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urine stream changed and causing problems for female 50yrs.

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  • Posted By: fairyqueen123
  • August 21, 2009
  • 11:58 AM

I think my problem may be unusual as I dont see another similar one here. Increasingly, I have had to sit further back on the toilet seat to urinate as my urine stream seems to have got higher over the last year causing sometimes for the urine to go under the seat at the front and onto the floor which is hugely embarrasing and means a clean up each time. I dont have pain,infection or blood or any other symptoms. Would be interested to hear of anyone else with this problem.

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  • I think my problem may be unusual as I dont see another similar one here. Increasingly, I have had to sit further back on the toilet seat to urinate as my urine stream seems to have got higher over the last year causing sometimes for the urine to go under the seat at the front and onto the floor which is hugely embarrasing and means a clean up each time. I dont have pain,infection or blood or any other symptoms. Would be interested to hear of anyone else with this problem.I have the same problem! I am 54 years old and it started happening just recently. Weird. Have you heard from anyone else about this?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 6, 2009
    • 05:42 PM
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  • I have the same problem! I am 54 years old and it started happening just recently. Weird. Have you heard from anyone else about this? No one else but yourself has replied! I've never read about anyone else with the same symptoms so your post has been a comfort in a way to know i'm not alone in this! I wish someone could come up with an answer for us though!
    fairyqueen123 1 Replies
    • October 7, 2009
    • 10:03 PM
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  • No one else but yourself has replied! I've never read about anyone else with the same symptoms so your post has been a comfort in a way to know i'm not alone in this! I wish someone could come up with an answer for us though!That exactly describes me too - but I'm 30. It's been happening on and off for my adult life. I can't figure out why it happens when it does (except maybe I have had to really go). This is the first thing I've been able to find online about it. I wish I knew why it was happening and how to stop it...
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 1, 2009
    • 02:52 AM
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  • i have the same problem. i am 49 and have had this problem for a few years. i talked to a urologist and he recommended sitting on the toilet backwards but doesn't seem to work.I think my problem may be unusual as I dont see another similar one here. Increasingly, I have had to sit further back on the toilet seat to urinate as my urine stream seems to have got higher over the last year causing sometimes for the urine to go under the seat at the front and onto the floor which is hugely embarrasing and means a clean up each time. I dont have pain,infection or blood or any other symptoms. Would be interested to hear of anyone else with this problem.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 16, 2010
    • 08:42 PM
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  • i have the same problem. i am 49 and have had this problem for a few years. i talked to a urologist and he recommended sitting on the toilet backwards but doesn't seem to work.Can any of you please get back to me if you find out how to fix this problem. I am 27 years old and this happens to me as well. It is very embarrassing. I too saw a urologist and he didn't have any answers for me. If any one has an answer, PLEASE post!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 25, 2010
    • 09:33 PM
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  • I have the same problem. I am 27 years old and I have been dealing with this for 8 years. I saw a urologist and he didn't have any answers for me. I have to spray the bottom of the top seat with clorox bleach after every time I pee because my urine was beginning to stain it. Will someone PLEASE post and let us know if this is something we should be concerned about, or if there is any way we can fix it! I'm glad to know there are other women out there with the same issue.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 25, 2010
    • 09:39 PM
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  • I am 42 and have just recently been experiencing this, having to wash the toilet and the floor as well. It is awfully embarrassing and there is nothing about it anywhere. I have just posted the question on Dr. Oz's site, hoping he will find the answer.
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  • Lean forward way forward like palms flat on the floor in front of you forward. Hope that helps.
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  • I've only just come across this thread accidentally, whilst researching some different pee problems of my own. Two things never fail to amaze me. First of all, how unforthcoming, unhelpful and dismissive doctors often seem to be with problems like this. Secondly is the fact that very few women take a lot of notice of their personal equipment. Women's vulvas and vaginas vary infinitely, in size, shape and position. Sadly. it seems that too few women are actually aware of their own particular variation, perhaps thinking there is something dirty or wrong in being (self) familiar with their intimate bits.I'm a bloke (61) with long term kidney and urinary problems myself (which is how I came to be on wrong diagnosis in the first place) but I have been involved with enough women (married twice and too many girlfriends to mention) to have learned a bit along life's way. I can tell you straight away that that my last ex wife (who is 52) has had this problem on and off for years but she doesn't let it worry her. In fact if I use the loo not too long after her and find her pee on the seat just tease her a bit but she still doesn't take the bait.Nevertheless their are a few things which no one seems to write about but that I know really occur in women.How many women are aware that just like a penis varies in size from hour to hour, or day to day etc, so a woman's vulva can and in some women vary in size quite a lot. Excuse me for being so graphic but we are talking Mons to perineum length here. Most women would also be surprised how much that variation can be. That is just one point, which might possibly make a difference in some women and just because it's never been noticed before, things like this can change.Also the angle and/or position (and even the entire appearance) of the outer genitalia (vulva) can and does change in some women for a number of reasons as they age, especially around the time of time of the menopause and after.One woman (just a friend in this instance) told me one day how her pelvic tilt completely changed after giving birth to her last child and how she suddenly gained a visible vulva when she stood up naked, whereas before it was always hidden between her thighs. It seems logical that if the entire vulva is shifted forwards like this, the angle and position of the urethra will follow, causing urine to exit the vulva at a different angle. This friend only discovered the change after seeing her doctor with persistent, post birth backache. When she went home and stood naked in front of a mirror she could see that things had changed.The most likely answer is the probability in most cases that a physical change has naturally occurred in the opening of the urethra (or the angle of) and of course, unless there is actually something physically wrong it will be difficult to prove this. Obviously, if a doctor has checked for anything abnormal or threatening it is still difficult to prove this and may just be down to natural body changes. If so it will then become a case of experimenting and adapting (re-learning pee techniques if you like) until you find what is right for you.Sorry if this lengthy but I hope something here helps.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 24, 2010
    • 10:40 PM
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  • firstly, try standing up to pee. you can aim stream by moving your labia.secondly, if this only seems to occur when you need to also poop or having constipation, then the pressure of bowel against the surrounding organs, like your & vagina. This conditional is caused by childirth strain, lack of esrogen in older women , chronic consitpation, and other conditiions. You may have a rectocele ( a thin weak spot between your vagina/rectal wall) or a cystocele ( a thin weak spot in your bladder wall that allows it to push against the bowel/vaginal organs. I would recommend seeing a gyno/urologist if the issue does not seem to be bowel pressure related. If the problem seems to be mostly when you feel the need to defecate, talk to your gyno doc for a recommendation or see your gastro doc. I think my problem may be unusual as I dont see another similar one here. Increasingly, I have had to sit further back on the toilet seat to urinate as my urine stream seems to have got higher over the last year causing sometimes for the urine to go under the seat at the front and onto the floor which is hugely embarrasing and means a clean up each time. I dont have pain,infection or blood or any other symptoms. Would be interested to hear of anyone else with this problem.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 5, 2010
    • 04:39 PM
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  • That exactly describes me too - but I'm 30. It's been happening on and off for my adult life. I can't figure out why it happens when it does (except maybe I have had to really go). This is the first thing I've been able to find online about it. I wish I knew why it was happening and how to stop it...I am 54. Its been going for me since I was around 50. I think it may have to do with weakening of the muscles in that area. There are some procedures that lift or tuck some of those parts....may want to ask your doctor....some are surgical and one is an inserted device.
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    • October 2, 2010
    • 11:46 AM
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  • I am 72 and since the menopause at about 48 my urine stream started to go through the gap between bowl and seat and onto my knickers, trousers and floor. It was a mystery at first because I always urinate with my legs together and my skirt over my legs and I took it for granted my urine went straight down. I blamed my poor husband at first and accused him of poor aim. He went away for a week on a business trip and I found I was wet and I realised it could not be him. At first it only happened about two or three times a year but during the last year it has been happening nearly every morning. It is very embarrassing and annoying and means I have to clean the toilet and floor and change my knickers and trousers. I started to wear a skirt every day then if I had an 'accident' only my knickers and floor got wet. I tried urinating with my legs together and wide apart and leaning forwards and sitting further back but it did not work. I started to stand up to urinate with a bowl between my legs but when I need a poo in the morning I sit down and my urine comes out which I can't stop and goes under the seat.The doctor said to let the urine trickle out slowly which lowered my stream slightly but some urine was still squirting under the seat.My husband suggested I put a piece of cling film across the gap between seat and bowl which stops my urine from going under the seat. I don't have accidents any more but I wish I knew how to lower my urine stream.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 18, 2010
    • 04:41 AM
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  • I am 61 and I first experienced this problem after I had a new wooden toilet seat fitted. I had no problems with the old plastic seat which was lower down and no visible gap between seat and bowl, but there is about a half inch gap between seat and bowl with the wooden seat. My urine goes under the seat at the front about two or three times a week.Will someone please tell me why it is happening? My daughters and sisters have used the toilet with no problems. I do have to lean back and pee because I have a bad back but my sister has a bad back and she leans back with no problems.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 21, 2010
    • 11:49 PM
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  • i have the same problem. i am 49 and have had this problem for a few years. i talked to a urologist and he recommended sitting on the toilet backwards but doesn't seem to work.OMG, you need to find a new urologist girl. Yeah, we change as we age, my bladder ain't what it used to be, but for him to dismiss you like that is unacceptable. Could be anything from a dropped uterus or bladder, but what a ***k. When you try to find a new uro, always ask the front desk when you make appt if doctor is familiar with this problem. Good luck!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 28, 2010
    • 05:19 PM
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  • I thought I was the only one to suffer from this embarrassing problem. It seems worse first thing in the morning but it can happen at anytime.I was advised to lean forwards and sit further back by my urologist which helped a little but from time to time my urine would find its way under the seat and onto the floor.I am really fed up and feel a freak.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 9, 2010
    • 01:28 AM
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  • Try letting your urine trickle out. Forcing it tends to elevate it somewhat.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 20, 2010
    • 03:58 AM
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  • I'm 68 and my urine stream goes straight down most of the time but I get caught out when it raises itself and squirts under the seat and on to the floor. It has only started doing this in the past 18 months.Any answers please?
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  • OMG I laid in bed last night thinking about this and wanted to get out of bed and search this but decided to wait till morning. I just turned 47 4 months ago and this has been happening to me about 6-8 months but I'm a little different. I did notice it went straight out the other day, even though I was alone I was embarrassed!. How ever mine seem's to do it's own thing, it goes backwards,sideways and straight and never down anymore. I never wipe due to somany UTI infections so I always dab dry, I'll get up thinking I have dried my self enough and find it running down my leg on occasion which is really annoying!. I just married for my first time July 2nd 2011, still a newley wed & thought that maybe my husband caused this problem by using more pressure than any of my past long term boyfriends. I was about to tell him he needs to be easier there LOL!. About the time this started I also noticed a foul smell of my urin which I see there is a topic here on that as well. I am now wondering if the two have something in common? I do think I am going to go to that topic as well and see if any of them have the same problem with their stream. I guess it is very possible the we do age and our body changes more than we wish, I do pray that this is the issue here, I think I'm going to ask my mom if she has this problem as well and see what she say's. I also may write the doctors and ask them, they sure do answer some off the wall questions we all have so maybe I can find an answer for all of us, I will keep you informed.Sheryl
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  • I have had this problem for a year and I think I know the reason. When it started happening I had just woke up after being in a coma for a couple weeks. Every muscle in my body was severely weakened. I bet it is weak kegal muscles. Almost everyone in this blog is over 40 and that is when the kegal muscles weaken. I just started doing exercises to strengthen them so I will post if it has worked.
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  • I am 60 and since the menopause my urine stream is sometimes raised up and finds its way under the toilet seat and onto the floor which is highly embarrassing. It only happens about twice a month. I tried urinating with my knees together which helped but then I could not see if my urine was going under the seat. Sometimes it even wets the back of my trouser legs. I asked my mom and my aunts and they said their urine goes down. I have 4 sisters and their urine goes straight down as do their daughters and my daughters. I know it can happen to males when they sit to urinate if they don't hold their ***** down but only females use my toilet. Jan
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