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sweat smells of cat pee, then later ammonia

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  • Posted By: michaelmas
  • March 23, 2007
  • 07:29 PM

Hi,
I am 33 and abused my body 13 years ago by regularly taking ecstasy (every weekend average 10 tabs for 2 years). I had serious issues with my self-confidence and the drugs made me feel sociable. I stopped taking the class-A drugs and was clean for about five years, but then got into weight training. I thought that if I developed the 'perfect' body people would want me, sad I know. I used sustanon for 2 courses, and dianabol for three courses (a course was 6 weeks). In the weeks when I was not using steroids I took creatine at 5gm a day, which was preceeded by a loading phase of 25gm per day. In order to benefit from the steroids I followed the advice I was given which was to take 250gms of protein in shakes a day. I noticed after several of months of this that my sweat stank of urine, and was really offensive. The advice I was given was drink more water, which I did. After I had been using the protein and steroids for about a year I gave it all up and was increasingly concerned about the smell of my sweat. I did a detox and drank 3 litres of water a day and ate a very healthy diet. The smell eventually subsided by about 50% and I then just changed my clothes regularly to avoid stinking. A year ago I decided that something was wrong and went to see my GP. I told her about my sweat smelling of cat pee, and later ammonia and she looked mystified and sent a letter to a skin specialist asking for an appointment for me - which I didn't go to. In the mean time I did some research on the net and was alarmed at what I read I.e my syptoms could be indicative of liver or kidney disease. I returned to my GP and it was a locum, I told him the full story of my drug abuse, steroids and protein, and he sent me for blood tests. I then saw my Gp for the results which she announced as 'plumb normal'. I told her again about my smelly sweat and she said 'I can assure you that if you had something wrong with your kidneys you would be in a bad way and would know about it'. I developed a way of removing the smell which was to take several saunas a week. If I don't sauna for a week or so the stench returns. I really don't not know what to do as my GP insists that I am ok. I don't know if this is means anything, but I have dark circles under my eyes and they have been there for years irrespective of how much sleep I get. I recently read that foaming urine can also indicate illness, and my urine does foam especially first thing in the morning when I wake up, but it does not foam all the time. Can anyone please offer me advice on what I should do? I am concerned, and felt like a hypochondriac when my GP was unconcerned about my smelly sweat. I don't have any health issues that I am aware of and am desperate to get rid of the smell as it is anti-social. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.

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  • FirstlyWhen a doctor organises an appointment to see a specialist you should go. They don't do it for a laugh.Sounds to me like you have abused your body far too much, you probably need to see a dietician to structure you diet. You need to stop taking medication of any kind, I only take aspirin unless i'm admitted to hospital. Since reducing my drug intake and improving my diet i have a far better immune system.I also advise to stop drinking alcohol as lager often makes your sweat stink, Instead if you must drink favour wine or spirits.Continue exercising regularly but DO NOT take Steriods. Steriods are linked with the human form of Mad Cows desease (CJD) which 99.9 percent of persons affected had taken Steriods in early life or later on.I would not pursue fancy detox mumbo jumbo as there is no conclusive proof about this stuff.You should simply follow these basic rules.EAT normally (well balanced diet) ( not junk food)Drink moderately ( no binging )No Drugs ( take medication when it is absolute must )Exercise ( Healthy body )No late nightclubbing - probably reason for black rings under your eyes.Good luckHi, I am 33 and abused my body 13 years ago by regularly taking ecstasy (every weekend average 10 tabs for 2 years). I had serious issues with my self-confidence and the drugs made me feel sociable. I stopped taking the class-A drugs and was clean for about five years, but then got into weight training. I thought that if I developed the 'perfect' body people would want me, sad I know. I used sustanon for 2 courses, and dianabol for three courses (a course was 6 weeks). In the weeks when I was not using steroids I took creatine at 5gm a day, which was preceeded by a loading phase of 25gm per day. In order to benefit from the steroids I followed the advice I was given which was to take 250gms of protein in shakes a day. I noticed after several of months of this that my sweat stank of urine, and was really offensive. The advice I was given was drink more water, which I did. After I had been using the protein and steroids for about a year I gave it all up and was increasingly concerned about the smell of my sweat. I did a detox and drank 3 litres of water a day and ate a very healthy diet. The smell eventually subsided by about 50% and I then just changed my clothes regularly to avoid stinking. A year ago I decided that something was wrong and went to see my GP. I told her about my sweat smelling of cat pee, and later ammonia and she looked mystified and sent a letter to a skin specialist asking for an appointment for me - which I didn't go to. In the mean time I did some research on the net and was alarmed at what I read I.e my syptoms could be indicative of liver or kidney disease. I returned to my GP and it was a locum, I told him the full story of my drug abuse, steroids and protein, and he sent me for blood tests. I then saw my Gp for the results which she announced as 'plumb normal'. I told her again about my smelly sweat and she said 'I can assure you that if you had something wrong with your kidneys you would be in a bad way and would know about it'. I developed a way of removing the smell which was to take several saunas a week. If I don't sauna for a week or so the stench returns. I really don't not know what to do as my GP insists that I am ok. I don't know if this is means anything, but I have dark circles under my eyes and they have been there for years irrespective of how much sleep I get. I recently read that foaming urine can also indicate illness, and my urine does foam especially first thing in the morning when I wake up, but it does not foam all the time. Can anyone please offer me advice on what I should do? I am concerned, and felt like a hypochondriac when my GP was unconcerned about my smelly sweat. I don't have any health issues that I am aware of and am desperate to get rid of the smell as it is anti-social. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
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  • have a similar history to you, did about 4-5 ecstasy pills a night, sometimes 3-4 nights a week... about a year ago i came across alkalising your body, which quickly turned into a vegetarian/vegan diet and eventually even lots of raw food...cured everything i ever had including smelly sweat, arthritis pains in knees and shoulder... back pains... even hayfever is gone... and got loads more energy and feel overall great, healthy and balanced!some people tell me its to tough for them to switch, for me it wasn't, but then i used the total detox method, meaning: imagine your body is like a swimmingpool with dirty water in it, you have two options, continuously let clean water flow in till eventually all dirty water is exchanged (god know how long this method takes ;)alternatively empty body completely and then refill with healthy and fresh water, then only maintain (maintaining is soooo much easier!)I did the later through an alkalising detox program (i recommend Oxy-Powder or Oxy-Flush) and follow the intense program suggestion... after that it was really easy to choose what goes back in, all the cravings had bin washed out of my body already!after 1.5years of vegan raw i've recently started having occasionally fish and even meat, and the benefits still stay, but i get to enjoy the bbq season more fully ;)oh and if you're inspired to give it a try, remember to always focus on what you want, i.e. focus on increasing veggies, never mind if you have some meat once in a while, just steadily focus on increasing veggies!!!good luck and have fun with it
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  • http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/1072.html An ammonia odor is caused by infection with Helicobacter, the bacteria that causes stomach ulcers, or by eating too much protein. Ask your doctor to draw a blood test for helicobacter. If it is positive, you can be cured with antibiotics. If it is negative, you may need to eat less meat, fish, chicken and dairy products. When you take in more protein than your body can use immediately, your body strips ammonia from protein to make you smell like ammonia. Also, because of your past habits, you should have your endocrines examined by an endocrinologist and check your thyroid and all the other hormones.
    Monsterlove 2,921 Replies Flag this Response
  • I really don't think that your past abuse caused this, as I am a healthy active 28 year old , I've never abused drugs and am generally never sick. I've had the same problem for the last 3 years and coincidentally I've been an athlete for those 3 years as well, so they must be tied somehow. I also have a friend who experiences this and he's a non-active vegetarian which confuses me because I cannot make the connection between all of these different situations. One doctor told me it was the breaking down of protein, so I switched my protein and increased my intake as well and nothing helps. I do however notice that certain fabrics bring the smell out more. I'm going to check into the kidney/liver info. PLease post if you've made any progress.Thanks and Good Luck!
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • August 19, 2008
    • 09:14 PM
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  • " fruity smell, for example, may be a sign of diabetes and an ammonia smell could indicate liver or kidney disease. " From: http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00305.html
    aquila 1,263 Replies
    • August 21, 2008
    • 02:19 PM
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  • FirstlyWhen a doctor organises an appointment to see a specialist you should go. They don't do it for a laugh.Sounds to me like you have abused your body far too much, you probably need to see a dietician to structure you diet. You need to stop taking medication of any kind, I only take aspirin unless i'm admitted to hospital. Since reducing my drug intake and improving my diet i have a far better immune system.I also advise to stop drinking alcohol as lager often makes your sweat stink, Instead if you must drink favour wine or spirits.Continue exercising regularly but DO NOT take Steriods. Steriods are linked with the human form of Mad Cows desease (CJD) which 99.9 percent of persons affected had taken Steriods in early life or later on.I would not pursue fancy detox mumbo jumbo as there is no conclusive proof about this stuff.You should simply follow these basic rules.EAT normally (well balanced diet) ( not junk food)Drink moderately ( no binging )No Drugs ( take medication when it is absolute must )Exercise ( Healthy body )No late nightclubbing - probably reason for black rings under your eyes.Good luckMad cow disease and kuru (the human manifestation of it) are caused by filoviruses, not steroids.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • September 3, 2008
    • 04:47 AM
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  • For the 2 athletes on here, more than likely you are completely fine. Sweat will have a urine smell when you are in ketosis. It is not a "healthy" state to always be in, but it happens a lot among athletes, especially when you are on a low-carb diet as well. It is basically the ketones (A byproduct of the liver breaking down fat) being released from your body.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • September 14, 2008
    • 02:24 PM
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  • hey there-i NEVER take any drugs whatsoever or drink alcohol- i don't even smoke . i also eat very healthily, if a tad too much. i'm a little overweight, but more naturally athletic. i don't work out too much and lead a pretty sedentary lifestyle.i have this cat pee problem too- um nice! it's in my t-shirts/ coats/ jumpers etc etc. i can wash them on intensive cycle at 60 degrees and still, it's there (and when it's not, boy does it come back after 15 mins of wearing the garnment). annoying! i also sweat excessively, much more so over the last few months.i am going to try the white vinegar in the washingmachine tomorrow, but my point of writing is:don't just put it down to your drug use, and i only say this because i have a similar problem and i'm a goody-two-shoes.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 8, 2008
    • 00:14 AM
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  • I have exact same problem. It is much more a problem with bedding and under clothing. I think mostly in my pillows and their cases. I cannot believe I suffer from this awful problem as I'm way obsessive-compulsive and extremely anal. Far worse, I think I'm the most olfactorily blessed person I have ever met. Please if anyone has a suggestion or knows anything, POST. :) I'm not a regular member here but please feel free and welcome to mail me at spelonkerlover01@aol.com.Thanks to all!
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • January 10, 2009
    • 02:26 AM
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  • Hello. I was searching for information regarding strong smelling sweat and found your thread.There were several body building websites that made note of this.The best explanation I found was that you are eating more protein than your body, specifically your kidneys can handle.Here is the website:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htmBest of luck!P.S. As far as washing the smell away from clothing, I have had success with an oxygen based cleansing powder in very warm water.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • February 24, 2009
    • 04:02 AM
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  • I had the same problem some years ago. After I showered within twenty minutes my towel would smell so bad I would have to put it outside! I discovered that being on a low carb diet caused me to excrete one of the by products of protein which is ammonia. Atheletes tend to have the same problem I found out because of the breakdown of protein within the body (glucose is used up?). For what its worth thats what I discovered. went back to eating normal and the problem cleared up within days or weeks. I now have no bo.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • November 13, 2009
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  • Hi all i came across a similar question in another search, this might help:http://runningdoctor.runnersworld.com/2008/05/why-does-my-swe.htmlAnd i copied and pasted the main part here :What is ammonia and where does it come from?Ammonia (chemical term is NH3) is a nitrogen breakdown product of amino acids in the body. Amino acids are the building blocks to make proteins in the body. If your body turn to breaking down amino acids for energy (instead of using carbohydrate and/or fat), the nitrogen atom is chemically stripped of the amino acid molecule (which is then converted to glucose fuel) and processes the nitrogen in the kidneys and forms urea for excretion. If your kidneys cannot handle the load of urea, the nitrogen is excreted in your sweat as ammonia.Hope this helps,Oisin
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 21, 2009
    • 11:51 AM
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  • I have had this from time to time in my life as well. I am now 36 but this happened a lot to me in high school and college and I never have taken drugs, nor am I a drinker.It usually got really bad at times of stress -- finals, performances or athletic meets. So I think it is most likely a chemical reaction caused by increased hormonal output. I don't know, but now I am glad to know that I am not the only one.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • January 8, 2010
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  • I find my sweat smell changes with my diet. But the main thing I wanted to say here is this: try to avoid sythetic clothing. After payingattention over many years to when and why my smell gets really strongI've come to a point where I can tell you if there is a synthetc fibre in the fabricjust by putting it on for an hour and then sniffing my arm pits. If it's a hot day, might only need it on for 5 mins to get strange smells. If I wear cotton, wool, or silk my sweat seems normal. Hemp is ok too.. But seems to produce a different smell then all the rest.. Could chemicals in the dyes that do it. Think about what most synthetic fabrics are made from. PetroChemicals! Do you really think it's good for you to have poisons against your skin all the time? Just cause we told the way it's made makes it safe doesn't mean it is. It's been what? 100 years ( or less) since people started wearing unnatural fabrics.. How do we know what it does? Lots of otherchanges in that time. I think lots of people have mild alergies to sythetic fabrics but don't realise.I didn't used to believe it at first. But after running lots of tests on myself, this is the answerI came up with. I also find I get cranky and irritable when wearing sythetics next to my skin for any lenght of time. I don't know if this is the same for other people, but wanted to put itout there to think about. Haven't talked to doc about it. It's just easier not to have synthetics in my wordrobe. Especially underwear!
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  • i used to often smell bad (not like cat pee thou but another bad smell) but it seems in my case to be genetic as both one of my daughters and my father emits the same smell. All i can figure it must be cause we dont break down something in our bodies as well. It cleared up a lot (i hardly have it at all nowdays) when i changed my diet and went to eatting mostly vegatables (avoiding meat). i can nowdays thou eat a lot of meat and the smell isnt like it was in the past. This bad smell become worst (not just in amount of smell but like the smell changed for the worst too) at times i was under stress. Ive also found for bad smell using alcohol swabs can hold it at bay longer than most other things. (does this mean there is a bacterial componant to it??). After showering and scrubbing under my arms (i'd actually have to scrub with a brush under arms to get rid of it, just using soap didnt work) bad smell could be back within 5-10 mins but if i used an alcohol swab under my arms.. smell would stay away for a lot longer. i also get a second smell at times nowdays (since i stopped getting the other one.. at least this chemical like smell is a clean one! i dont even use chemicals thou nor chemical deoderants).. that being of like chlorine coming out of my skin (i can smell like a pool). It doesnt happen often thou and this one dont bother me but just is weird.
    taniaaust1 2,267 Replies Flag this Response
  • This is a link that describes the problem you have to a tee. My sweat also smells like ammonia on occasion, mostly when I'm working hard outside or working out. The gist of the article in this link is to add more carbs to your diet, an apple a day keeps the stink away.http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htm
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  • For the 2 athletes on here, more than likely you are completely fine. Sweat will have a urine smell when you are in ketosis. It is not a "healthy" state to always be in, but it happens a lot among athletes, especially when you are on a low-carb diet as well. It is basically the ketones (A byproduct of the liver breaking down fat) being released from your body. Could some of these people be suffering from TMAU? I believe this is what I have & am preparing to see my doctor to confirm it. TMAU is a rare inherited metobolic disorder. I'm 47 & have told my doctor of my symptoms before & he had my kidneys & liver checked & they were ok. My sweat has always smelled like urin, I've had high blood preasure all my life & been taking medicine for it since I was 18. I'm not over weight, but I find the lower my blood preasure is & the less liquids I drink, coupled with the less I sweat, the less persistant the odors are. I do believe some foodshave a significant affect on the degree of the problem. There is no known cure for TMAU, but with a proper diet & otherwise good health, the symptoms seem to be abel to be less intense & somewhat moderate. I just want to find out what is causing my symptoms & then do the best I can to minimize them. The only other things I can think of possibly causing this problem is a bladder , liver, kidney or intestine problem or a digestive, hormone or glandular problem? What is"ketosis"& how common is it among the general population? Sincerely Seeking Answers
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • August 20, 2010
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  • I am in the same boat as you are in . Like you I have symptoms of possible kidney disease although my symptoms are different.The message is is to go to a urologist. :cool:Good luck.
    bigboy 64 Replies
    • August 22, 2010
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  • Hi! I just found this, it is taken from here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article784895.eceThe more androstene that a person’s sweat contains, the greater the potential for him or her to be strong smelling. It has been found that two of the 16-androstene compounds are important in this respect. if there is a predominance of androstenone, the sweat develops an obvious smell of urine. Androstene is a male sex hormone. Do you have acne as well?I have had urine smelling sweat and acne pretty much since i was a kid.. I just got a book called the clear skin diet. Even if you don't get acne from the hormones you should check it out in a library or something. It sais something like "when our blood sugar spikes, we produce insulin and male hormones".. i have a problem with eating sugar.. i get light headed and almost faint sometimes after eating much sugar.. so i think there might be something to this.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • September 29, 2010
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  • Try OXY Clean with your detergent when you wash to remove the smell. I have the same issue with my workout clothes and it really make all the difference. Now I guess I will have to increase my good carbs.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 2, 2010
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