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Craving beef and other strange symptoms

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  • Posted By: halal37
  • September 27, 2008
  • 08:31 PM

I am really frustrated. I am fed up with doctors dismissing my symptoms and assuming that whatever is wrong is psychological. I know there is something physically wrong with me and I feel terrible. I really need some answers.

Since childhood I have always been hungry and thirsty. I noticed as a child I drank a lot more water then my mom and was prone to dehydration. I also discovered carbohydrates seemed to make me hungrier. As I have aged these two problems have just gotten worse. I now always have water next to my bed at night because I know I am likely to wake up thirsty several times during the night. It also isn’t unusual to wake up in the middle of the night starving.

I am not positive but I am suspicious a spiritual fast I went on in 2001 may have led to my new and worsening symptoms. Since then I have developed:

Daily Migraines (Had sinus surgery in 2006. Before surgery prescription migraine drugs helped, but after the surgery they had no affect).

Craving for beef (at first the craving only occurred during my period. The craving was severe and nothing would fill me up until I got a burger. After a few months of this problem I discovered as long as I eat beef a few times a month I would not crave beef during my period. I will say often when I feel ill or ravenous, a hamburger makes me feel physically better). P.S. I do not like the taste of beef and would never eat it if my body didn’t demand it. I use to be a vegetarian, but was forced to start eating animal protein after a few years.

I have to really watch my carbohydrate intake. It doesn’t take much to make me feel sick. Some days I can handle more carbs then other days, but when I am going through a sensitive period it doesn’t take many carbs to make me nauseous and jittery. I can feel fine and then after eating (especially carbs) immediately start feeling sleepy and need a nap.

A few years ago I discovered eating food helped me feel better when I start feeling nauseous. I can be vomiting but a little food and my tummy improves immediately. Because of these diet problems I have gained a lot of weight and continue to slowly gain weight. Any attempts at dieting are futile. If I don’t eat I often I can get nauseous, jittery, headache, etc.
Foods high in fiber tend to make me constipated.

A couple years ago my muscles started jerking. Buying a water filter (to eliminate the fluoride that the city added to our water a few years earlier) and taking high does of magnesium helped reduce the muscle twitching and severity of the migraines, but has not eliminated them.

I often feel like there is to much energy in my smooth muscles (abdomen).

I have had an endocrine work up and was told everything is normal. I have had two 3-hour glucose and one 5-hour glucose test. My sugar fluctuates between 65 and 82 (basically flat). So I do not have diabetes or hypoglycemia. All my other hormone levels were fine.

I welcome any ideas of what may be wrong with me or where to even look for help.

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  • Just a thought, but have you been tested for PCOS and insuline resistance?
    geenie 39 Replies
    • September 28, 2008
    • 10:08 AM
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  • Here is some amateur advice. Keep looking for professional help, though.I suggest trying to get the migraines out of the equation.Don't look for treatment so much as cause.The most common migraine triggers are chocolate, certain red wines and cheese. However, caffeine withdrawal has caused more people I know to have headaches than anything else. When you get a headache, think how long it was since your last 'fix' of caffeine !Unless you are already caffeine-free, get yourself off coffee, tea, coke and all caffeine drinks and tablets. With some folk, the caffeine causes a headache but with most, it is the withdrawal, so it might take a week to wean yourself off totally. Your digestive system will normally improve without the caffeine.You can also get migraines if your nutrition is lacking and your body is starting to burn up your own tissue - producing ketones as a by-product (ketosis). These ketones hit pretty hard and take quite a while to get out of the system, although making yourself sick can help.
    Mountain Goat 13 Replies
    • September 29, 2008
    • 06:37 AM
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  • Thanks for everyone's help, but I think if I had PCOS the OBGYN would have told me. Last year I had all my hormones tested and got an ultrasound. He said everything was normal, no perimenopause either. Though my cycles have differently changed in the past couple of years. As for caffeine withdrawal, I do take the OTC headache medicine as no prescriptions help me anymore. In the past I have tried withdrawing from those drugs thinking it may be a case of rebound headaches. I was beyond misery for half a week and then promptly got another migraine. Nothing had changed for me at all. I might add, during the few years I did take Relpax, my caffeine consumption was minimal (don’t drink coffee ever) and yet I still got a daily migraine. Nothing really changed. Doc wants to try Botox but I prefer to discover the cause and treat that. I find it interesting that the Migraines started developing around the same time as the thirst and hunger problems got worse and I started to develop other symptoms. Buying a water filter a year ago (to remove the fluoride the city began adding to our water) and taking large doses of Magnesium helped many of my symptoms, but did not element them. It is all very frustrating.
    halal37 96 Replies
    • September 29, 2008
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  • I am not sure if I am doing this right because this website is new to me but I too have been suffering from beef cravings and hypoglycemic type reactions to carbs for a few years now. I have been to mutiple Drs, specialists, and even the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota. I did have a Dr from I believe Russia now practicing in Syracuse NY one time elude to a disease she was familiar of that was very rare that caused beef cravings. For me I think it is a strong protien craving and beef seems to calm the craving the most. Im a guy so I do not have all the unique side effects of a womans body and their needs. However I did find out that some form of estrogen is used in cattle feed to fatten them up quicker as they grow and make them ready for beef sale sooner. I have also heard that estrogen is used in some circles to treat I believe if I remember right hy(per)glycemia. I think its possible that the beef cravings may be what your body is craving to counter balance your sensitivity to carbs which are a hypoglycemic condition even though you have not been diagnosed officially with hypoglycemia. If you crave carbs try eating straight protein instead. The rebound will not be as quick but the crashes will possilby be less. When I sleep I had a nutritionist reccomend the Glucerna bars you can buy in most drug stores. I get them at Walmart. They are about a dollar a piece but they are designed to digest slow and keep your sugar levels---level over a period of time, about six hours according to the box. These are just some things that I have found helpful. I do still eat beef almost every night in some form for dinner. The more pure and non deluted the beef is with stuff like soybean etc the more energy it gives me and the longer it lasts without another food craving. Hope it helps Keepinon09 I am really frustrated. I am fed up with doctors dismissing my symptoms and assuming that whatever is wrong is psychological. I know there is something physically wrong with me and I feel terrible. I really need some answers. Since childhood I have always been hungry and thirsty. I noticed as a child I drank a lot more water then my mom and was prone to dehydration. I also discovered carbohydrates seemed to make me hungrier. As I have aged these two problems have just gotten worse. I now always have water next to my bed at night because I know I am likely to wake up thirsty several times during the night. It also isn’t unusual to wake up in the middle of the night starving. I am not positive but I am suspicious a spiritual fast I went on in 2001 may have led to my new and worsening symptoms. Since then I have developed: Daily Migraines (Had sinus surgery in 2006. Before surgery prescription migraine drugs helped, but after the surgery they had no affect). Craving for beef (at first the craving only occurred during my period. The craving was severe and nothing would fill me up until I got a burger. After a few months of this problem I discovered as long as I eat beef a few times a month I would not crave beef during my period. I will say often when I feel ill or ravenous, a hamburger makes me feel physically better). P.S. I do not like the taste of beef and would never eat it if my body didn’t demand it. I use to be a vegetarian, but was forced to start eating animal protein after a few years. I have to really watch my carbohydrate intake. It doesn’t take much to make me feel sick. Some days I can handle more carbs then other days, but when I am going through a sensitive period it doesn’t take many carbs to make me nauseous and jittery. I can feel fine and then after eating (especially carbs) immediately start feeling sleepy and need a nap. A few years ago I discovered eating food helped me feel better when I start feeling nauseous. I can be vomiting but a little food and my tummy improves immediately. Because of these diet problems I have gained a lot of weight and continue to slowly gain weight. Any attempts at dieting are futile. If I don’t eat I often I can get nauseous, jittery, headache, etc.Foods high in fiber tend to make me constipated. A couple years ago my muscles started jerking. Buying a water filter (to eliminate the fluoride that the city added to our water a few years earlier) and taking high does of magnesium helped reduce the muscle twitching and severity of the migraines, but has not eliminated them. I often feel like there is to much energy in my smooth muscles (abdomen). I have had an endocrine work up and was told everything is normal. I have had two 3-hour glucose and one 5-hour glucose test. My sugar fluctuates between 65 and 82 (basically flat). So I do not have diabetes or hypoglycemia. All my other hormone levels were fine. I welcome any ideas of what may be wrong with me or where to even look for help.
    keepinon09 1 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi,This reply is way after your initial post, and I hope you're feeling better... but just in case nothing's changed, have you considered seeing a TCM (traditional chinese medication) physician? I know of ppl who have had relief from migrane headaches from TCM infusions, despite their unpalatability.Peace!
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • Could you be anemic? I crave meat when my iron dips, especially around my period. A simple blood test would tell you. Meat fish & poultry are the only sources of heme iron. Vegetarians need to be careful about this. More info here: http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
    aquila 1,263 Replies Flag this Response
  • I know this is also late, but have I have a gluten allergy, and seem to experience the same thirst and strange symptoms after eating carbs.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • I was borderline anemic for years but never craved beef during that time. Last Dec. the GI doctor tested me and I am no longer anemic. My levels were on the high side of normal. Been tested several times for celiac disease, don't have it. It really does not matter if I eat wheat or gluten or do not eat it, my symptoms do not change.
    halal37 96 Replies Flag this Response
  • I am really frustrated. I am fed up with doctors dismissing my symptoms and assuming that whatever is wrong is psychological. I know there is something physically wrong with me and I feel terrible. I really need some answers. Since childhood I have always been hungry and thirsty. I noticed as a child I drank a lot more water then my mom and was prone to dehydration. I also discovered carbohydrates seemed to make me hungrier. As I have aged these two problems have just gotten worse. I now always have water next to my bed at night because I know I am likely to wake up thirsty several times during the night. It also isn’t unusual to wake up in the middle of the night starving. I am not positive but I am suspicious a spiritual fast I went on in 2001 may have led to my new and worsening symptoms. Since then I have developed: Daily Migraines (Had sinus surgery in 2006. Before surgery prescription migraine drugs helped, but after the surgery they had no affect). Craving for beef (at first the craving only occurred during my period. The craving was severe and nothing would fill me up until I got a burger. After a few months of this problem I discovered as long as I eat beef a few times a month I would not crave beef during my period. I will say often when I feel ill or ravenous, a hamburger makes me feel physically better). P.S. I do not like the taste of beef and would never eat it if my body didn’t demand it. I use to be a vegetarian, but was forced to start eating animal protein after a few years. I have to really watch my carbohydrate intake. It doesn’t take much to make me feel sick. Some days I can handle more carbs then other days, but when I am going through a sensitive period it doesn’t take many carbs to make me nauseous and jittery. I can feel fine and then after eating (especially carbs) immediately start feeling sleepy and need a nap. A few years ago I discovered eating food helped me feel better when I start feeling nauseous. I can be vomiting but a little food and my tummy improves immediately. Because of these diet problems I have gained a lot of weight and continue to slowly gain weight. Any attempts at dieting are futile. If I don’t eat I often I can get nauseous, jittery, headache, etc.Foods high in fiber tend to make me constipated. A couple years ago my muscles started jerking. Buying a water filter (to eliminate the fluoride that the city added to our water a few years earlier) and taking high does of magnesium helped reduce the muscle twitching and severity of the migraines, but has not eliminated them. I often feel like there is to much energy in my smooth muscles (abdomen). I have had an endocrine work up and was told everything is normal. I have had two 3-hour glucose and one 5-hour glucose test. My sugar fluctuates between 65 and 82 (basically flat). So I do not have diabetes or hypoglycemia. All my other hormone levels were fine. I welcome any ideas of what may be wrong with me or where to even look for help. Hi Halal, When I first became a vegetarian, the very first day I could feel a difference. Each day that difference I felt became stronger. Eventually the accumulated difference became severe pain and fatigue. I am no longer a vegetarian. Even though I was traking cyanob12 I( found out whaty it was my body HAD to have daily or I got sick. The natural active b12s found in meat and l-carnitine, an amino acid found mostly in meat along with some other amino acids possbly. You may have a craving for methylb12 and adenosylb12, the two natural active b12s on which your entire body depends. ALso, without carnitine your mitochondria could become crippled at producing energy. Meat, and beef in particular does start providing relief within a couple of hours after eating as it is starting to be absorbed in the intestines. The sometimes profound effect of the Tantric meal on a long time vegetarian demonstrates this. A person on the edge, and some people because of genetic characteristics are always on the edge, can start having deficiency symptoms within 2 or 3 days with b12 input. There is enough b12 and carnitine in a serving of beef to cause a very noticable difference. http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?p=177503#post177503Come on over to the b12 forum and lets talk about this. We can tell you what brands actually work and how to take it effectively. If it's the b12 you will know with the first dose most likely.
    Freddd 3,576 Replies Flag this Response
  • I was given B12 shots for a short time years after I stopped being a vegetarian. Today my B12 levels are perfectly fine. I also didn't started craving beef until many years after I started eating meat again. Personally, I have a feeling the beef craving may be related to my hormone levels. Just a guess though.
    halal37 96 Replies Flag this Response
  • I was given B12 shots for a short time years after I stopped being a vegetarian. Today my B12 levels are perfectly fine. I also didn't started craving beef until many years after I started eating meat again. Personally, I have a feeling the beef craving may be related to my hormone levels. Just a guess though. The shots you were given are 1% to 0.01% as effective as the actual active b12 that I am talking about trying. Further the b12 levels that are "fine" in the tests do not indicate in any way that you may not have active b12 responsive symptoms. The usual range is 170-1100 or so. On the other hand studies done based on symptoms, not on test results indicate people can have b12 levels over 1500 and still have active b12 responsive symptoms. So maybe the odds are 50% that you may have b12 responsive symtpoms. If that is the case nothing else can or will fix them and you will go on with this and getting worse for years or decades until you find out. B12 levels affect hormone levels and literally just about everything else in your body. This answer is one that you can actually test for correctness very quickly unlike many answers that are difficult to test even if correct. If this is correct the proper brand of the proper type taken in the proper way will be almost immediately effective. Headaches are a very common symptom of active b12 deficiency. Nausea is a common b12 deficiency symptom. We have a list with about 300 symptoms that are common b12 deficiency symptoms. Most people with a responsive deficiency have between 10 and 100, some as many as 200. As most doctors disregard most b12 symptoms as psychological they never find them. Good luck.
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  • Freddd, I have 2 Questions: What list of symptoms? Where is this list? I have searched the Internet and never found a good list. And if B12 is my problem then why am I getting sicker as the years progress even though I felt great before I started craving and eating beef (but I ate lots of turkey and chicken) and now that I am eating lots of beef I am getting sicker by the day. Oh, and all my symptoms point to hormone issues.
    halal37 96 Replies Flag this Response
  • SYMPTOMS, SIGNS AND CO-CORRELATES OF METHYLB12, ADENOSYLB12, METHYFOLATE AND SELECTED COFACTOR DEFICIENCIESLAST UPDATE - 02/10/09mouth sensitive to hot and cold sore burning tonguebeef-red tongue, possibly smoother than normalsore mouth, no infection or apparant reasonteeth sensitive to hot and coldcanker soresburning bladder (no UTI)painful urgency (no UTI)burning urethra (no UTI)burning muscle painaccumulating muscle pains following exertionsore muscleslack of muscle recovery after exerciseexercise does not build muscleextremely sore neck muscles reversing normal curvature of neckexercise deblitates for up to a week, making things much worsepainfully tight muscles, especially legs and/or armsfrequent muscle spasms anywhere in bodymuscle pain especially around attachment points to bonesEighteen severely tender muscle spots of FMSBursitisdyspepsia - sick stomach, nausea, regurgitation, vomiting, bloating, not emptyingflatulencealtered bowel habitsabdominal painloss of appetite for meat, fish, eggs, dairy, the only b12 contining foods, nutrient specific anorexiaintermittent constipationintermittant diarrheairritable bowel syndromeCrohns disease (direction of causality if any not established)Celiac disease (direction of causality if any not established) - gluten sensitivityDairy sensitivitysores, ulcers and lesions along entire GI tract or any partanorexiaBullimiareduced libido - loss of sexual desireloss of orgasmic intensityunsatisfying orgasmsinability to orgasmloss and/or change of genital sensations - "gloved" loss of sensationburning genital skin sensationunable to become arousedreduced testosteroneMENerectile disfunctionlow sperm countpoor sperm motilityPoor sperm qualityZero sperm countWOMENpost partum depressionpost partum psychosisFalse positive pap smears, noncancerous cellular changesmenstrual symptomsFrequent miscarriagechild with neuro tube defectsPMSpalenessrapid heart rateheart arythymiasshortness of breathheart palpitationsweak pulsecongestive heart failurearteriosclerosisWidespread pain throughout bodyHypothyroid (direction of causality if any not established)High homocysteineHigh urinary MMAdizziness - even unable to walkvertigo irritabledepressionSAD - Seasonal Affective Disordermental slowingpersonality changeschronic malaisepoor concentrationmoodinesstirednessmood swingsmemory losslistlessnessimpaired connection to othersmentally fuzzy, foggy, brainfogpsychosis, including many of the most florid psychosis seen in literature, megoblastic madnessAlzheimer'sdeliriumdementiaparanoiadelusionshallucinationsstrange "smells" that are not present like linen being ironed, burnt odors or tidal flats etcstrange "sounds" that are not present, rustlings, mummurings, detonations etcdeja vu experiencesanxiety or tensionnervousnessmaniaimpaired executive functioncognitive impairmentmemory impairmentHypersensitivity to touchHypersensitivity to odorsHypersensitivity to tastesHypersensitivity to clothing textureHypersensitivity to chemicalsHypersensitivity to body malfunctions, symtomsHypersensitivity to sounds and noisesHypersensitivity to light and visual stimuliHypersensitivity to blood sugar changesHypersensitivity to internal metabolic changesHypersensitivity to temperature changesHypersensitivity to foodsmild to extremely severe fatiguecontinuous extremely severe fatigueeasy fatiguabilitysevere abnormal fatigue up to and including apparent paralysis leading to deathspastic paralysisweaknesssleep disordersnon restorative sleeplack of dreamingNight terrorsProlonged hypnogogic state transitioning to sleepSleep paralysisalteration of touch all over body, normal touch can be unpleasant and painfulalterations and loss of tastealterations and loss of smellloss of smell and taste of strawberries specificallyloss or alteration of smell and taste of potato chips specificallyroughening and increased raspiness of voice, mb12 can smooth it outin mid wordblurring of vision - can be sudden onset and sudden returndimmed vision - usually not noticed going into it because change can be very slow or present for lifeVisual impairment can be seen; ophthalmological exam may show bilateral visual lossoptic atrophyoptic neuritisoptic neuropathycentrocecal scotomataintolerance to bright lightdiminished hearing - gradual onset or present for life, sudden return possibleunclear hearing, garbledtinnitus - ringing in earsalways feeling coldintolerance to loud soundsintolerance to multiple soundsinability to pick pick out one voice amongst manyBrainstem or cerebellar signs or even reversible (with mb12) coma may occurneural tube defect not caused by folate deficiency or child with itdemyelinated areas on nervessubacute combined degenerationaxonial degeneration of spinal cordunsteadiness of gaitataxic gait, particularly in darkpositive Rombergpositive Lhermittesneuropathies, many typesprogressive bilateral neuropathiesdemyelination of nerves - white spots on nerves on MRIsloss of detail and sensual aspects of touch all over bodyparesthesias in both feet - burning, tingling,cobwebs, wet, hairs, pain, numbness, etcparesthesias in both legs - burning, tingling, cobwebs, wet, hair, pain, numbness, etcparesthesias in both hands - burning, tingling, cobwebs, wet, hairs, pain, numbness, etcparesthesias in both arms - burning, tingling, cobwebs, wet, hairs, pain, numbness, etcLoss of position sense is the most common abnormality (or vibration sense)Loss of vibration sense is the most common abnormality (or position sense)Loss of sense of joint positionhands feel gloved with loss of sensitivityfeet feel socked by loss of sensitivitytremblingneuropathic bladderunable to release bladder, mild to severeurinary incontenance - occasionally to frequentlyfecal incontinance - occasionally to frequentlysudden electric like shocks/pains shooting down arms, body, legs shooting down from neck movementstanding with eyes closed, a slight nudge or bump causes loss of balancemost patients have signs of both spinal cord and peripheral nerve involvementThe effect on reflexes is quite variableMotor impairment may range from only mild clumsiness to a spastic paraplegiaclumsinessslowed nerve impulsesdecreased reflexesdifficulty swallowingbrisk reflexesdecreased deep tendon reflextoes turn up instead of down in reflex to sole stimulationPositive bilateral Babinski reflexFoot Dropimpaired white blood cell responsepoor resistance to infectionseasy bruisingpronounced anemiamacrocytic anemiamegablastic anemiapernicious anemiadecreased blood clottinglow hematocritMCV > 92-94 first warning, MCV > 97-100 alertelevated MCH (Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin)elevated LDHbig fat red cells (when said this way usually with happy or healthy modifying it completely misinterpreting results of MCVplatelet dysfunction, low countwhite cell changes, low counthypersegmented neutrophilsmigraine headache cyclesheadachesinflamed epithelial tissues - mucous membranes, skin, GI, vaginal, lungs, bladderinflamed endothelial tissues - lining of veins and arteries, etchigh CRP without infectionmucous becomes thick, jellied and stickydermatitis herpetiformis, chronic intensely burning itching rashfrequent infected folliclesSeborrheic dermatitisdandruffeczemadermatitisskin on face, hands, feet, turns brown or yellow if anemia occurspoor hair conditionthin nailstransverse ridges on nails, can happen as healing startssplits/sores at corners of mouthHyperhidrosis - excessive sweatingBariatric surgeryDilantin, tegretol and some other medicationsRelatives, grandparant, parent, sibling, child, grandchild ever needing b12 shots or supplementcomaseizuresbrain atrophy with ileal tuberculosis preventing b12 absorbtionSTARTING AS INFANT OR CHILDdelayed myelinationfailure to thriveautismdelayed speechdepressionfrequent or continuous toncilitisfrequent strepfrequent pneumoniafrequent longlasting supposed viral illnesses that linger and linger and lingereverything goes to the lungs for extended periodsheadachesgrowing painsskin problemsdandruffallergiesasthmacontinuous swolen glands in necklow grade fever for yearsNight terrorsProlonged hypnogogic state transitioning to sleepSleep paralysisseizurescoma
    Freddd 3,576 Replies Flag this Response
  • Freddd, I have 2 Questions: What list of symptoms? Where is this list? I have searched the Internet and never found a good list. And if B12 is my problem then why am I getting sicker as the years progress even though I felt great before I started craving and eating beef (but I ate lots of turkey and chicken) and now that I am eating lots of beef I am getting sicker by the day. Oh, and all my symptoms point to hormone issues. Hi Halal, I am responding separately from the list as the list is maximum size for a post. This is a list that I compiled form several sources from around the world. The UK list is quite different from a USA list for instance, presumably since a different inactive cobalamin form is used for vitamins and therapy. However, this is missing some of the items on the wrongdiagnosis site list which I recently looked at and will add those items. As this list also expands upon some one line descriptions to allow for tracking progressions over time and includes redundent symptoms and signs so that a person that understands it either way will find what they understand, it is longer than a list that is trying to be compact and fit on a single printed page. A person might have anywhere from a handful to a couple of hundred symptoms as listed. And if B12 is my problem then why am I getting sicker as the years progress even though I felt great before I started craving and eating beef (but I ate lots of turkey and chicken) and now that I am eating lots of beef I am getting sicker by the day There are lots of reasons why this could be, all generally associated with aging. If for instance your stomach is producing progressively less acid as the years go by, less and less b12 would be absorbed. If inflamation in the intestine is increasing thereby decreasing absorbtion there you have it. As there are 2 different active b12s that do different things in the body and are handled and excreted differently by the body and also in the brain/cord there are four different sets of b12 deficiency syndromes that are further subtyped by which cofactors are missing. Turkey and chicken contain very little carnitine for instance and relatively little b12. The lack can cause an increase in inflamation in the intestine that fuerther reduces absorbtion so that when the diet is changed things just continue to get worse. B12 deficiency causes irritable bowel syndrome, IBS. Once that gets started it worsens b12 deficiency and doesn't correct easily. The list includes symptoms, not a lot of diagnosis since so many of the symptoms are non-specific and can be caused or contributed to by lots of factors. Lack of b12 can cause hormone problems, it sure did for me. The good thing about having b12 deficiency is that you don't need you doctor's permission to correct it. Also, if some of your symptoms are caused or worsened by b12 deficiency, response can be very rapid. It doesn't have to remain a mystery for years. You can know within a few days to a month if you are responsive by doing a trial. Some brands work up to 100 times better than other brands. Some types work 100 to 10,000 times better than other types. Some methods of taking b12 work 15 to 20 times better than other methods. What we can offer you at the b12 deficiency forum is the knowledge of types, brands and methods most likely to work on symptoms. This knowledge was gained by testing and personal trials. There are plenty of people there that had no response to injections at the doctors who had lots of response to the right brand right type right method b12 taken the the necessary cofactors to make it work. Good luck.
    Freddd 3,576 Replies Flag this Response
  • Have your potassium and magnesium levels been checked? Many of your symptoms fit with low levels of these nutrients, including the beef craving.
    Harmonium 322 Replies Flag this Response
  • What about fruits, vegetables, and nuts? Can you provide a list of medications, drugs, and supplements you are taking? Do you continue any uncommon "spiritual" practices? How often do you exercise?
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  • I know this is an old post but I want to provide an update so anyone coming across this with similar symptoms might get a lead to their problem. An endocrinologist was unable to see the evidence in front of her but an OBGYN who specializes in hormonal issues for both men and woman and treats perimenopause with bio-identical hormones did put all the pieces together. I have adrenal fatigue which could very well explain the beef craving, along with the long list of other symptoms I have developed in the past few years. Even though my blood levels of epinephrine and testosterone are both so low the lab could not measure them, the endocrinologist ignored this and said everything was normal. The OBGYN noticed they were low and ordered a saliva test which revealed my cortisone levels, which turned out to be so low that only the morning level could be detected. From noon on no cortisone could be detected. I also happen to have a Vitamin D deficiency, which is a huge surprise because I am in the sun a lot and am light skin. Warning, D3 is what needs to be tested for. The body uses D3, not D2, which the body has to covert to D3 to be usable. In the past a doctor tested my Vitamin D2 level which is normal. But this OBGYN tested my Vitamin D3 levels which are dangerously low. For some reason I am not converting Vitamin D2 (found in our food) into the form that the body needs. So if a doctor tests you for Vitamin D deficiency but does a D2 test, do not rely on that lab. Insist on D3.
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  • I understand your search for answers, but I am sorry to say that this is likely not the correct one. You may be disinclined to believe me, but there is no medically recognized condition called "adrenal fatigue." I will direct your attention to a brief article from which I have also taken an excerpt below:"It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called "adrenal fatigue" may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll."(Quoted from:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583accessed 7/4/2009) Unfortunately, while the article referenced above states that this "diagnosis" is used by "unqualified medical practitioner(s)", on conducting a simple internet search I found quite a number of MDs indulging in this charlatanism in search of lucre. My intention here is not to try to convince you of anything, but merely prevent you from being duped. Please ask your other physician (the endocrinologist, for instance, or your primary care physician) about this condition before investing in a medically unrecognized treatment.
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  • This is crazy.. I am a year and a half late, and doubt any of you will find this, but I crave been all the time!! I eat 95% lean ground beef 3 times a day. I am not sure if this is healthy for me, but I absolutely LOVE it. Perhaps it has something to do with the B12 correlation, but I cannot be sure.. Anyway, to the originial poster, I suggest you get checked for food allergies and candida. That is what caused my migraines. It took me years to figure out.. I also got botox just in the area between my eyebrows, and it totally helped!! I used to be anemic and struggle with hypoglycemia as well. I hope you figure it out, if you haven't already!! Thanks!
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • February 24, 2010
    • 06:42 AM
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  • I finally found a doctor who not only listened to me but knew what tests to run and figured out what some of my problems are. I went to an OBGYN who treats with bioidentical hormones and ran siliva tests. After listening to me he tested my adrenals which turned out to be very low. By the way, even my blood tests showed adrenal problems but the endocronlogist totally ignored those labs. The OBGYN also tested my D3 levels (so low I was in danger of heart damage even though I live in a hot sunny climate and am white) and my calcium levels were the lowest he and the lab had ever seen. He found a few other things, but the adrenal fatigue could explain my beef cravings. My body knew it needed something and was trying to get it. I have been under treatment for a about 7 months and feel a lot better. I also have discovered the possible cause of my migraines: PFO.http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/disorders/congenital/pfo.aspx I learned about this possiblity watching Mystery Diagnosis and had to educate the cardiologist I visited. He had never heard of the connection. This link is still in the research stage and not all migraines are caused by PFO's, but a few are.
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