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excessive saliva

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  • Posted By: sharri
  • March 15, 2009
  • 01:58 AM

:mad:I have been seeing doctors since June of 2008 for excessive saliva. This has been a medical merry go round that has become a blooming nightmare. Not one doctor has been able to diagnose this condition, yet they have prescribed medications that are dubious at best--can you believe thyroid medicine? Asked why as I had a test for thyroid and that organ functions quite well. Then, one doctor wanted to remove my saliva glands--that was really scary. Only one doctor--my dentist, actually took the time to observe just how much saliva I was secreting, and she was amazed. If anyone can help me I would appreciate it. The saliva, at times, has almost choked me. No, I don't have a problem swallowing normally--just the amount of saliva at any given time.

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  • thank you for responding. Can't be cell phone usage as I hate those contraptions and they aren't in my home--yes to cordless phone. No tumor--have had an MRI. Any other information would be appreciated.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi sharri,Excessive salivation can be a side effect of certain medications. Are you taking any routine meds?Regards,John
    JonMac 165 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi: Thanks for the reply--no I just take multi-vitamin and calcium supplement---everything from removal of saliva glands (that was a scary comment coming from a doctor) to lets try a thyroid medication. Out there, there is an answer to this.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Have you always had it like this or did it appear suddenly/gradually? The good thing is, it effectively prevents all dental disease. :)
    Felsen 510 Replies Flag this Response
  • I suppose it did occur slowly as I didn't notice it at first. Now it has reached embarrassing proportions. I have to walk around discreetly spitting--not very elegant on the golf course. This could also be a sign of poisoning! My doctor assures me that if I die, he willl request an autopsy--isn't that comforting? If someone is truly trying to poison me, they are certainly inept! Ha.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Your condition is called sialorrhea or ptyalism and can be from pesticide poisoning or use of Orajel,as two examples.You can Google this.Treatment consists of an anticholinergic drug such as atropine tablets or transdermal scopolamine.You don't seem to have any of the more serious symptoms,such as retropharyngeal abscess or tonsillitis or mono.
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies Flag this Response
  • Okay, please refer back to the onset of symptoms for me and describe when you first noticed the change. Tell me whether you have any other odd symptoms, regardless of whether you believe them to be related or not, and provide a general health status, ie allergies or sinus problems, dermatological changes, changes in voice, difficulty with balance or movement, clumsiness, muscle twitches or spasms or other complaints, including mood-related. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies Flag this Response
  • This first became noticeable in June of 2008. At first I didn't pay much attention. Then, it became a nuisance where I always had a tissue at hand to catch the saliva--progressed to now, where I actually carry a cup around to discharge into. I have NO health issues that I am aware of and GOD knows the doctors have issued every test you can think of. No health issues, no high blood pressure, no cholesterol issues, etc. I golf 18 holes of golf at least four times a week and function at the level of probably a forty year old--in fact, probably better. What scares me is that one of the possibilities discussed by one doctor was "brain tumor". Had an MRI and that was not the case--but now paranoia--was this scan read properly--so now I am beginning to react to all of this from a depressed mental state and this is not going well. I just want to function, go to Schlitterbahn, rafting and all that I usually do without this disgusting situation. Any and all help is so appreciated by me.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Just had a thought--yes I am having a voice change, but thought it was because of all the salliva that I do swallow--but ENT doctor didn't say anything when he checked my throat. Yes, my balance is a little off kilter, but I always move fast, so have tried to slow down my movements. I do not have allergies, nor has anything come into "my space" that is different in the past year. I have played the last year over and over in my mind to think of anything that could have triggered this.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • That's why I suggested atropine tablets or transdermal scopolamine.
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies Flag this Response
  • Yes, I will call my family doctor to see if he will prescrible Atropine. Of course. you know how this goes, he will say, you will have to come into the office before I can prescribe this med. So, insurance company is billed $125.00 for taking up less than 5 minutes of doc's time. Each time I see another doctor, first I have to go back to family doc to get a referral--this is how insurance works. Right now, I am seriously trying to get Baylor School of Medicine or the University of Texas to help me--so far no results-- guess they don't get a grant for this
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
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  • Okay, I need for you to explain in best detail the characteristics that have changed in your voice. Please be as specific as you can and tell me about about changes in the way your voice sounds to you or others that may have noticed and whether other factors such as articulation or sometimes feeling a bit thick-tongued may occur from time to time. I need for you to respond similarly where your balance is concerned and tell me what you specifically mean by "off kilter." Have you had any stumbling episodes or have you been tripping over things that seem to make you feel a bit clumsy? Regardless of how subtle the events have been, I need for you to describe them for me. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies Flag this Response
  • The voice change is a bit froggy sounding. By off kilter, I mean sometimes I feel like when I stand up, I totter--no, I haven't fallen. This is whole scenario is just weird. I am not pregnant, do not suffer from dementia, and am not being poisioned--supposedly these are all off shoots of too much saliva. I do appreciate your interest and hope a light bulb goes off for someone out there. What is your opinion of seeing an endroconologist?
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Now, I have a new development, saliva or some liquid is coming from my nose. Does anyone know what kind of a doctor I can see? Two ENT doctors have not been able to help.:confused:
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Have you tried the atropine tablets or transdermal scopolamine yet?
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies Flag this Response
  • My apologies. I failed to follow up on my own inquiry. The changes in voice and difficulties with balance as described would not be among the clinical signs that I was seeking to determine. I would agree with Richard Wayne that you need to have the symptoms treated while searching for a cause. Internal medicine might be a wise choice here to look further for causes that might be unrelated to the ENT realm. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies Flag this Response
  • That's why I suggested atropine tablets or tTransdermal scopolamine. The first ENT doctor put me o n the transdermal scopolamine patch and that didn't work--am seriously going to see if I can get the family doctor to write me a prescription for atropine to see if that will work.
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi: Thanks for the reply--no I just take multi-vitamin and calcium supplement---everything from removal of saliva glands (that was a scary comment coming from a doctor) to lets try a thyroid medication. Out there, there is an answer to this.Hi i attually came across this tread becuase i have the same problem(have trouble sleeping becuase of it), but my excesive salivation comes from taking my multivitamins(megamams & calcium tabelts) Have u tryed to stop taking the multis & calcium tablets? i found the problem went away after i stopped taking both for a week, maybe that would help u.On a side note i would love to know which vitamins cause it, i'm pretty sure it might be the calcium but is there anyway to find out?
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • [Now being sent to the University of Texas Research Center. More than a year an still no one knows what is wrong. Now checking paratoid artery. Went to the dentist to see if this could be a dental problem--panel x-rays taken--nothing visable. The dentist was actually amazed at the saliva or liquid coming from inside my mouth--amazing--I just can't be the only person who is suffering with this condition
    sharri 16 Replies Flag this Response
  • Excess saliva can also result from exposure to organochlorines such as insect sprays and other nerve-attacking chemicals. Have you had your home/yard sprayed or treated with an insecticide in the recent past?
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
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