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20 y/o -- Can't feel empty!

Posted In: Urinary conditions 21 Replies
  • Posted By: Matterx
  • March 17, 2007
  • 07:50 PM

The beginning:

About a month ago I had a really bizarre cold, it wasn't particularly nasty, it just decided to stick around a lot longer than I thought it would. Usually I get over colds in a few days, but this one stuck around for about a week, but oh well.

Anyway, I went to class the following Monday, and noticed that I had to get up in the middle to go pee, and at the time I didn't think anything of it, I figured I was just peeing more because I was drinking a lot of water... but after another week had gone by and the cold was gone, but the constant urination wasn't, I began to suspect something was amiss.

I noticed that I couldn't feel like I'd completely emptied the bladder. I suspected maybe that something was up with my prostate, so I went to go see my GP. He seemed like he was at a loss, he took a urine sample and everything tested negative. He then did a prostate exam, and I noticed that when he touched my prostate it made me feel like I had to pee again, a lot. He also noted that it felt "tender."

Thus, he suspected a prostate infection, and prescribed me Cipro.

Two weeks later, my prescription of Cipro was empty and I didn't feel any better, so I went in to see a urologist on thursday.

He ruled out prostitis, though he mentioned that he thought the prostate felt "boggy" (whatever that means). In fact, the only explanation he seemed willing to admit was overactive bladder, so he gave me a bunch of "Sancturia" pills. The pills seem to take away the urgency, but I still don't feel like I'm emptying the bladder!

The urologist had me go to the bathroom to pee, and then scanned my bladder with some kind of ultrasound or something, and it indicated that my bladder was, in fact pretty much empty.

I don't wake up at night to pee, and it feels like anxiety makes it worse. If I'm just relaxing in my room I can maybe go for an hour or two before I have to pee again, but if I'm in class, or in the car (some place where I feel more anxious), it can be as often as every 30 minutes.

I've always been sort of a frequent pee-er, but as a nervous habit... now it's just so irritating because I haven't felt truely "relieved" in a month now, and nobody seems to have any answers for me!

Anybody got any ideas? Please help, I don't want to go on the rest of my life like this.

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  • I also want to note that I am NOT in pain. There is no burning or irritation (other than mental/psychological irritation)...
    Matterx 5 Replies Flag this Response
  • I cannot offer any help for you, but I can let you know I am suffering from a very similar condition. I am in the process of having just seen a urologist and am starting on a anti-biotic and some sort of specific muscle-relaxer, that targets the prostrate. My bladder is not fully empty after I urinate, but why the Dr. is not yet sure. The feelings you describe are precisely what i feel and I agree thinking about it or getting anxious makes things worse. I've just tried to remind myself i am not going to wet myself; hence, it is less of a worry. I hope these meds help.
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  • You might ask your General Practitioner to do a urine test for protein.You could easily have a chronic kidney problem and if you catch it in time, it may resolve itself. Best wishes
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  • Have you had a blood pressure test recently? High blood pressure can cause frequent urination, as can anxiety. You might want to see a cardiologist just to make sure there is nothing wrong in that department. Also, until you're about 30 or so, the kidneys are constantly producing urine so you could theoretically urinate at any time. If you're actively thinking about it, then chances are it's a psychological thing more than anything else, and that's why you feel you have to go constantly.
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  • WOW...Matterx ..I'm actually glad that I found this post..I was looking for a month for a post with similar simptoms...and finally found it. Lemme describe me in a few words : 30 year old, no pain AT ALL, no burning, constant feeling I have to pee, normally I DON'T pee frequent. I don't think I have a narrow prostate, or something, because If I drink normal ammount of water, I have a normal powerfull stream, but after that, I can stay there for 15 minutes because it seems that always comes a little more. - I also when I'm in a car, the problem is much worse - it's like in a second I will pee (but until now - this was only false alarm) . I thought this is because vibrations, not because of beeing anxious like Matterx said. Because if I press down (where the prostate is - I think) with my hands, or press and move fast, like a massage or vibration :) I also provoke peeing. - 3 urine analysis (in 2 different country) , and ALL negative. - I tried all sort of specialized tea - no results. - I went to 2 doctors, first gave me cipro and other antibiotic - this two worked (or maybe only the cipro). But after this were finished, the simptoms came back. I took again Cipro (by my own) at first it seems it would work again, but after the second box of pills it stoped working. I went to other doctor (in other country) he gave me other pills and some liquid Papaverin ? Or phaveryn ? ( he said this would relax the muscle ) something (I can provide the exact name if you want). At the second visit he gave me again,this time other antibiotic, and this time the simptoms went away like 90 % procent. So, I was better 90 % procent. Everything was almost ok now. But after 2 weeks without medication, the simptoms slowly started to show up again. Terrible. - I hope one of us from here will find the answer and tell the others. Thanks.
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  • UPDATE:Went to the urologist a second time, he scoped my urethra and bladder, and he said everything looked perfectly fine and healthy.He also started me on Flomax, thinking that maybe my Prostate was enlarged (which seems like kind of a stretch for a 20 year old guy, and I don't have nocturia) ... and I've noticed minor improvement, but I still don't ever really feel like my bladder has emptied itself.I can sense the absence of "full" but not empty. Urination is no longer a relief, but a chore--something that must be done.I'm now on both Sanctura and Flomax... the two of them together seem to help me relax quite a bit more... but yeah... still no answer.I'm probably going to dramatically alter my diet and go seek a homeopathic practicioner soon... I'm starting to think that modern medicine may not have an answer for me and that I'll have to search elsewhere...I'd be nice to be able to drive up north and visit my Fargo buddies :(
    Matterx 5 Replies Flag this Response
  • So the Flomax was a bust too.Everytime I go into the bathroom I feel like there's more that needs to come out... but can't, and I can strain and push for 5 minutes, but nothing happens.I went to the urologist for the 3rd (and presumably last) time today, and he's told me that there's nothing more he can do. I've tried medication that targets the bladder, and medication that targets the prostate, and neither did me any good.I've been eating lots of probiotic yogurt for a long time... but still... no improvement... Does anybody have any useful advice for me?
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  • I am going to ask something that maybe you will find strange. Do you ever feel something strange in your foot more exactly on the sole. Hard to explain. Like you feel cold on your feet, even if it's summer and if you try with your hand, you feel like the foot have a normal temperature (or even it's warm). In my case I think this feeelings are strangely connected with my urinating problem. And in days when the problem is worse, the strange feeling on my foot is also more pronounced . I bought a little electric blanket and If I stay with my foot on that blanket (especially if I stay 8 hours on a computer) it definitelly improves something. I feel like 50 procent better. Very strange..I don't know the explanation.
    georgemm 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • it seems that I found the only medicine that works for me. When I say it works, I mean it improves my condition like 60 or 70 % procent. Even that is better than nothing . The medicine is called Paveriwern and it is a german I think. You can look it up on google, maybe. Let me write the active ingredient also : fuid extract from schlafmohnkraut (translate it with google) . It is a plant. And my doctor told me that it doesn't have any secondary effect. Because it is only a plant working like a sedative, only localized on the prostate thing. It even has a picture on the box showing the whole urinary tract..or something. It is a little expensive , like 20 Euro, and it only last one week or maybe 2. I need to take 40 drops at once (it's a liquid) - and 3 times per day. But I discovered that even 2 times per day works. Sometimes it makes you a little sleepy. - Now I also trying FLOMAX, because everyone saiz on the internet that it is the wonder medicine. But I am taking from 3 days now, without any improvement beside the already ones from Paveriwern. - I will reply 2 or 3 weeks later here, about the flomax.
    georgemm 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hey SERIOUSLY plz keep up this post. I have the exact same thing. I'm 24yr, male, and the urologist says that everything is healthy. I am so scared, and i know that something isnt right. Let us know what you find out
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 18, 2007
    • 06:37 AM
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  • I've got the same problem - started about a year ago after a few days of drinking and poor hygiene on a camping trip. I don't know if it's related, but it seems awfully coincidental.Over the past year I've done everything - STD tests, urinalyses, prostate exams, cystoscopy, all negative. I've taken all kinds of anti-biotics and anti-spasmodics - doc says theres not much more he can do.The strange thing is it seems to get worse after a bowel movement. I wonder if there could be something else at play.
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  • I have a similar problem. It started gradually over a year or so, almost as if my muscles are getting weaker. I need to press down with my abdomen muscles when urinating. I hold my breath and push, then relax, then I do it again until nothing is left. Has anyone found any exercises that help? It has nothing to do with relaxing the muscles, I can do that, but the urine just doesn't seem to push out. If anyone has anything similar, and found a treatment let me know.
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  • 22/yo male responding here.I seriously hope you havent given up. I had same issue for past two years, most urologists are not familar with issues that effect young adults, because we are pretty rare. Had same symptoms of tightness low flow squeezing feeling in penis, etc. Misdiagnosed with non bacteria prostatits, over active bladder, etc. Go to a university hospital and get the name of their urologist that specializes in "voiding dysfunction". There may only be one in the whole hospital. Yes, all urologists are not the same, i had to go through 4.You need a pressure flow test done on your bladder, what they do is stick a cath in your rectum, and one through your penis into your bladder, they fill it up with fluid and measure your bladder pressure capacity etc than urinate. When your urinating it measures the pressure of your flow, and the rate. This is important because at our age we should have low pressure high flow with no obstruction. Make sure you get as much fluid in the bladder as you can stand so you can get an accurate measurement. If you have High pressure low flow, yes there is a problem.Next you need the same "voiding dysfunction" urologist to scope you. It does not matter your other uro saw "nothing", most uros look for strictures cancers and obvious obstructions, and do this quickly. If you had odd results on the pressure flow test and you have no obvious obstructions he will focus on your bladder neck muscles while scoping. Nothing was found in 3 scopings until i had a pressure flow test than was scoped by the voiding dysfunction urologist. I was finally diagnosed with bladder neck hypertrophy which is the same as bladder outlet obstruction, its rare and only occurs in young adults, both female and male. General urologists are ususally not familar with it and it wont even cross their minds. Basically the bladder neck itself is the obstruction from extra muscle growth, which leads to the squeezing feeling and consist urge to pee and feeling of incomplete emptying.If this is found to be the cause, all you need is a minor incision made in your bladder neck and its like you never had a problem at all.Im not saying this is your problem, but i had the same exact issues and got the run around from all the uros that there was nothing wrong and didnt even suggest doing a pressure flow test.But seriously, be persistant get a full urodynamic workup done with the pressure flow test and seek out a urologist that specializes in voiding dysfunction.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 31, 2008
    • 08:48 PM
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  • Yep i have the same problem, no pain, no stinging, no burning sensation and no relief. Do i really need surgury? (probably misspelled) and how in world do i convince my doctor that i need that. Now remember i live in Denmark so i can't use your doctors or go to your hospitals. I've looked up voiding dysfunction and........ What??? blood in my urin? i've never even almost had that. Cure please.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 27, 2009
    • 11:23 AM
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  • Hi fellas sorry to interupt the prostrate talk but I am a senior female who has sufferd with a full bladder feeling and a brain message telling me to pee urgently Trying to live life when all you can think of is your water works is not fun. You guys have been thinking Prostrate because you are males. My symptons went on for two years with the only releif sometimes was when I was taking Antibiotics for Urinary infection This did give me releif while on Antibiotics but back to the "I need to Pee' feeling when I stopped medications. I have experimented with diet Firstly looking at a Alkaline diet which did not help at all Then I tried a natural diet just meat and fruit and vegies with nothing artificial or chemical. Even gave up alcahol because I felt this made matters worse. Then the lightbulb moment came when I filled up with Pasta and Garlic Bread when I was eating out I again felt so Pee Bound that I did not think I could suffer this feeling much longer I do not know why but I got onto GLUTON FREE EATING which is again a learning experience and for the first time in two years I have been able to think of things besides my bladder. The only symptoms I get now is when I make a mistake and eat something with GLUTON Don't know why this works for me but it does. Yes I have been tested by Urologists inside and out hd accupuncture and Naturapaths and Ultrasounds and all appeared normal. I really thought I was going insane I have been Gluton free for 3 months now and Symptom free. Also I am more energetic. my aching joints feel better and my mood is improved. Give it a try it can do you no harm and may work
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 28, 2009
    • 09:45 AM
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  • So the Flomax was a bust too.Everytime I go into the bathroom I feel like there's more that needs to come out... but can't, and I can strain and push for 5 minutes, but nothing happens.I went to the urologist for the 3rd (and presumably last) time today, and he's told me that there's nothing more he can do. I've tried medication that targets the bladder, and medication that targets the prostate, and neither did me any good.I've been eating lots of probiotic yogurt for a long time... but still... no improvement... Does anybody have any useful advice for me?I don't know if this helps but I have bladder issues as well. I have been reading about a lot of different disorders. There is a disorder that is called cystitis. It's caused by food irratating your bladder. This can cause the lining of the bladder to eventually wear a way in places but can also just cause you to feel like you have to go when you've eaten the food/foods that cause irritation. There are two food changes you can try. The first is to lower acidity in your bladder. Look up cysitis diets on google. The other is to get allergy tested for food allergies. A food allergy to wheat or milk or another food can cause the same symptoms in the bladder. I hope this helps. It seems like a good starting point if you want to try something new. Especially if yougert isn't helping. Yougert is bann on the cysitis diet because it raises acidity of urine. Good Luck :)
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 18, 2009
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  • I know these posts are pretty old, but in case someone is here looking for answers, those symptoms can sometimes point to Interstitial Cystitis which is what I have. It's pretty tough to diagnose and a lot of urologists do a bad job of that, I had to fight the doctors to get them to diagnose and treat me, everyone just said they didn't know what was wrong. Sometimes it causes pain, but for me my main symptom was that my bladder would feel full even when it wasn't, after being put on a bunch of pills I've gotten a whole lot better, I actually feel relieved after I pee now, which I didn't for months. There is a diet that can help, but in my experience most of the things on there didn't affect my bladder, and there's no scientific basis for most of the things on that diet, it's not very healthy, it eliminates tons of foods. The only thing that really bothers my bladder is citrus and things like strawberry and kiwi, nothing else on their "bad foods" list affects my condition. Don't stop fighting for an answer, no one should have to live like that.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 4, 2009
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  • 22/yo male responding here.I seriously hope you havent given up. I had same issue for past two years, most urologists are not familar with issues that effect young adults, because we are pretty rare. Had same symptoms of tightness low flow squeezing feeling in penis, etc. Misdiagnosed with non bacteria prostatits, over active bladder, etc..What urologist did you see specifically, city, state, name of Dr(s). Many thanks
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 15, 2009
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  • 22/yo male responding here.I seriously hope you havent given up. I had same issue for past two years, most urologists are not familar with issues that effect young adults, because we are pretty rare. Had same symptoms of tightness low flow squeezing feeling in penis, etc. Misdiagnosed with non bacteria prostatits, over active bladder, etc.Also would you please be willing to contact me via email for some additional questions?cmf0106@gmail.com if you are willing to thank you.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 15, 2009
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  • Hi, I was having the same problem these past few days, and I've had it before as well. Ive never had this problem very long, and never as bad as yesterday and today, but I was having trouble feeling like my bladder was empty. I didn't go to the doctor, so I do not know if my bladder was actually empty, or if the symptom and solution I'm about to suggest is psychosomatic or what. I hope you realize I am being totally serious in suggesting it, and not playing games with anonymity on the internet.For some reason, I think in my case masturbation is related. I say this because whenever Ive tried putting off this part of my life for a few days, I always have seen improvement in my condition. Again, I do not know if this is psychosomatic, or if there is a real physical reason as to why that is. In this particular case, I gave it a day or two after first getting the symptom, and as I'm writing this post I've felt significant improvement, and I suspect the symptom will completely disappear the next time I try to empty my bladder.For some reason though, I think my case is different, because I think my bladder really was not empty. I believe this because my symptom gradually began to feel improvement, and each time I went to relieve myself, I relieved more urine with each sign of improvement. So I do not know if our problems are the same. But I know how irritating it is to feel this way, and I hope this suggestion helps. I'm not saying never masturbate, I'm just saying whenever you get this symptom, maybe put it off a few days, and see if this coincides with a sign of improvement.Again, this is an honest suggestion, I'm not trying to be weird here.good luck.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 6, 2010
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