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My joints are getting worse Please Help

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  • Posted By: Feelthy
  • February 19, 2008
  • 07:45 AM

I am a twenty year old white male, and I've had the same problem since for a lot of my life, but the pains didn't happen often until a few years ago. I know that I have some kind of joint and bone disease. I actually have symptoms of osteoporosis, but I'm supposed to be way too young for that. I have almost every symptom of hyperthyroidism but tested negative for it twice.
The symptoms I have include include thin nails and a light bone density. Sluggishness, insomnia, allergies, frequent urination, excessive thirst, weight loss or in my case weighing the same for the last four years (often accompanied by a ravenous appetite), anxiety, intolerance to heat (for me it's an intolerence to chill, my hands and feet get painfully cold in seconds and take a long time to warm up during the winter,) fatigue, weakness, hyperactivity, irritability, apathy, depression, diarrhea, and palpitations (I get a lot of palpitations in the back of my head, but plenty in my chest, sometimes so violent that my head will literately ***k when I lie down. Making it impossible to fall asleep.)
Neurological symptoms are tremor, chorea, and myopathy. Also with the myopathy in mind, it's difficult for me to sustain muscle growth. I'm pretty strong I guess, but not like I should especially with the light bone density leaving me to often feel imasculated. I used to work out all the time for two years or so and I never got the full results I should have. My muscles never became solid and never have been my whole life where as my friends doing the same routine did attain the right results.
Other symptoms I have that are not the same as hyperthyroidism are one my bones randomly hurt on their own with no explaination. Sometimes a single finger, sometimes my forearm, usually the upper body. To make it clearer how they hurt, I usually compare it to the day after you've accidently bashed your shin into something. The way the entire bone seems to be sore, but this is random without putting any stress on them. My joints are getting worse everyday too. I can't even do push ups anymore because it hursts my wrist so badly. I haven't injured them in the past either. I tried the excersise where you support your body in the air by your forearms and bend your legs up to work you abs for the first time in a couple of years for sure and everytime I fully raised my legs the joints in my hips would pop. I only did it a few times before it worried me, but I know it's just as bad today. Also when I do manage a push up, more than half the time a nerve or something rolls over my elbow, right by the funny bone. My jaw is ****ed up on one side, it too will pop if I don't eat a certain way and that one started last year. I don't heal as fast as any of my friends either. My bruises and scabs seem to last for ever, and when I got punched in the ribs once, the pain didn't go away for nearly a month. I was also diagnosed with GERD last year, and I can't help but think that the reflux is related to the tremors and neurological symptoms.
Hyperthyroidism made sense to me too, you know what I mean? It just fit, like my body isn't getting the correct nutrition and vitamin deposits it should be because my body metabolizes too fast. Too be honest I still feel like that's what's wrong some how. My ex told me too get tested for lupas because her friend who is positive for it has similar symptoms. My doctor said I don't have inflammation, so it can't be. I don't know what's wrong with me or how to fix it, but my joints are getting worse and I'm sick of the tremors and feeling like a ****y. All I want is to be healthy. Please give me as much info as you can. Thanks guys.

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  • Alot of your symptoms sound like thyriod. Perhaps your dr isn't giving you the right tests for it? Did a specialist do the tests?The thirst and urination symptoms could be related to diabetes. Has that been ruled out?Your a bit young to be having osteoporosis problems. Have you been tested for vitamin and mineral deficencies/ absorption problems? Are you eating a good diet? Have you been to an ortho and /or Neuro? Vit D & calcium may help with the bones.Have you been tested for infections, like mono/EBV, bartonella, babseia, borriella, cpn, lyme etc? Are you on any meds, like antidepressants? Sometimes meds can have side effects and a person dosen't realize a new symptom , is a side effect.Sorry I can't be of more help, just tossing some different ideas out there. Hope you can feel better soon.~~Dee
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • February 19, 2008
    • 09:14 AM
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  • Look up Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies
    • February 19, 2008
    • 10:53 AM
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  • I am a twenty year old white male, and I've had the same problem since for a lot of my life, but the pains didn't happen often until a few years ago. I know that I have some kind of joint and bone disease. I actually have symptoms of osteoporosis, but I'm supposed to be way too young for that. I have almost every symptom of hyperthyroidism but tested negative for it twice. The symptoms I have include include thin nails and a light bone density. Sluggishness, insomnia, allergies, frequent urination, excessive thirst, weight loss or in my case weighing the same for the last four years (often accompanied by a ravenous appetite), anxiety, intolerance to heat (for me it's an intolerence to chill, my hands and feet get painfully cold in seconds and take a long time to warm up during the winter,) fatigue, weakness, hyperactivity, irritability, apathy, depression, diarrhea, and palpitations (I get a lot of palpitations in the back of my head, but plenty in my chest, sometimes so violent that my head will literately ***k when I lie down. Making it impossible to fall asleep.)Neurological symptoms are tremor, chorea, and myopathy. Also with the myopathy in mind, it's difficult for me to sustain muscle growth. I'm pretty strong I guess, but not like I should especially with the light bone density leaving me to often feel imasculated. I used to work out all the time for two years or so and I never got the full results I should have. My muscles never became solid and never have been my whole life where as my friends doing the same routine did attain the right results. Other symptoms I have that are not the same as hyperthyroidism are one my bones randomly hurt on their own with no explaination. Sometimes a single finger, sometimes my forearm, usually the upper body. To make it clearer how they hurt, I usually compare it to the day after you've accidently bashed your shin into something. The way the entire bone seems to be sore, but this is random without putting any stress on them. My joints are getting worse everyday too. I can't even do push ups anymore because it hursts my wrist so badly. I haven't injured them in the past either. I tried the excersise where you support your body in the air by your forearms and bend your legs up to work you abs for the first time in a couple of years for sure and everytime I fully raised my legs the joints in my hips would pop. I only did it a few times before it worried me, but I know it's just as bad today. Also when I do manage a push up, more than half the time a nerve or something rolls over my elbow, right by the funny bone. My jaw is ****ed up on one side, it too will pop if I don't eat a certain way and that one started last year. I don't heal as fast as any of my friends either. My bruises and scabs seem to last for ever, and when I got punched in the ribs once, the pain didn't go away for nearly a month. I was also diagnosed with GERD last year, and I can't help but think that the reflux is related to the tremors and neurological symptoms. Hyperthyroidism made sense to me too, you know what I mean? It just fit, like my body isn't getting the correct nutrition and vitamin deposits it should be because my body metabolizes too fast. Too be honest I still feel like that's what's wrong some how. My ex told me too get tested for lupas because her friend who is positive for it has similar symptoms. My doctor said I don't have inflammation, so it can't be. I don't know what's wrong with me or how to fix it, but my joints are getting worse and I'm sick of the tremors and feeling like a ****y. All I want is to be healthy. Please give me as much info as you can. Thanks guys. Have you had genetic testing done? It sounds like you may have a genetic condition since you have had this problem for such a long time. DOM
    acuann 3,080 Replies
    • February 19, 2008
    • 03:21 PM
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  • I will ask the doctor about eds on my next visit, but I doubt that's my condition, because my skin isn't near as sensitive as those with the disease. I'll be sure to cover every aspect though. After doing more research I think it might be my gonads. Has any one had hypogonadism, that may compare their sypmtoms? Or any more ideas, please.
    Feelthy 25 Replies
    • February 19, 2008
    • 05:37 PM
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  • Perhaps look into metabolic diseases... the thin nails, allergies etc can be caused by some genetic metabolic diseases. I am a twenty year old white male, and I've had the same problem since for a lot of my life, but the pains didn't happen often until a few years ago. I know that I have some kind of joint and bone disease. I actually have symptoms of osteoporosis, but I'm supposed to be way too young for that. I have almost every symptom of hyperthyroidism but tested negative for it twice. The symptoms I have include include thin nails and a light bone density. Sluggishness, insomnia, allergies, frequent urination, excessive thirst, weight loss or in my case weighing the same for the last four years (often accompanied by a ravenous appetite), anxiety, intolerance to heat (for me it's an intolerence to chill, my hands and feet get painfully cold in seconds and take a long time to warm up during the winter,) fatigue, weakness, hyperactivity, irritability, apathy, depression, diarrhea, and palpitations (I get a lot of palpitations in the back of my head, but plenty in my chest, sometimes so violent that my head will literately ***k when I lie down. Making it impossible to fall asleep.)Neurological symptoms are tremor, chorea, and myopathy. Also with the myopathy in mind, it's difficult for me to sustain muscle growth. I'm pretty strong I guess, but not like I should especially with the light bone density leaving me to often feel imasculated. I used to work out all the time for two years or so and I never got the full results I should have. My muscles never became solid and never have been my whole life where as my friends doing the same routine did attain the right results. Other symptoms I have that are not the same as hyperthyroidism are one my bones randomly hurt on their own with no explaination. Sometimes a single finger, sometimes my forearm, usually the upper body. To make it clearer how they hurt, I usually compare it to the day after you've accidently bashed your shin into something. The way the entire bone seems to be sore, but this is random without putting any stress on them. My joints are getting worse everyday too. I can't even do push ups anymore because it hursts my wrist so badly. I haven't injured them in the past either. I tried the excersise where you support your body in the air by your forearms and bend your legs up to work you abs for the first time in a couple of years for sure and everytime I fully raised my legs the joints in my hips would pop. I only did it a few times before it worried me, but I know it's just as bad today. Also when I do manage a push up, more than half the time a nerve or something rolls over my elbow, right by the funny bone. My jaw is ****ed up on one side, it too will pop if I don't eat a certain way and that one started last year. I don't heal as fast as any of my friends either. My bruises and scabs seem to last for ever, and when I got punched in the ribs once, the pain didn't go away for nearly a month. I was also diagnosed with GERD last year, and I can't help but think that the reflux is related to the tremors and neurological symptoms. Hyperthyroidism made sense to me too, you know what I mean? It just fit, like my body isn't getting the correct nutrition and vitamin deposits it should be because my body metabolizes too fast. Too be honest I still feel like that's what's wrong some how. My ex told me too get tested for lupas because her friend who is positive for it has similar symptoms. My doctor said I don't have inflammation, so it can't be. I don't know what's wrong with me or how to fix it, but my joints are getting worse and I'm sick of the tremors and feeling like a ****y. All I want is to be healthy. Please give me as much info as you can. Thanks guys.
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • February 19, 2008
    • 11:34 PM
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  • Blaze, I couldn't tell from reading beause you said something about getting rid of 100% if I addressed all symptoms and also you used present tense words like "have", but did you ever get rid of your lyme disease? Because after reading about it there were at least 5 or more symptoms I didn't even think of; I have that were lyme related. So that's another possiblility. As far as the ES, it's really hard for me to form an opinion. I don't feel any different around machines or power lines. However, I know that I really ****ed my brain up over a year ago. I just didn't mention it because it's unrelated to my metabolism quarrel. I actually grew allergic to weed, but I kept smoking it and ignored all of the signs. One day I had the most extremely painful, strange, trippy, very unique, grinding sensations inside my head. I was all delerious and I could see inside of my head with my eyes closed with these bloody, colorful, rotating saw blade like visions. As this was happening I ran a horrible fever, as I could melt ice on my head in seconds. Which I did continuously. I remember saying "I need to go to the hospital." Over and over, but I didn't because I didn't want to go high. When the fever and worst pain in my life ended it felt like fluid was oozing from somewhere inside my ears. Ever since that day I've had equalibrium problems, as well as ear and nerve problems. I think that I blew a fuse or cross conjumbled my natural wiring. ES mentions something like this too. a natural sensitivity, similar to other idiopathic or allergic which is not typical of the general population.and sensitisation by some incident, which has the capability of damaging the bioelectrochemical communication within the body."Some incident"..? :cool: Eh.. eh?Yeah, well I'm pretty sure that even though I felt this had no real relevence to this other condition that the fact I became allergic to pot over time is definitely connected to my mystery disease.
    Feelthy 25 Replies
    • February 20, 2008
    • 03:22 AM
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  • Today my right wrist is in a lot of pain, as well as my left knee and for absolutely no reason. I am sure that my joints are only going to get worse, I'm really worried.
    Feelthy 25 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 00:59 AM
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  • Today my right wrist is in a lot of pain, as well as my left knee and for absolutely no reason. I am sure that my joints are only going to get worse, I'm really worried. What is your diet like? What do you eat and drink on a daily basis? What are your favorite foods? Do you take any medications or supplements? DOM
    acuann 3,080 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 01:20 AM
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  • I eat pretty healthy. I'm a good boy, I enjoy eating my greens too. I try to a fair piece of the pyramid down every day along with some milk. I drink plenty of fludids daily, but I seem to piss them out as they go in. The only medecine that I take is prilosec for my GERD. Which I guess there's a study that proton pump inhibitors might cause hypogonasm which is one reason I asked if anybody had the disorder and if they shared some of my symptoms.
    Feelthy 25 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 03:34 AM
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  • How long have you been taking the prilosec? This drug does have quite a few side effects, and rare ones include muscle weakness and elevated liver enzyme levels. If you started taking the prilosec a few months before your symptoms developed, then I would highly suspect it could be causing some if not all of your symptoms. Discontinuing for a month or two may be helpful and see how you feel. Visit www.rxlist.com for a complete list of side effects to prilosec. Slippery elm is good for GERD. You mention "fluids" - does this include "energy" drinks like sobe or red bull? How much soda do you drink on a daily basis if at all? Do you drink pure water? What about caffeine? DOM
    acuann 3,080 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 05:02 AM
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  • I can't really afford to stop taking the prilosec. I have a bad case of erosive esophagitis and I am really sick of not being able to do ****. I can't drink alchahol, energy drinks, soda, or anything higly caffinated. I can't chew gum, eat certain candies, or inhale smoke of any sort. So that probably answers your other concerns. I've been taking prilosec for a long time too now. I don't think the side effects would take this long to manifest, but then again joints I imagine take a while to break down as they take even longer to build up.
    Feelthy 25 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 06:27 AM
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  • I understand your concern, but just want to point out there are other ways to treat GERD that may be just as effective as the prilosec. And, yes, you can develop symptoms over time - it is cumulative. Acupuncture and NAET may really make a difference...please look into these othere worthwhile modalities. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3,080 Replies
    • February 21, 2008
    • 02:49 PM
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  • Have you ever been tested for celiac disease/gluten intolerance?
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