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Severe Arm Pain in Both Arms

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  • Posted By: robinson1011
  • February 2, 2007
  • 04:36 PM

I am a 41 years old and about 7 years ago I started having pain in my left bicept that you would radiate down my entire arm. The pain would come and go and over a period of about a year it became constant. After the first year I started having pain in my right arm and it also is constant. The pain is a throbbing, aching, deep muscle pain that radiates down the arm. I have been to many doctors and even have been to the Mayo Clinic trying to get answers on what the cause to this could possibly be. I have had the following surgeries: They rerouted the Ulnar Nerve in my left arm that didn't relieve any pain. I traveled to Florida to have Surgery on my spine where they releived pressure in the c4, c5 are of the spinal cord. This also did nothing to relive any of the pain. I recently had a Spinal stimulator put in my lower back with the stimilation going to each one of my arms. This has helped some but the pain is still overwhelming. I have been on many medications, morphine, oxycotin and many more hard narcotic drugs and the only drug that seems to have any affect is Ultram. It dulls the pain in my arms a little and with the spinal stimulator it makes life at least bearable. I believe we have tried everything and the Doctors don't know what else to do. Does anybody have any thoughts on what this could be?

I would appreciate your input..

Robinson:mad:

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  • Wow- how did you get thru so many procedures. Ouuch! Sorry about that :(.Hmm you should have tried acupuncture and changing your diet.I am having pains that I can connect to my diet. Every time I eat red meat- I started to have pains. I have been in bed for weeks at a time.I was wondering about your blood type. I am following the blood type diet, I think that can shed some light on your problem.Pains and aches are immune responses, unless you had an accident.*Avoid milk, sugar, wheat, red meat, all processed foods.*Use the sauna if it is not adversed for your condition or with your medication.*Try to talk to your doctors about how to stop those meds, as the load on your liver, is only going to make you sicker.Take Care.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • February 2, 2007
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  • Thanks for your response. I haved tried Accupuncuture and I also tried CUPPING. Cupping is a very painful procedure that causes severe bruseing. I don't currently know my Blood Type but I will find this out. I have never heard of a Blood Type Diet before. I am currently running 3 miles per day and trying to stay very active during the day. I have to take meds so I can sleep through the night otherwise the pains keeps me up. I have been put on complete disability(Social Security) becuase they cannot figure out how to better relive the pain. The best thing that I have found is to try an keep a positive attitude and just put a smile on your face even though you don't feel like it. Thanks
    robinson1011 6 Replies
    • February 2, 2007
    • 08:35 PM
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  • Thanks for your response. I haved tried Accupuncuture and I also tried CUPPING. Cupping is a very painful procedure that causes severe bruseing. I don't currently know my Blood Type but I will find this out. I have never heard of a Blood Type Diet before. I am currently running 3 miles per day and trying to stay very active during the day. I have to take meds so I can sleep through the night otherwise the pains keeps me up. I have been put on complete disability(Social Security) becuase they cannot figure out how to better relive the pain. The best thing that I have found is to try an keep a positive attitude and just put a smile on your face even though you don't feel like it. ThanksLaughing cure all the way! I often watch Seinfeld as a therapy.Yeah- I don't know if cupping is for everyone- also, there are different types of acupuncture. Acupuncture alone won't help unless you find out what are the drastic changes that you need to undertake.Please read the book "Never Be Sick Again" by Raymond Francis- he helps people in disability to regain their lives. His website is beyondhealth.com, if you sign up by giving your email, you can read for free some of the articles which are part of the book.I am buying 3 of those books today, for my family.Also try Mercola.com and Walter Lasthttp://users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/index.htmlIf you are still eating aspartame, wheat, more than 35 grams of protein a day, dairy, genetically modified food, fruit sprayed with pesticide, taking drugs, and eating chemical additive- consider reading the book.By the way- I would recommend you getting the book for your blood type, but you can start using the dadamo.com website and see what's all about.Depending of your blood antigen, your body will react differently to certain foods. It is about "dietary lectins".There is a lot of generalization on the book but it will help you very much to figure out what you want to eat after you stop eating rice, pasta, pizza, soda, cakes,potato chips, etc.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • February 2, 2007
    • 09:05 PM
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  • I dont think i would be recommending the blood type diet, which is universally recognized by dieticians as having no factual background.
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  • Did you ever rec' a "professional" reply? I'm curious~after reading your post, I have almost the exact same situation. This just started happening over the last year~and it seems to be tied to my work outs~weight lifting. I'm not a body builder, just someone who wants to stay toned, and it's very painful now. I notice that if I go a while w/o working out, there's no pain, then when I do have a session, a day later I'm in agony.....The pain radiates from the elbow, down to the hand and it's just as you typed~at times throbbing and deep tissue, in the joints as well. I looked up fibromyalgia and it's similar~just not all the symptoms.....
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  • :) Did you ever rec' a "professional" reply? I'm curious~after reading your post, I have almost the exact same situation. This just started happening over the last year~and it seems to be tied to my work outs~weight lifting. I'm not a body builder, just someone who wants to stay toned, and it's very painful now. I notice that if I go a while w/o working out, there's no pain, then when I do have a session, a day later I'm in agony.....The pain radiates from the elbow, down to the hand and it's just as you typed~at times throbbing and deep tissue, in the joints as well. I looked up fibromyalgia and it's similar~just not all the symptoms..... Hi, what do you mean by a professional reply. The only feed back that I received is what you see on the posts. I am 5"11, 170 pounds. I do not lift weights and never have. My pain started out intermittently in my left arm and over the period of a year or so it became a constant pain and then started in my right arm and it also became constant. I have seen some of the best doctors in the world at the Mayo Clinic and they cannot figure out what is causing the pain. I have had a spinal stimualtor impalnted in my lower back which helps MASK the pain a little but the pain still never goes away. I have learned to just deal with it. I am not currently seeing any Doctors except my normal pain management doctor. The only pain pill that seems to help any at all is a a drug called "Tramadol". It is not a narcotic but for some reason it seems to help with the pain when the narcotics didn't do anything at all. I was on a Drug called Methadone witch helped with the pain but I was so druged up I couldn't function so I stopped taking it. Without it I would not be able to make it through one day. If I were you I would do some research on "Thoracic Outlet Syndrome" Thanks for your response.robinson
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  • Any luck yet with your pain? I am in the same situation right now but have other symptoms too. I have been searching the site here and I think (hope) I found my problem it's called Central Pain Syndrome. I have the burning, sharp shooting pain, tingling, numbness, loss of strenght, tender to touch and move, the pain is now shooting down my back. I have already had 2 surgerys my one shoulder and my neck was fused and the pain keeps getting worse. The hard thing is that I am only in my late 20's. If I do have CPS there is no cure. Do you have any of those symptoms? Do you remember ever hurting your self
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • Any luck yet with your pain? I am in the same situation right now but have other symptoms too. I have been searching the site here and I think (hope) I found my problem it's called Central Pain Syndrome. I have the burning, sharp shooting pain, tingling, numbness, loss of strenght, tender to touch and move, the pain is now shooting down my back. I have already had 2 surgerys my one shoulder and my neck was fused and the pain keeps getting worse. The hard thing is that I am only in my late 20's. If I do have CPS there is no cure. Do you have any of those symptoms? Do you remember ever hurting your self After I had the spinal stimulator implanted last June I have more or less decided that I will just have to live with the pain. I am tired of going to Doctor after Doctor with no answer as to what my pain is caused from. I have been on Diasabilty for over 4 years now and I am getting ready to try and go back to work and just tuff it out. When my pain started several years ago I was doing a bunch of Jet Skiing at the time. I don't know if that had any thing to do with my problem or not. I have never heard of CPS but I will definitly look it up. If you have any other luck with Doctors please send me an E-mail.
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  • Hey, you no what don't give up! There's help some where.. I refuse to live this way so somethings has to be done. Have they looked at your neck and or your upper back? Normally when you have pain in your arms it's coming from one of those. The lower back effects your legs. Hope fully I will have my answers soon when I go to the doctor. Have you seen a Neurologist?
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  • 'My pain started out intermittently in my left arm and over the period of a year or so it became a constant pain and then started in my right arm and it also became constant'Hi,I think we are in a very similar position - the course of my chronic pain development is EXACTLY that described above - I've now been suffering from this condition for 3 years (1 year in its full blown both arms painful state). My pain migrates between joints and muscles - different bits of my arm hurt at different times. There is no respite from the pain, nor is it activity related.I too have not been able to get a diagnosis - the docs draw blanks and look baffled. I had a neurological exam, and my muscles and nerves and Brachial Plexus are all NORMAL.Alongside this, I suffer from autoimmune Hypothyroidism and Raynaud's (your hands and fingers tingle and go white / red in the cold, and get cold too easily). This is more common than people know and can cause joint pains, but I'm not sure it's the whole explanation for my condition.I take Thyroxine for the above (not enough in my opinion), and Gabapentin and Amytryptyline together for the pain. These meds make life bearable but do not remove the pain. Hypersensitivity of my arms to touch remains a major problem - people tap my shoulder and this sets off pain cascades. I can sleep. Recently I have also developed urinary retention, so who knows where that fits in.I currently can't write for more than a few minutes at a time. I wear splints (thermoskin) in order to be able to type - this system I worked out for myself, I've never been offered any physio / occupational health advice.I too tried acupuncture (needles not cupping). I gave it 3 months. It did not control the pain - it was after this that I was forced to try Gabapentin (the amount of paracetamol / iburprofen I was taking was far too high in my opinion, and they didn't really help...).At the moment I try and stay active (biking mostly, with the aid of wrist guards designed for snowboarders :) ), and keep pushing for an answer. I think it's time I was referred to a rheumatologist. I eat fairly healthily.On a practical note - has anyone tried Lyrica for this type of pain? Also called Pre-Gablin, it's the updated version of gabapentin. I'm trying to get up the courage to ask the doc about it...I live in Britain. Best wishes to you, keep up the daily fight.
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  • Did you ever rec' a "professional" reply? I'm curious~after reading your post, I have almost the exact same situation. This just started happening over the last year~and it seems to be tied to my work outs~weight lifting. I'm not a body builder, just someone who wants to stay toned, and it's very painful now. I notice that if I go a while w/o working out, there's no pain, then when I do have a session, a day later I'm in agony.....The pain radiates from the elbow, down to the hand and it's just as you typed~at times throbbing and deep tissue, in the joints as well. I looked up fibromyalgia and it's similar~just not all the symptoms.....I have severe arm pain , no sleep every 45 min up , I cry and reposition nothing helps recently i stopped drinking alcohol treating my body right , the pain went away , then came back 6 mo later, my dr. told me after expensive testing , i have a pinched nerve. Without insurance , I guess I am just going to have to live with it , I can afford bottle of soma (which take only the edge off) . If you have insurance ask to see a sports medicine specialist , they are great with pinched nerves and rehabilitation . good luck I know it hurts bad .. People think you are just complaining a lot -- I'd rather have all my children again.
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  • There r times i can not move because the pain in my arms hurt so bad i cry and pray that the pain will go away. I have not been to the docotor because it's not all the time it comes and goes .Has been happening since i turned 44yrs old i believed it had to do with old age
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • October 22, 2007
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  • I have been reading all the post and I was wondering if anyone could help me. For about 4 months now I have had numbness and tingling in my arms,hands, legs, and feet. For the past month I have been waking up about 4 times a night because both of my arms are so numb that I cant even lift them. I have to role on them to get it so I can move them and then shake my arms until it goes away. I have gone to the doctors numerous times and they say they cant find anything wrong with me. My mother has a thyroid problem so I get tested. About a year ago I got tested and they said my levels didnt show I had a thyroid problem but they were going to put me on meds anyway because I had a lot of symptoms. Im wondering if I should be taking this medication and if this numbness is associated to a thyroid problem or could it be something else? I would appreciate input. I am getting very frustrated because I know something is not right.kclynn
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    • February 8, 2008
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  • i have same problem 5 years ago they said c-4 c-5 were herniated i had surgery bone fusion metal plate the works.did not help a bit .year after year the pain got so bad now today i have had enough.i did alot of research on internet and doctors.it can be these 1-disc herniation 2-spinal stenosis means narrowing of spinal canal 3-rotator cuff tear complete or partial 4-tendinidus.for me i am getting a full spinal mri to get to the bottom of this. hope this helps.i forgot to say frozen shoulder. my arm pain and hand numbness are extreme
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  • Hey, you no what don't give up! There's help some where.. I refuse to live this way so somethings has to be done. Have they looked at your neck and or your upper back? Normally when you have pain in your arms it's coming from one of those. The lower back effects your legs. Hope fully I will have my answers soon when I go to the doctor. Have you seen a Neurologist? Hey - I am back out on Disability and getting ready to head to the Cleveland Clinic to spend a week seeing the Doctors their. The pain in my Arms is Still extremely painful, but I have now started having problems in my lower back. I was on a Business trip and ended up having to call a ambulance to come and get me out of my Hotel Room. I was sitting in a meeting all day and then after work I went back to my Hotel Room and my left leg started throbbing and I got to the point where I couldn't move with Screaming out in Pain. The Hospital couldn't do anything but give e Steroids and Morphine because of my Spinal Stimulator they couldn't do a MRI...I will let you know how things go.
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  • Im from mississauga Canada its basically Toronto. My mom is going to be 42 in August and she has been going down the path that some of you have described. In june 2007 my mom started feeling pain in her right arm, then In July she went on workers compensation because she couldnt take the pain. She then went back and they only gave her work for the right arm, she works in a factory on an assembly line. Then just recently around the 22nd of March she felt the same pain her left hand. During this whole time she has been trying acupuncture and everything else that was covered under her benefits or that was paid for by healthcare. Then just last week around the 7th of April of 2008 she first felt the pain in her left leg. As im writing this right now she has skipped work and stayed home all day and the pain is insane it feels like its rubbing off on me. She tells me that her left arm feels like its falling off. Her left leg hurts just to walk or stand on. The pain is in spots like a couple of you have described and moves through out. Her family doctor has no clue and on may 9th she is going to Sunnybrook which is a health science center she will be in the Shoulder/elbow specialty program at the Holland Orthopaedic & Arthiritic Centre. She is convinced that they will be able to find out whats wrong and heel her, my family is from Bosnia in Europe, I try to explain to her that after reading a couple of your own stories that doctors dont cure everything and that because she is suffering from the exact same symptoms in a similar order and during a similar time period that she to will likely have to deal with it for the rest of her life. Im just trying to be realistic and I know its causing even more pain but I dont want her to go over there with her hopes all high and then being disapointed. I dont know what else to say ill try and keep everyone updated after may 9th and I hope you guys continue posting updates on ur situation.
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  • Any luck yet with your pain? I am in the same situation right now but have other symptoms too. I have been searching the site here and I think (hope) I found my problem it's called Central Pain Syndrome. I have the burning, sharp shooting pain, tingling, numbness, loss of strenght, tender to touch and move, the pain is now shooting down my back. I have already had 2 surgerys my one shoulder and my neck was fused and the pain keeps getting worse. The hard thing is that I am only in my late 20's. If I do have CPS there is no cure. Do you have any of those symptoms? Do you remember ever hurting your self I wanted to give you an update. They are running some Genetics test on me and I should have the results in a couple of weeks. What the Doctor is is checking for is CMT Disease (Charcot-Marie-Tooth Disease). It is a rare Genetic nerve Disorder that causes Leg and arm pain.
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  • i know how you guys feel. i am a carpenter and have been dealing with this pain for a long time. i was very strong, weigh 220 lbs 5' 10". could do or lift anything. now i have trouble making it to lunch before the pain sets in. when it does, i can't lift a board. doc told me it's carpal tunnel, i think it's tendinitis cause i have no problems with my hands. one thing is for sure, when i get it bad, i'd rather cut my arms off and be done with it!
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    • November 7, 2008
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  • I find it rather disheartening that so far no one has really found out what the cause is. Oct 2008, I started to have some pains in my arms. I simply tossed a pencil to an individual and was on the floor in severe pain. I have bumped into door jams and suffer almost pass out strength pain for ten minutes before it would subside. I am lucky to make the 12 mile drive to work. If I had to go 13 miles, I would have to pull over and wait for the pain to subside, that could be because I drive on a gravel/dirt road to work. I seem to be able to manage 25 miles on asphalt.Pain mostly started after a very bad diagnosis of a simple spider bite, and doctors ignoring the fact I was allergic to any of those anti-drugs, anti-biotics, anti-inflamatories, and anti-virals. Thats because of a bad bout of IBS about 10 years ago. Anyway bad diagnosis, led to a shot of penicillin, which landed me in the E.R. with severe de-hydration, a shot of morphone to still the stomach craamps, and a bag of fluids, and then cause of swelling in my leg, all followed up with a shot of Anti-inflamatory, and some Anti viral meds for the spider bite. 12 hours later, once again, back to the E.R. for re-hydration.Treatment since Oct 2008.A Sports Injury Specialist, tried physical theropy,-no help, just made it worse.Then a Nutritionist, Gave me lots of supplements, and armour thyroid pills. Kept increasing pills to what I thought was rediculious amount. No help at all.Acupuncturist, did help me gain back a little bit of mobility in my arm, but pain still there, and no real help for the pain.Begged a Neurologist to see me, she agreed, so far not a lot of help, just rulling things out, and trying to narrow it down. Also still seeing regular doctor, she gave me Gabapentin, it did help with the pain by decreesing it about 15 percent, also taking some percocet for pain but does not help pain, just let me sleep for about 4 hours. She also thinks it that I might have Hashimoto's thyroid desiese(sp), but is unsure since I do not have any leg pain, so she has me on the waiting list for the endocrologist, have to wait til september, only four of them in the whole state of Alaska. She did take me off of the armor thyroid med, and put me on a different med for it. Neurologist also has me on flexeril, that also helps with the sleep, and some of the throbbing pain, but not enough. The pain is generly between the elbow and the shoulder, not involving either of those two things, just severe muscle or nerve pain in the area between those two. Both sides. It throbs, burns, twitches,(some times electrical twitches like little shocks through the muscle),and just plain assed aches.I hope one of us finds something to help. Will keep you posted on the EMG process tomarrow, to see if the nerves are fried.
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  • From:Alaska Pain2 GuestI did get the EMG done, to see if the nerves were fried. No fired nerves, but did learn that I have carpal tunnel syndrome in both wrist. I have never experienced any pain in either wrist, so I was pretty sure this was not the cause of the pain.The good news now. My right arm is back to about 85% of normal, and left arm is about 65%. A heck of a lot better.What has helped:I believe that my steady increase intake of water has helped a whole lot. I am up to what a normal healthy person should be drinking, 80 ounces a day. How do I drink this much water in a day, it was really not that difficult once I got into a good habit. In the morning before I even have my first cup of coffee I drink 10oz's, then while I am drinking my first cup of morning coffee I finish up the next 10oz's. I only take one cup of coffee with me to me work, I gave up soda's of all kinds about 10 years ago, so I drink my next 30-40 ounces at work. I constantly just sip on my water at work, and on the drive home I finish up the last of my water 40 ounces, if I have any left, the reason being is because when I get home I really really want a cup of coffee. After that cup of home coffee I fill up my 20 oz bottle with water, and sip on it through the evening and dinner, generaly by the end of dinner I am done with my water. Why so much water? I am a somewhat off and on again fan of Dr. OZ. He's the doc that Oprah has on all the time. He mentioned that a Healthy Adult needs 2 ounces of water for every 10 pounds of weight they have. A lot of doctors and nurses will say that coffee and tea, and some will even say that sodas count toward your water needs, if they do, my suggestion is to find a different doctor. So for a person of 160 pounds that would be about 80 ounces. One thing the neurologist did for me, other than taking a heck of a lot of my money, is prescribe vitamin B12 and folic acid tabs for me. It did take a bit of time for me to get used to giving myself B12 shots in the stomach, but after the 3rd shot it really was no big deal. I feel that the B12 has also helped with my problem. B12 is the vitamin that helps the bodies absorbtion of needed vitamins and minerals, I was pretty low in B12 when she did the test. They have really helped with the lathargic feelings and lack of energy that I had because of sleep depravation from the pain. I am at the point I only need to give my self a monthly shot now, so it really is not bad at all. She also prescribe and told me to take folic acid once a day.The third thing that has helped a lot is, what I feel is a correct diagnosis of the root cause of my pain, and that is Hasimotos Disease. That is a thyroid related problem, many doctors have a tendency to ignore that one, because one of the primary means of reconizing the disease is nerve pain in both the arms and the legs. My doctor decided to treat me for Hasimotos. I take Levothyroxin once a day for it, currently at 70mcg. Levothyroxin is the generic form of synthroid.One week after starting Levothyroxin, my arms started on the road to recovery. The fourth thing that helped is I stopped all of the other stuff, the gabapentin, symbalta, and only on a very rare occassion do I need a percocet to help me sleep.Back to what most people do not want to hear, the water. You need water to live. Your urine should be almost clear, not dark yellow, not root beer colored, not lemon color, and not the pale yellow most of us are used to seeing. If your urine is very dark, then you are dehydrated. Coffee and beer and soda, are diuretics and will cause you to pee, but your body does not use the fluid from those sources very well. Find a friend with very very good well water and drink drink drink good water. I am only on my third month of increased water intake, and decrease of coffee intake. On average over the last 20 years I end up in the E.R. 4 times a year for re-hydration, you would think a doctor in all that time would have told me something as simple as drink more water. It took 6 months of research on the part of my wife, before it clicked in her mind and then mine, that I needed more water! That all of my trips to the ER were because of dehydration, and it was happening to me, and even I did not think of drinking more water. It has been weeks now since I last peed a brownish color, now almost every time it is just a very lightly tinted yellow or clear. In closing, get your thyroid checked out, find a doctor or Nurse Practioner that will listen to you, I mean really listen. One thing with all these trips to different doctors and specialist I have learned is that the Health Crisis in America could be solved by simply teaching Doctors and medical proffessional how to actively listen to what the patient is telling them. The medical people just do not want to listen, if you have to force them and demand that your thyroid be checked do so. No one should have to suffer the kind of pain that we have been suffering. Get your B-Vitamin levels checked, with my insurance which is not that great I only have to pay about 10 dollers for the needle and the vitamin. It is one of the things from a pharmacy that a doctor has prescribed that has actually helped. While you are getting your B Levels checked also have them check you Vitamin D levels. And last but definately not last DRINK WATER.I hope this helps some of you.
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