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Help me - Fecal smelling belches

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • November 7, 2007
  • 09:32 AM

For 5 years, now and then, I have had fecal extremily bad smelling belches

It starts at first that I stop going to toalet for 1 or 2 days, I feel my whole belly very swelled like a balloon and with really very aloud noises that people close to me can hear the noises, then the very nasty smelling belches start, it can last for 1, 2, 3 days (once it lasted for 6 days) and everything disapears when suddenly I can go to the toalet again which then it's with strong and nasty diahrea which can be for 1 or 2 days, 4 to 10 times a day.

I can eat normally during this time I'm having all these symptoms without any problem like nauseas or vomits, nothing else than the symptoms above.

I've noticed that this starts after I have eaten nuts and/or corns most of the times, but not always, sometimes it starts from nothing. Also that to eat plooms helps to delay more to happens, then I keep eating them but also sometimes it starts any way.

I already made several exams (X-ray, endoscopy, computer tomography, with contrast, ultrasonography and another which I don't know the name) and nothing seems to be wrong. The doctors are lost and I have to suffer now and then because the nasty smelling is so terrible that makes ashame and I isolate myself since nobody can support to be in the same room with me.

I have controlled diabets, ciculation and obesity problems. I'm 57 y.o.

Sorry for my english, it's not my first language.

Thanks for any help.

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  • What Causes Repetitive Belching?Some people experience frequent belching. This might occur after a person has swallowed air without realizing it. Sometimes belching accompanies movement of stomach material back up (reflux) into the esophagus (swallowing tube). To clear material from the esophagus, a person may swallow frequently, which leads to more intake of air and further belching. Another cause of repeated belching is gastritis (inflammation of the stomach). There are many causes of acute or chronic gastritis, but the most common cause is infection with a bacterium called Helicobacter pylori. When this organism gets into the stomach, it can produce bloating. This condition usually can be diagnosed by a specialist in digestive diseases (gastroenterologist). The doctor may detect the infection with a breath test or a blood test. The doctor also may give you a breath test to find out if you are lactose intolerant. The breath test detects hydrogen that is released by the bacteria as the undigested lactose ferments in the colon. The doctor also may take a sample of tissue (biopsy) from the stomach, using a lighted, flexible tube (endoscope) that is inserted through the mouth. The doctor also may give you a blood test to check for heliobacter in the stomach. The unpleasant odor of some flatus is the result of trace gases, such as hydrogen sulfide, indole, and skatole, which are produced when foods decompose in the colon. I thought the breath test part was interesting in this article. Are you very active? A mile walk every day might just get your plumbing moving. Also, don't drink anything carbonated. Maybe a very bland diet could help until you get regulated. Some people can't handle too much fiber at first, so go easy on the prunes. No more than 5 a day. Don't eat any dairy until you find out if you are lactose intolerant. Bananas, rice,apples etc are easy on the gut. PREVENTION OF GASIf you are bothered by excessive belching or flatus, and your physician has determined that you have no serious disease, the following suggestions may be helpful: Check with a dentist to make sure dentures fit properly.Avoid chewing gum or sucking on hard candies (especially sugarless gum or dietetic candies that contain sorbitol).Eliminate carbonated beverages from your diet.Avoid milk and milk products if you have lactose intolerance.Eat fewer gas-producing foods such as cauliflower, brussels sprouts, bran, beans, broccoli, and cabbage.Walking, jogging, calisthenics, and other exercise help to stimulate the passage of gas through the digestive tract.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies
    • November 7, 2007
    • 00:16 PM
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  • looks like your body is not doing the oxidation process. Hydrogen Sulfide is what you smell. It is the smell of things decomposing in your gastrointestinal tract by natural occuring bacteria.All that bloating is gas that you are supposed to decomposed - but instead it builds up.You need to help your oxidation process- this can be dangerous in the long run.Change your diet. No process food, no aritificial ingredients.Eat vinegar- apple cider vinegar...liquid or tablets. This will help you go regular and help the oxidation process.One your oxidation is up and running you will need antioxidants.You probably need more clean water, oxygen, and antioxidants. Do you drink diet sodas? You need to avoid them- go cold turkey.Best.Fruity.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • November 7, 2007
    • 09:19 PM
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  • It's not normal belches problems coming from the stomach. I'm sure the belches are coming from the intestines because the smelling is true fecal(****) and the exams didn't show any kind of problem in the stomach and up also. Thanks for your time.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
    • 08:53 AM
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  • The problem is often seen with stictures in the small intestine. You need to ask for a small bowel follow through. Do you have any problems with diarreah or constipation as well? Good Luck. Kiera
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
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  • There are so many valves between the stomach and the colon it is doubtful that air is coming that way. What happens when you pass gas the other way? Does it still smell the same? Everyone has gas intheir stomach andintestine. Air gets theremainly by being swallowed.Although carbonateddrinks like soda releasea small amount of carbondioxide gas, it is often expelled as a belch or aburp. Little gas is found in the small intestine, andmost of it is swallowed air on its way to the largeintestine (the colon). Additional gas in the colon iscreated when bacteria digest certain components offood that are not completely absorbed. The mostcommon sources of gas in the colon are:● Fiber-rich foods such as whole grains● Sugars found in mushrooms, and some fruits andvegetables● Lactose, in people with lactose intolerance● Sweeteners like sorbitol or xylitol used in food,candy and chewing gumThe most common gases produced in the intestineare hydrogen, carbon dioxide, and methane, noneof which are foul smelling. The offensive smell ofgas is caused as tiny amounts of proteins, fat andcarbohydrates breakdown by certain bacteria.Everyone passes gas each day. This is normaland does not have to be painful or considered aproblem. Excess gas that can be caused by eatinglarge amounts of indigestible foods can causebloating, cramps, pain, and diarrhea. Excessivebelching or burping can result from frequent airswallowing and is seen in children who suck onpacifiers or cry for long periods of time. In olderchildren, chewing gum can be factor. Purposeful airgulping is a common “talent’ learned and displayedby some school-age children and teenagers.The best way to control intestinal gas is to avoid theconsumption of those foods that generate the gas.A “low gas diet” eliminates large amounts of fiberrichvegetables and fruits, particularly items suchas beans, asparagus, mushrooms, cauliflower orbroccoli. Cooking these foods and pre-soakingthem will diminish their ability to form gas.Trial and error is often needed to pinpoint the mainculprit of increased gas in an individual. Lactoserestriction or use of a lactase enzyme supplementwill help those with lactose intolerance.Use of medications such as simethicone oractivated charcoal is popular but probably notbeneficial. Try this plan.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
    • 10:08 AM
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  • It's not normal belches problems coming from the stomach. I'm sure the belches are coming from the intestines because the smelling is true fecal(****) and the exams didn't show any kind of problem in the stomach and up also. Thanks for your time.Food is supposed to be decomposed in the intestines, not in the stomach...so I understand your concern but I don't know if belches can travel the distance from intestines to esophagus- so certainly I can't produce all answers. Science works on educated assumptions.Please, try to detach yourself from your comfort zone- and feel free to question your dietary habits. I am not saying that you 'did this to yourself' - but change can be good. Exams are not gonna show chemical equuations going wrong;exams work on the mechanical characteristics...Be well,Fruity.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
    • 04:22 PM
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  • I suspect a problem in some of the valves, maybe, for bad circulation causing to paralize a valve and then blocking the intestines which start contracting stronger and more often producing the alaud noises until it can make the food goes ahead. I have read about blocked intestines and I found there the closest to explanations/symptoms about how I feel, some patients even have fecal vomits which is not my case yet. If it just were about what I eat then I should have more frequently, but I can be months without any problem that I even think it desappeared and then it suddenly comes back, as it can happen every week for 1 month and again desappears for months, also it has happened to desappear for almost 2 years. I just can't notice what is starting the crises, only corn and nuts I already could notice. Well, let's see... It was a hope here... thanks.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
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  • I suspect a problem in some of the valves, maybe, for bad circulation causing to paralize a valve and then blocking the intestines which start contracting stronger and more often producing the alaud noises until it can make the food goes ahead. I have read about blocked intestines and I found there the closest to explanations/symptoms about how I feel, some patients even have fecal vomits which is not my case yet. If it just were about what I eat then I should have more frequently, but I can be months without any problem that I even think it desappeared and then it suddenly comes back, as it can happen every week for 1 month and again desappears for months, also it has happened to desappear for almost 2 years. I just can't notice what is starting the crises, only corn and nuts I already could notice. Well, let's see... It was a hope here... thanks.Well, don't get discouraged...I'll run some research, meanwhile someone else may come here and shed some light.Hang in there dear!Best,Fruity.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
    • 07:27 PM
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  • The reason you don't have these problems every day is because the strictures will most likey only give you problems when the area is inflamed. Strictures can easily become inflamed because it is hard for the food to pass and it can cause irritation around the site of the stricture. This makes the space even tighter causing everything to back up. If the stricture gets to the point where there is no room for anything to pass... well like you said it can cause a person to actually vomit feces. It can be caused by strictures from scartissue after healed ulcers in the small intestine or from some kind of growth. In either case you need to have a small bowel follow through or a pill cam to find out where the stricture is and what is causing it. Good Luck Kiera
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 10, 2007
    • 08:38 PM
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  • Dear Deia,I was thinking about you...I think you ought to try Traditional Chinese Medicine,with a well trained and certified Practitioner. Look for the best Doctor of Oriental Medicine near you. It is a different approach but it is very effective.I think there is a lot going on with you- as far as organ disharmony. I am not a doctor but I have the impression that this can be solved or improved with Acupuncture and that you won't need to worry about invasive procedures.I think your intestines are contracting, like when people have food intolerances, or various allergies and their intestines get contracted. This is a response from the immune system: internal inflammation.Are you familiar with Anaphylactic shock? Now anaphylaxis-like reactions are happening to people in their nose, esophagus, and colon...they just close tightly. It is the immune system going out of whack. So look into Acupuncture, this can build your immunse system- specially if it is an Oriental doctor that practices NAET. He/she can find out what exactly makes your organs react and also put needles on your points to tone and relax the organs.You will need several visits...but your brain, mood, sleep, will be restored. Even the way you approach difficulties may improve. :) The doctor won't tell you that (wink) but they wait for you to figure it out on your own.Best,SincerelyFruity.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • November 11, 2007
    • 06:51 PM
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  • have they checked for crones disease?
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 12, 2007
    • 09:07 PM
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  • Fruity and Sadie, food intolerance and Crohn's disease were checked and nothing. From some weeks ago, I didn't conect before, I've had constant pain under/around the rips in the left side going to until the midle of the belly and back. Also I fortog to say that the first time these nasty belches happened it was when I was around 25 to 30 years old, that time I didn't have any of these health problems which I have today and they desappeared for around 10 years then to come back more and more often. The problem is that here in Sweden the doctors have limitations to ask exams because of the cost, they don't say but we know, the public health care is very poor and there isn't private that I could pay for getting a better investigation and they don't ask more exams before other symptoms appear and I get worse. Thta is irritating here that you have to be dieing to get serious treatment. Thanks, friends.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 13, 2007
    • 08:09 AM
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  • well i had a simillar case ( i'm a dentist)i used to have this noisy sound and pain with a feeling of contaction in more than one place ( yeah as if the pain is moving) i discovered that i had hyperactive colon ( that means the intestinal movements are totally uncontrolled ) by taking the proper medication the pain stoped and the contractions too> and i noticed that the exess amounts of gas became normal. and of course the attacks have no fixed time they just come suddenly. the cause is stress ( attacks may come days or weaks after the stress period)
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 30, 2008
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  • I suspect a problem in some of the valves, maybe, for bad circulation causing to paralize a valve and then blocking the intestines which start contracting stronger and more often producing the alaud noises until it can make the food goes ahead. I have read about blocked intestines and I found there the closest to explanations/symptoms about how I feel, some patients even have fecal vomits which is not my case yet. If it just were about what I eat then I should have more frequently, but I can be months without any problem that I even think it desappeared and then it suddenly comes back, as it can happen every week for 1 month and again desappears for months, also it has happened to desappear for almost 2 years. I just can't notice what is starting the crises, only corn and nuts I already could notice. Well, let's see... It was a hope here... thanks.hey listen i have the same problem thats how i found this page. Its funny you say corn and nuts because that is the only 2 things i could come up with aswell i have the belching problem right now and i had popcorn last night. i have had this problem for at least 15 years i am 31 yr old now and can remember having the smelly burps in high school. I thaught i was the only one on the planet with this problem.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • January 6, 2009
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  • First of all,avoid corn and nuts.Next,you have what is known as fetid breath,but it is not caused by feces.Excellent oral hygiene is in order.Brush your teeth 3 times a day and floss daily.If this doesn't work, there's an antibiotic rinse that can be prescribed.
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies
    • January 7, 2009
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  • The rinse is called Peridex.
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies
    • January 7, 2009
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  • Ok, I'm seriously getting sick of this medicine world. Everyone I've seen with the same symptoms keep getting the run around, or a garden variety answer. It's not halitosis, or swallowing excess air, etc... fear not health professionals, you can't discredit virus here, unless you all say that these are contagious, IE: Diabetes, abcess teeth, whatever. I'm sorry, people aren't that ignorant to not know they have a rotten tooth. I don't think your partner can catch an abcess. LOL. Try harder guys. It started two years ago. I woke up one night with my stomach swollen... and felt like I was going to explode. All of a sudden, this titanic burp came out, and it almost scared me. After a few seconds, it woke my girlfriend up. It made the whole room smell like rotten eggs. After that for about 9 days, I would burp so frequently, I couldn't carry on a conversation. I had eaten some bacon, and I thought that might be the culprit. It was accompanied by diarheah, stomach pain, and a mild fever. Yeah, so whats wrong with me, or what WAS wrong with me? FEVER MEANS INFECTION! I went to the emergency room one night, as I had simply had enough. They gave me IV fluids...(dumb dr's, I didn't vomit.. I was completely hydrated), and took a fecal sample. Here's the kicker. I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK ABOUT IT. I even went as far as to call the hospital and ASK THEM FOR THE RESULTS! That's not very pleasing, but they said they didn't have any information. Two weeks later, my girlfriend got the "crap burps." Sooo, in conclusion... ITS SOMETHING CONTAGIOUS. Anyone have anymore bright advice? Maybe it's sea swells? I don't see how you can all say that this isn't a virus, or something contagious. Mine started WITH A FEVER, and ended two weeks later with my girlfriend getting it. INFECTION+CONTAGIOUS = ?
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • January 10, 2009
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  • Phaze:Burps that smell like rotten eggs are usually due to giardiasis,which is a gastrointestinal infection.Were you treated?
    richard wayne2b 1,232 Replies
    • January 10, 2009
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  • Hello thereI used to have the exact same symptoms you have described, and so did my mother. We were both diagnosed with coeliac (Allergic to Gluten). I strongly suggest you try and gluten free diet and see if the 'eggy' ( or so me and my mum called them) and the upset stomach goes away. I completely sympathise with you about the belches - they are so strong and it is so embaressing. I know how you fell. I am 23 and have been on the diet for 10 years and it has changed my life. You must cut out ALL gluten - not just big bits like bread and pasta. I has to mean reading the labels of everything and making life change. Try it for a month and you WILL see the change. I promise. Good luck.
    natashavelyn 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Ok, I'm seriously getting sick of this medicine world. Everyone I've seen with the same symptoms keep getting the run around, or a garden variety answer. It's not halitosis, or swallowing excess air, etc... fear not health professionals, you can't discredit virus here, unless you all say that these are contagious, IE: Diabetes, abcess teeth, whatever. I'm sorry, people aren't that ignorant to not know they have a rotten tooth. I don't think your partner can catch an abcess. LOL. Try harder guys. It started two years ago. I woke up one night with my stomach swollen... and felt like I was going to explode. All of a sudden, this titanic burp came out, and it almost scared me. After a few seconds, it woke my girlfriend up. It made the whole room smell like rotten eggs. After that for about 9 days, I would burp so frequently, I couldn't carry on a conversation. I had eaten some bacon, and I thought that might be the culprit. It was accompanied by diarheah, stomach pain, and a mild fever. Yeah, so whats wrong with me, or what WAS wrong with me? FEVER MEANS INFECTION! I went to the emergency room one night, as I had simply had enough. They gave me IV fluids...(dumb dr's, I didn't vomit.. I was completely hydrated), and took a fecal sample. Here's the kicker. I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK ABOUT IT. I even went as far as to call the hospital and ASK THEM FOR THE RESULTS! That's not very pleasing, but they said they didn't have any information. Two weeks later, my girlfriend got the "crap burps." Sooo, in conclusion... ITS SOMETHING CONTAGIOUS. Anyone have anymore bright advice? Maybe it's sea swells? I don't see how you can all say that this isn't a virus, or something contagious. Mine started WITH A FEVER, and ended two weeks later with my girlfriend getting it. INFECTION+CONTAGIOUS = ? That may well have been the case for you but it is not always a contagious thing. I suffered with these exact symptoms that this lady is describing and it is because I am coeliac allergic to gluten. I suffered with this for three years before I was correctly diagnosed. Terrible. x
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