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A very interesting case "part 2"

Posted In: Skin conditions 6 Replies
  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • July 30, 2007
  • 01:22 PM

As I don't know why my new post is so delayed, I hope opening new thread won't have the same problem!!!
She might be allergic to Vitamin C. I think she has a collagen problem.
She should try NAET and try to increase her Vitamin C to bowel tolerance. If she has no bowel tolerance then she really need to go for NAET, ASAP.
Vitamin C and Collagen disorders are on the rise.
I am sure she has other symptoms.

Best,
Frui.
Dear Eatafruit,
grazie molto,
you said she might be allergic to vitamin C, meanwhile you adviced to increase her daily intake, I don't get the point.
Anyhow, she's doing great with vitamin C, even she rubs her skin with lemon!!!
Regarding, NAET, I don't trust the method at all, and this site may explain why:
http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/naet.html
Thanks amigo again
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The skin disorder is called Leiodermia and means abnormal smoothness and glossiness of the skin.

Here is comprehensive information on thyroid disease, written by doctors for doctors treating patients. It still is possible that your patient has thyroid problems even though tests are "normal." I know I went undiagnosed for 30 years because my tests were "normal." I suffered for all those years.

http://www.thyroidmanager.org/
Dear Dxd,
really your contribution is very valuable, it's amazing how often we know the disease, yet still no treatment is available.
as soon as i read your quote, i ordered another detailed thyroid profile, including free T3, free T4, and TSH.
what do you advice if they appeared to be normal, esp. she feels discomfort in her thyroid region, yet nothing abnormal clinically, she also prefers cold weather, hates hot one but no abnormal sweating at all, some times she experiences shaking of hands esp. if she's on a diet or stress.
the site is very good but nothing is available for leiodermia.
thanks again.
I think I would order a lead poisoning and carbon mononxide test. I think it's environmental but could be hormones or anything.
Dear Monsterlove,
thanks for your continuous contributions,
i'm totally sure, it has nothing to do with CO or Fe poisoning.
she asked if it may be related to female sex hormones, what do you think?
Best Regards for you all,
Dr. Leonardo.

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  • I'm eagerly waiting for your comments.Merci beaucoup.
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  • The rebuttal on NAET is one website for the whole internet!!!!!!Besides that bitter guy who obviously did not understand the fundaments, you won't find complaints.The author of that article does not understand the actual theory of molecular biology.Think about it- she is putting vitamin c on her skin, but is the skin absorbing it? How do you know she is doing well with vitaminC? Because she says so? She might have a hunch for her defficiency- she might be trying to compensate but if her body is rejecting it - the vitamin C won't be processed by the body. You use the comments of one person and you don't read the comments on everyone who is happy with NAET How does your logic work?How is that guys writtings on NAET more valid than my comments.He probably didn't have a single treatment. I had 15 NAET treatments. I had a liver problem, I had multiple food allergies, neurological disorders, sleep disorders, hormonal disorders, even my interleukins and interpherons and T-cells were messed up.NAET worked on all that- like nothing else can.As far as the vitamin allergy goes- some people show a bad reaction and they will be defficient until the NAET treatment but others can tolerate it but they absorb less of it than what is given.Why don't you trust NAET? Because it shows a new approach?Where do you live? In France? There are so many NAET doctors in Europe, just in case and the Annual Symposium is taking place in France in September.Remember collagen, and skin...and vitamin C and Calcium...remember College? how are they related? I hope you didn't flunk that class.Bonna Nuit.****e (does that mean good luck?)Frui.Do you know that neurotransmitters are not subjected to hormonal activities but it is the other way around?Neurotramsitters will influence the metabolism or production of collagen or any other substance by the cells. Neurotramsitters are less specialized than hormones and they have multiple capabilities.You guys are just sticking to hormones because it give you confidence that you can 'count and track' their activities, but that's just an illusion.Diseases that don't have a cure can't prove to be real diseases.A condition that is correctly evaluated and treated- that is story of success.Are you so arrogant that you won't look into NAET? You preffer to wait for the collagen bonding of the internal organs of your patient start doing the same thing that her skin is doing and when you find clots and leaks inside of her, you will say desole, I can't help you?What if the only thing that you don't look into is what can help a patient...what do you say? too bad?
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  • Dear Eatafruit,well well well, i really much like those who defend what they believe to be right with all their souls.unfortunately, i just picked the wrong site i guess:D my dear really i won't let a door i can knock without knocking it, but right now i live in Egypt, no persons know any thing about NAET, who knows? i may go to Europe and get another M.D. in this branch of alternative medicine, as i found such a great defender like you.yes, we like to count on hormones, don't really trust alternative medicine methods, but this doesn't mean i'm totally oppenent. no i will try to look it more deeply.thanks again my dear friend, pray we may find a solution before such an internal damage occurs.;) and by the way, i never missed such an important class:)
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  • As I don't know why my new post is so delayed, I hope opening new thread won't have the same problem!!!Dear Dxd,really your contribution is very valuable, it's amazing how often we know the disease, yet still no treatment is available. as soon as i read your quote, i ordered another detailed thyroid profile, including free T3, free T4, and TSH.what do you advice if they appeared to be normal, esp. she feels discomfort in her thyroid region, yet nothing abnormal clinically, she also prefers cold weather, hates hot one but no abnormal sweating at all, some times she experiences shaking of hands esp. if she's on a diet or stress. the site is very good but nothing is available for leiodermia.thanks again. Best Regards for you all, Dr. Leonardo.You are welcome!Hypoglycemia is a symptom of thyroid disease too. That might be the shaking of hands when on a diet or stressed.The other thing about thyroid disease is no two people have the same symptoms. Which makes diagnosing it difficult. A well versed endocrinologist should be able to sort out things though.Oh I knew that about the leiodermia. I found it on the web by doing some research. I love research and can find most anything through search engines. I found it online by searching with these words: "abnormally soft, smooth skin."You know there is this one type of thyroid disease which I recently read about. You can have hyper and hypo symptoms simultaneously and they cancel each other out. Therefore the thyroid test would be normal. Essentially, the patient would be euthyroid.Links on H a s h i t o x i c o s i s or overlap of Hashimoto's with Grave's Disease:"Clinical manifestations of the disorder are variable and include euthyroidism, subclinical hypothyroidism , permanent hypothyroidism and, less commonly, transition from hyperthyroidism to hypothyroidism or vice versa. Overlap of Hashimoto's thyroiditis with the extrathyroidal manifestations of Graves' disease is not unusual."http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/2000/01_00/fatourechi.htm"Ha****oxicosis, or overproduction of thyroid hormone may occur in the course of Hashimoto's disease, but is usually transient."http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~mowalker/hashimo5.html "Hashimoto's thyroiditis, like Graves' disease, is an autoimmune disease of the thyroid gland. Most patients remain euthyroid or become hypothyroid, but some will develop transient thyrotoxicosis (Ha****oxicosis). Following the thyrotoxic phase, which may last for a few months, about 40% will pass through a hypothyroid period, but most will return to a euthyroid condition."http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/433855_4NOTE: This word, Ha****oxicosis, won't come out right because the site is bleeping out the four letters in the middle even though it's part of a real name - H a s h i t o x i c o s i s.You can also alternate with hyper and hypo symptoms which cancel out the symptoms as well. The tests may not show a problem with the thyroid either.And there's another possibility, hyperparathyroidism. You can read more about that at:http://www.parathyroid.com/If someone has this surgery is necessary. There is no treatment such as reducing the person's calcium level. And if surgery isn't performed by someone who's experienced the end results may be less than desirable.
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  • Dear Eatafruit,well well well, i really much like those who defend what they believe to be right with all their souls.unfortunately, i just picked the wrong site i guess:D my dear really i won't let a door i can knock without knocking it, but right now i live in Egypt, no persons know any thing about NAET, who knows? i may go to Europe and get another M.D. in this branch of alternative medicine, as i found such a great defender like you.yes, we like to count on hormones, don't really trust alternative medicine methods, but this doesn't mean i'm totally oppenent. no i will try to look it more deeply.thanks again my dear friend, pray we may find a solution before such an internal damage occurs.;) and by the way, i never missed such an important class:)That's wonderful- I checked the map for NAET locator and apparently the nearest NAET doctor's are in Israel (from Egypt). It is too bad there is no NAET in your country yet- maybe you could study and be the first NAET doctor for your country.http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0965824217/ref=sib_dp_pt/105-0884274-3519601#reader-linkThis is the book on NAET- it is not a text book- but it explains the basic theory and gives many testimonials. Read the preview if you have a chance, Dr. Nambudripad has a lot to offer.Your patient could also try extra Vitamin E and Calcium besides the vitamin C- I am sure her eating habits are good but maybe is not absorbing enough.Best!Frui.
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