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Erythema Annulare Centrifugum

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • July 21, 2006
  • 03:21 PM

My wife have EAC, there is so much information on the net but there is not really any info about how to threat it.. some Dr. say it is food related, some say it has to do with stress, some say that is comes from insect bites... i really just want to know how to cure it so my wife can be happy again.
any info related to the cure can be mailed to me.

with kind regards
khalid
from Amsterdam, Netherlands.

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  • Hi Just read your post. I just seen the dermatologist for the 3 time and today he now feels that I also have Eac. It started in June of 2006 and I feel it was from a bug bite. The mark on my leg started as a small mark and then became as large as a jam jar cover. After visits to the Dr he sent me to the specialist who did not really know either. Said it was eczema and now today he says it is EAC. How did your wife make out? How did she treat it? Did they every pin point the cause? Sorry for all the questions. My legs are a mess, I have round marks on both legs now and sometimes very hard to walk with slacks on.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 27, 2006
    • 09:37 PM
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  • Hi,My dad had EAC for a while and only now they called it that. They did a biopsy to rule out cancer and now they are repeating it in case they missed something the first time. It doesn't seem to be that.He had a team of doctors look at his back and legs and none of them could come up with any treatment that works.I am trying to locate an expert on the subject or a medical center that does relevant clinical trials. If you know anything about either one, please post the info.Thanks!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 7, 2007
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  • let your wife know she's now alone..I have been diagnosed with EAC by one doctore & generalized Morphea by another. Either way I believe what's going on with my body on the outside is a manifestation of something going internally and I'm having a hard time cause every time I test for something, it comes back negative..I have zero self esteem, feel like damaged goods & losing hope..but I know I need to be strong and altering diet and mind set is the first step to something I suppose. good luck spottedgypsy
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    • January 9, 2007
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  • I know how you feel with the frustration. My legs have been pretty much healed up for a month and now this week they are starting again to flair up. I have the marks from where they have been. The mark on the inner thigh looks like I was hit with a fast baseball, it is so huge! I have numerous marks on my legs the size of of toonies (Canadian, can't yu tell!) I have been putting betaderm ointment which my dermatologist gave me. I have been thinking of using a tanning bed to see if it will even out my skin, any suggestions on that? or experience? I have booked for a Florida trip, I think I am a bit crazy. Looking forward to the trip, I guess I will have to wear long skirts to cover my legs. The dermatologist said that they would clear up and then come back because my immune system is fighting what has upset my system. I had blood work done but nothing had been flagged. I did have a high prolatin and difficult getting pregnant. I have always been very irregular and wondering if maybe my hormones are upsetting this. Also I hate the thoughts of other reasons this could be appearing. I have had a pain in my breast for about 1 1/2 year, had a mamogram and everything came back fine. I keep telling myself that it is hormonal. Which is probably is, but one does worry, why is this happening!! If I get any thing that finally works, I will let you know. A lady on another site in which I made connection is mailing me some cream to try....Here is praying!!!
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    • January 21, 2007
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  • I have it as well and as far as I have been able to determine talking to doctors, and my own feeble research nobody knows what causes it and noboby knows how to cure it. When it does flare up I use Clobetasol Propionate cream on the affected areas and within a few days the redness and itching goes away.
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    • February 7, 2007
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  • Is the Clobetasol Propionate cream something that you buy over the counter? My legs are starting to flare up again. It would be great if I could find something that takes the redness and calms it down. They just start to calm down and look like they are going to heal and then they start all over again. Also has anyone experienced shortness of breath with this? I have been having shortness of breath and have to take a puffer and this has been since all this problem. I still feel this is from a bug bite!!!!
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    • February 8, 2007
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  • Hi all, I'm new and I would like to share my experience with you. I'm 30 and healthy, no history of serious illness. I arrived in Japan few months ago to live with my husband. Well, I enjoy onsen (hot tube bath) here and almost everyday I went there. But I hope it is not the reason of my disease. One morning I woke up and I found some rashes (round and multiforms) on my arms and upper thighs without ich. They appear, fade out and reappear. After that my left shoulder joint started getting painful and then my right thigh, my ankle, and left knee. The pain seems to shift from different joints on my body. I cannot walk, sweat at night and often wake up at early morning.I have visited different doctors and they did so many tests (blood tests, urin tests, electrocardiograph, x-ray, bone cintigraphy, abdorminal ultrasound...) and still could not find out my disease. I took some pain killer and I get better, can walk and do some normal work. Now I stop taking medicine as the doctor found that it affects to my liver. But then I get joint pain again. I was hopeless and worried. Two days ago, I just found a dermatologist and he diagnosed that my problem is Erythema Annulare centrifugum. He gave me an anti-allergy medicine (Alesion) and vitamine E for blood circulation, Flumeta cream 0.1% for applying to the rashes. I am getting better now and the rashes are slowly fadding out. But my joints remain painful. I am following his treatment and I hope that i will get well soon. Do anyones have the same problem as mine? I really want to search for information about this disease but there is so little information on net. I will update my situation and good luck to all of you.
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  • I can add to the topic some of the things I've been dealing with as regard to my EAC.My symptoms actually started very long time ago as I started getting these strange marks on my skin back in '89 - so I've been 'suffering' from EAC in now more than 18 years. (I guess this is a bit above average)At first my doctor tried to treat me with cortisone based products - it did the trick for some time, but the symptoms came back (and was a lot worse) when I stopped the treatment.I was then send to various experts and recieved numerous different treatments and diagnoses without much luck. I didn't get the correct diagnose before I went to my 3rd dermatologist, so I probably didn't get the correct diagnose until the 2nd year.(have had a number of biopsies over the years)None of the dermatologist hadn't seen this kind of skin rash before, so it might be that some areas of the world is not that familiar to the disease.I've been examined/treated for the disease by pills, creams, have had my skin checked for various allergies, etc.I have had a period in those 18 years where all symptoms have been gone for about 3 months. It happened last year when I tried the Atkins diet for a period of 4 months, so I'm sure that the diet had something to do with this.I personally don't have the time/patience/etc to start reducing/removing parts of my food chain to provoke the removal of my symptoms, but it could be a suggestion for you to use as a treatment for EAC.
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  • Has anybody noticed a connection between EAC and Irritable Bowel Syndrome and the use of Mebeverine/Colofac ?I've had EAC for 12 years or so, getting increasingly worse. During that time I have suffered from stress-induced IBS and taken Colofac.I have just begun to question this medication and have checked around on the net - I found that Colofac can cause skin itching, rashes and weals - sounds rather like EAC doesn't it ? I stopped taking Colofac a week ago and am trying herbal remedies, hoping that the skin condition will fade away...........
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  • I am a 42 year old female and have had eczema all my life. I was diagnosed with oral Herpes at age nine and genital at age 30, for which I was prescribed Valtrex. I have also had migraines since I was 17 and have modified my diet to reduce sodium and preservatives. I've been treated for allergies and use Nasalcort and Guaife as allergy prescriptions. For the last 2-3 years I have been having significant pain in my right elbow, so much so, I can not hold a gallon of milk and have a hard time holding any weight in that arm for more than a couple of minutes and this pain is moving into my shoulder. Sometimes I have a hard time walking and must immediately stop for a couple minutes until the pain subsides. I also get leg cramps in my sleep. I have had some facial twitching... sometimes in the area around my eyes, sometimes lip area, sometimes even random areas on an arm or leg. Frequently my fingertips and/or parts of my face feel numb or asleep. I have a normal menstral cycle, except this last month. Sometimes I get extremely sharp pain, as if someone is pulling a needle and thread slowly through my insides. I often feel very lethargic a have a hard time falling asleep. One doctor suggested I was depressed. I assure you I am not, I am just frustrated by my health or lack there of. Last year I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and was prescribed Levothyroxin, which they still have not figured out the proper prescription. This drug has helped with the numbness and twitching, but I think it is contributing to an upset stomach. August 8th, 2007 I was diagnosed with Erythema Annulare Centrifugum. This is not the first time I had this rash. Last year I had it biopsied as a type of dermititus. At this point my rash is located on both breasts. It started on one breast approximately 2-3 years ago. Originally diagnosed as ringworm. I have annual mammograms and clear results. One thing that sticks out in my mind is mole removed near my breast that came back a precancerous in 2000. The mole has started to come back, but so far the doctors aren't concerned. Also, every time I get sick, the lymphnodes in my neck swell like Frankenstein's bride and the doctors want to diagnose me with mono, which I had in my teens. This is crazy! I'm hoping there is a doctor that can properly diagnose me and get this under control. From what I have read and my gut instinct, I believe I may have a more serious underlying disease that just has not been diagnosed. I hope to have more information with my next mammogram August 27th. I am a faithful person and trust in God's will. I pray that in sharing this and if we have similar symptoms, we can inform our doctors and help find a cure. God Bless!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 11, 2007
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  • HI to all fellow sufferers.I have had two episodes of this erythema type, both episodes started 2 - 4 months after both my children were born. The outbreak starts with a terrible migrain , followed by blisters ( zoster-like) on my upper body and followed then by erythema annulare centrifugum. Severe urticaria!!!! So severe that I had to be rushed to the ER for cortisone shots as the rash reached my face, tongue and throat! I have seen 2 dermatologists and another internal medicine specialist, all are baffled and tried 5 skinbiopsies to no avail!The frist episode was treated with constant cortisone for 5 months, until the outbreak subsided, and this time- 3 years later, it seems much worse!!! I hate cortisone... and believe that we are still staring ourselves blind to alleviate the symptoms instead of treating the problem! EAC is just a term to define the type of skinrash - It is not a disease in itself!!!! It could be the symptom of another disease - your bodies' way to show you the red flags going up to indicate a serious problem. I am a firm believer that God could be working through this episode in my life, and that I am still going to find the answers that I am looking for, or at least help others... recently , I went for a SCIO analysis, where the mashine indicated a severe pathogenic load or infection. Sheep liver fluke, candida, parasite or bacterial activity - all in the liver . Could this be something to trigger EAC?? Yes, I believe so!! Doctors are not all experts in parasites and tend to overlook this.Can anyone comment on some of these possible diagnosis for me?
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  • I have also been diagnosed with EAC. I have had it for 8 months and have had multiple tests and everything comes back negative. Just when I think something is working it gets worse. This is very frustrating as you all can understand. I have some various symtoms and I feel they are all connected. Some are as followed: shortness of breath, joint pain, and fevers. The spots themselves itch, burn, and are generally uncomfortable. Some of the stages are more uncomfortable than others. If anybody can offer me some feedback I would greatly appriciate it.
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    • January 3, 2008
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  • Hi, I think I have EAC based on what I've read on the internet and here. I am menopausal, so don't think hormones are involved (although they still could be). I have severe joint pain in my thumbs/wrists and in my shoulders which has been going on for months and now I have developed this rash. It started with one round spot on my thigh then one on my upper arms and now its on sides of my back and stomach. It itches and seems to be spreading. I had a different kind of rash when I was younger and found it was triggered by chocolate. This doesn't seem to be food related as I haven't changed my diet and I eat healthy and exercise. The joint pain keeps me from sleeping well the the itching is annoying. I picked up some oral benadril and some hydrocortizone cream. Has anyone had any luck with vitamins? I totally new to this and would appreciate any help. Thanks.
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    • February 8, 2008
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  • i have not been diagnosed but it would appear i may have this EAC. i haven't found any secret cure but for some crazy reason, it disappears temporarily if i aplly t-sal shampoo to the affected area. (yes thats dandruff shampoo) like i said, it comes back but i haven't tried it long enough to know if it will continue to work with use. hope this helps someone!
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  • Hi Everyone,I have had EAC my whole life. When I was a child I was misdiagnosed with ringworm...a dermatologist diagnosed me with EAC when I was 16, I'm now 24. I was never tested for an underlying reason for EAC, live cultures seem to be what triggers my breakouts. I've only had a period of several months total my whole life when I have been breakout free. What helps for me is to use tea tree oil on the lesions, this takes away the itch and the redness. I also use all natural oatmeal soaps, and rub the spots with a vitamin e oil. I altered my diet to cut out most cultures and yeasts. To date, I have not been able to pin point everything that triggers my breakouts. I think that stress and hormones might be a trigger - I was doing really well and then overnight I broke out worse than I ever have before. If anyone has any more information, found a specialist or a really good website I would appreciate the information. It's good to know that I'm not alone with the struggle of dealing with EAC.
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  • My dermatologist diagnosed me with ESD. Previously I had seen the family doctor for a very long time with no results. My dermatologist is renown for his success with treating ESD. He prescribed me Prednisone 20mg. Take 3 tabs per day for first 7 days, Take 2 tabs per day for next 7 days, Take 1 tab per day for last 7 days. Seems to work great!
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  • Dear fellow EAC champs,I have had EAC for over 26 years now that has gotten progressively worse, but we have made recent progress in controlling it. My case has been labeled by several dermatologists as "severe" as it is chronic now and often covers both legs, feet, my back and some on my tummy. It started on a much smaller scale on my hands. I am soon to be 58 years old, so this has been an issue for me for a large part of my life.For you "rookies", this is a rare condition that many dermatologists rarely see, so don't be distracted by the fact that your general practitioner doesn't recognise it. Over the years I've learned a lot about "MY" EAC, but yours will probably be entirely different since it is a reaction to something wrong in your system. It took me 15 years to find a doctor that had a name for it, and the last eleven years have been a scavenger hunt to find the issue(s) causing mine. I had a chronic yeast infection that caused no symptoms and it was a struggle for three years to get that cured. Once that was gone, I suspected an allergy to cultures because eating cheeses, breads (especially fresh baked products), and wine and beer all caused me to break out. I tried for one year to avoid foods with cultures. That is difficult as so many dishes have cheeses, bread, or other cultured products in them. After one year I very gradually reintroduced them and it did help desensitize me. In recent years though I have been broken out almost all the time, so we have decided to check my allergies. Testing revealed I'm allergic to mold (a cultured item!) and dust mites, but I also know that I have a sensitivity to pigments and dyes. (My eyes burn in small or crowded fabric, carpet, or clothing stores.) Allergy testing doesn't include the pigments and dyes because they cannot treat that with shots. It is purely an avoidance treatment.So, I'm am now in the first months of allergy shots for the dust mites and molds. This might take years. As for the dyes and pigments, I now use "Free" laundry detergents and softeners. That was a HUGE step in the right direction that I had never considered before until I talked to the allergist. I laugh about the dust mites, because with my skin peeling like it does, I probably have the best fed dust mites around! I turned up my hot water tank and wash all my clothes and linens in hot water to kill the mites. I use special anti-mite covers on my mattress and on ALL pillows on our bed. I even have a traveling set for motels. Since going to bed was a nightmare for me for years, finding relief with these measures has been very welcome. Recently, I stayed in a place that had down-filled sofa pillows and boy did I break out! So, bed is not the only place for dust mites. We are now trying to sell our house to get one with no carpet in it for this very reason. Wish us luck in this economy! I currently take Zyrtec, but suspect they might change me to the new version that is not OTC. My Rx provider would not approve it until we tried the Zyrtec. Most lotions burn my EAC, and this is probably because of the dyes, pigments, etc. in them. So I recently bought an Aveeno product that is "Free". It has really helped me. I could open a lotion store with all the stuff I've tried over the years.I guess my point is that I encourage each of you to continue searching for your issues. Sometimes a complete work-up of lab tests and x-rays will show something you are not aware of. One dermatologist told me it could be anything from chronic athlete's feet to cancer. My tests all came back fine every time I went to a new dermatologist, but each wanted to check for the "obvious". Unfortunately some gave up when that didn't provide the answer. If that happens, move on to another dermatologist. Fortunately I finally found one who is fighting hard for me to get the answers. I thank the Lord daily for the TEAM that is working to help me with EAC. It includes my dermatologist, the allergy staff, and my family. I hope you find a team for you!
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  • Sugaard - thank you so much for your response. It's good to know that there is some hope out there. With all the the social status images flying at young women, it's very difficult to face having a 'condition' that, as I say, makes me feel like a leper.
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  • Hello fellow EAC sufferers,I have had EAC for over 10 years now, although it was misdiagnosed until just a few months ago. I was told I had a systemic fungal infection (AKA ringworm) and would probably have the nasty and contagious fungus for the rest of my life. This was quite distressing news for a newly single 30-something. After taking every anti-fungal medication for 5 years and probably killing half of my liver in the process, I finally gave up and resolved myself to living with ringworm rather than dating. 10 years later, I find out it is EAC. Not a contagious fungus (great news!) but it may be caused by something more serious like cancer or lupus or a zillion other malicious diseases. After spending a week in an internet-searching state of maniacal hypochondria trying to diagnose my underlying disease, I finally accepted my doctors advice and decided not worry about it. He ordered some tests to rule out the worst (which I am still working through) and so far I do not have hodgkins disease, thyroid disease, or HIV. I have accepted the fact that most people never find out the underlying cause and try not to worry about it. My EACs symptoms are as follows: each patch seems to itch severly for the first year or two while it is expanding, then it turns into a really deep ache under my skin. In the last several years, I also have developed an "achey" sort of malaise or fatigue that affects my whole body. I just get "achey" all over, it lasts for a few months, and then it seems to go away. Oh, and my hands and feet swell up for no apparent reason. I have no idea if my "achey" fatigue is related to the EAC, but I feel like it is. Several others have posted that they have irritable bowl syndrome, and so I should add that to my list although I have never considered it related to my skin. I just can not eat broccoli, bell peppers, and certain fibrous veggies. So now that I know what it is, I focus on controlling the symptoms. Over the years (when I thought it was ringworm) I tested EVERY home remedy I heard about. What works for me is UVB light treatment, Ketoconazole cream, and a low carb diet. I also take a lot of advil. I also take a ton of vitamin b (all of them), c, D, E,iron, and, omega 3. A came up with a super inexpensive UV light treatment that anyone can afford (around $25 at the pet store). You need a UVB reptile light bulb (same as you would use in a lizard cage), a light socket with a clamp, and eye protection goggles. I use it for about 15-20 minutes and it works wonders. I know that UVB can cause skin cancer, but so can UVA, red dye# 1, red meat, and my cell phone. I really don't care because this light treatment works so well for me that it is worth the risk. The light stops the itching, the aching, and seems to give me some sort of energy. Maybe I am part lizard...who knows!I take advil every day now, as the "achey fatigue" seems to creep up on me when I don't. The low carb diet works well for me though I have no idea why. I do really well on a high protein diet with supplements to make up for my lack of veggies. But when I overdose on cake and ice cream, I get very lethargic and my rash turns firey red and starts to itch like crazy. I think my blood sugar jumps and it affects the rash. I have read that there is a connection between pre diabetes and EAC. Anyways, I hope that these details are helpful to others. This is a stressful disease. In fact, they will probably do some test and tell us that EAC is caused by stress. LOL. It is a mystery. All I know is that it could be worse, and I am thankful that it's not. Plenty of people on the planet suffer far worse than I do with this rash of circles. P.Thompson
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    • October 5, 2008
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  • I have had EAC on my hand. Started from the size of a small mosquito bite to about 2 inch dia red ring clearing peripherally. I also did take Mebeverine for some time before this started.. but dont know whether that was the reason. No itch or scaling. Doctors gave me steroids/ prednisolone and wysomol. It seemed to work as long as i was on steroids but rashes would reappear once the course was completed. I also have IBS, joint pain and headache.. I know its very frustrating not to have a clear diagnosis. But i took bitter gourd as a herbal medicine for rash. It worked. rashes disappeared after a two-three weeks. i used to boil one bitter gourd and take the soup and boiled bittergourd separately every night before dinner.Hope it will work for you too.
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    • December 16, 2008
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