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legs give way

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 13, 2007
  • 11:17 PM

please can anyone help, my daughter, an otherwise healthy 18 year old, recently gone to college, collapsed before Christmas, not fainted, just the legs gave way, she was taken to hospital, where the doctors sent her home "it's just a virus, same thing happened the next day. Our own local doctors diagnosed a virus and tonsilitis. Three days later she collapsed several times, took her to caualty as she'd been getting pins and needles in right leg as well. She was kept in overnight, but again released the next day and by then she couldn't walk, so they wheeled her out to the car in a wheelchair. Three days later our own doctor advised us to take her back. she was then in hospital for over 2 weeks, part of that time in a neurological ward, she had MRI scan, Lumbar tests, blood tests and Urine tests, nothing conclusive although there was a mark on L2 on the MRI scan. she was released from hospital with a stick and just given an outpatients appointment for a month later, she has crutches at home and we've borrowed a wheelchair, but she still cannot walk, a few steps and the right leg is exhaustes, the right leg is completely paralysed. This evening she completely collapsed again. also just before her face turned red and she gets a rash on her face, neck and chest, which then subsides.Please can anyone help with any suggestions?Many thanks

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  • fgorgot to say she had a knock in rugby training about three weeks before all this happened, bit of an ache in the leg but that was all, then she had a cold. Another thing probably not really relevant is that it's got suddenly worse twice after her menstrual cycle
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 13, 2007
    • 11:42 PM
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  • please can anyone help, my daughter, an otherwise healthy 18 year old, recently gone to college, collapsed before Christmas, not fainted, just the legs gave way, she was taken to hospital, where the doctors sent her home "it's just a virus, same thing happened the next day. Our own local doctors diagnosed a virus and tonsilitis. Three days later she collapsed several times, took her to caualty as she'd been getting pins and needles in right leg as well. She was kept in overnight, but again released the next day and by then she couldn't walk, so they wheeled her out to the car in a wheelchair. Three days later our own doctor advised us to take her back. she was then in hospital for over 2 weeks, part of that time in a neurological ward, she had MRI scan, Lumbar tests, blood tests and Urine tests, nothing conclusive although there was a mark on L2 on the MRI scan. she was released from hospital with a stick and just given an outpatients appointment for a month later, she has crutches at home and we've borrowed a wheelchair, but she still cannot walk, a few steps and the right leg is exhaustes, the right leg is completely paralysed. This evening she completely collapsed again. also just before her face turned red and she gets a rash on her face, neck and chest, which then subsides.Please can anyone help with any suggestions?Many thanksI have seen this! Not once but twice. It happened to 2 people closed to me.Both of them overachievers, A personality, underweight, and undernourished.Both went on with all medical tests that showed little or nothing wrong with the nervous system. One of them was even flown to Paris to see a recognized Neurologists- because she had been hospitalized here in USA. They did not have the feared Guillain-Barre Syndrome- they both just needed to nourish their body, gain weight and rest.I have a question:Before she collapse, can she feel her foot touch the floor? does she have a sense of "disconnection" at her knees?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 13, 2007
    • 11:47 PM
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  • One more thing- ever since she is in college, do you know how her dietary habits are? I am also a college study and see how girls only want to eat a bowl of iceberg lettuce and a boiled egg because they don't want to gain any weight.Extreme diets will hurt anyone's neurons.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 13, 2007
    • 11:51 PM
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  • she eats well and healthily, even in college, eating has never been a problem for her although she is still slim
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 11:18 AM
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  • Checked with her before her legs gave way she cannot feel the floor, she thinks she is moving her feet, but when she looked down, she wasn't. and yes less conection below the knees
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 02:57 PM
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  • Checked with her before her legs gave way she cannot feel the floor, she thinks she is moving her feet, but when she looked down, she wasn't. and yes less conection below the kneesIt sounds just like my friends! Both of them would be conscious the entire time- they would either not feel the floor, feel disconnection at the knee, and had to look down to see how were her feet doing. They would fall on the floor and lay there.One was West-Indian American (she recovered faster) and the other one French American. The French girl ended using crutches until the time that she was flown to Paris. She came back walking.The doctors told both that they did too much- and that their little bodies were not going to respond anymore.There were no viruses, bacterias, or tumors found that could be related to this.Even if you think that she eats right- I would recommend you to inventory her diet. My friends were not anorexic- they had a good appetite, but they were lacking something. Maybe a trace , maybe a mineral.They were just early 20's college girls and both of them recover. Take Care
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 05:02 PM
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  • I have similar symptoms right now. It started with a slight case of "vertigo" (not the falling kind, just the feeling of standing on a 10 storey building), and the doctor said it was probably an inner ear virus that would go away by itself. It went away gradually after 2 weeks, but just when I thought all was well, I had my first "leg collapse". I had got into bed, but remembered something I had to do, and got out of bed. About 5 strides down the passage my legs (predominantly my right one) collapsed under me. My first reaction was surprise and then shock because I thought I was having a stroke or something. After about 10 seconds I could get up and went straight back to bed to gather myself. And that was that.....Until the next day, when I collapsed again. As the days progressed, the symptoms kept changing in very minor ways. Sometimes I would lie in bed and the slightest turn to my right or left side, would start the paralysing feeling in my right leg. Once or twice the feeling went up my right arm, but that hasn't happened again. It has been about 10 days now, and I am getting scared because I sometimes feel like I want to pass out, but I never do. The feeling comes over my right hip (maybe sciatic nerve?), goes down the back of my thigh, and then all gives way. It only lasts 10 seconds, with a weak feeling in my lumbar region just before. I had bloods done to check my thyroid levels, my potassium and kidney function, but these came back as "normal". I have an appointment with a specialist physician on 26th January, so I just have to "wait it out". I googled the symptoms, and came up with some possibilities: sciatic nerve compression/irritation, low potassium (hypokaelemia transient paralysis), thyrotoxic transient paralysis, vitamin B12 deficiency (due to malabsorption in the gut). So I went and had a Vit B12 shot, and have been taking Slow-K and other electrolytes in the mean time. This has helped, but only for about a day, and now its starting again. I'm going to increase my electrolytes and I am trying not to sit straight up or in any way to compress the sciatic nerve. I cannot wait for the 26th January! Thank goodness I don't have to leave the house and go out like most people.By the way I have been diagnosed hypothyroid, and was put on thyroid meds about 4 weeks ago, but when I had my TSH, T3 and T4 tested again because of these episodes, but it was in normal range. I suspected thyrotoxicosis, so I reduced my meds, but today I took my normal dose (50mcg), and found my symptoms back in full force. PLEASE HELP IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 07:00 PM
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  • I have similar symptoms right now. It started with a slight case of "vertigo" (not the falling kind, just the feeling of standing on a 10 storey building), and the doctor said it was probably an inner ear virus that would go away by itself. It went away gradually after 2 weeks, but just when I thought all was well, I had my first "leg collapse". I had got into bed, but remembered something I had to do, and got out of bed. About 5 strides down the passage my legs (predominantly my right one) collapsed under me. My first reaction was surprise and then shock because I thought I was having a stroke or something. After about 10 seconds I could get up and went straight back to bed to gather myself. And that was that.....Until the next day, when I collapsed again. As the days progressed, the symptoms kept changing in very minor ways. Sometimes I would lie in bed and the slightest turn to my right or left side, would start the paralysing feeling in my right leg. Once or twice the feeling went up my right arm, but that hasn't happened again. It has been about 10 days now, and I am getting scared because I sometimes feel like I want to pass out, but I never do. The feeling comes over my right hip (maybe sciatic nerve?), goes down the back of my thigh, and then all gives way. It only lasts 10 seconds, with a weak feeling in my lumbar region just before. I had bloods done to check my thyroid levels, my potassium and kidney function, but these came back as "normal". I have an appointment with a specialist physician on 26th January, so I just have to "wait it out". I googled the symptoms, and came up with some possibilities: sciatic nerve compression/irritation, low potassium (hypokaelemia transient paralysis), thyrotoxic transient paralysis, vitamin B12 deficiency (due to malabsorption in the gut). So I went and had a Vit B12 shot, and have been taking Slow-K and other electrolytes in the mean time. This has helped, but only for about a day, and now its starting again. I'm going to increase my electrolytes and I am trying not to sit straight up or in any way to compress the sciatic nerve. I cannot wait for the 26th January! Thank goodness I don't have to leave the house and go out like most people.By the way I have been diagnosed hypothyroid, and was put on thyroid meds about 4 weeks ago, but when I had my TSH, T3 and T4 tested again because of these episodes, but it was in normal range. I suspected thyrotoxicosis, so I reduced my meds, but today I took my normal dose (50mcg), and found my symptoms back in full force. PLEASE HELP IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING!Are you familiar with Guillain-Barre Syndrome? or Meniere's syndrome?Interesting that your doctor thought that you had an ear infection.Did you our the Original Poster's daughter had flu shots in the past?People think that Guillain occurs to people after having the flu shot or having an infection. Meniere's is related to the equilibrium (behind the ear).I would advice both of you to research alternative medicine. Western medicine can't do anything about these 2 conditions.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 07:30 PM
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  • There is no dizziness involved. My sense of vertigo is also gone. I'm just left with this transient right leg paralysis. Thanks for the input though.:)
    marguerite 9 Replies
    • January 14, 2007
    • 08:00 PM
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  • Possible neurological lyme disease
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 9, 2007
    • 10:38 PM
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  • There is no dizziness involved. My sense of vertigo is also gone. I'm just left with this transient right leg paralysis. Thanks for the input though.:)This sounds like migrane. Quite a classical history.None of these symptoms fit with Guillan-Barre syndrome. This is not the cause. I would not advise any alternative medicine. There is no western medicine for these problems simply because one just has to wait and the symptoms will subside.SK - Paediatrician in UK
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  • im just back from hospital with my daughter who is 14, i think they thought she was making it up! it has happened 4 times with her and she has passed out twice (i think thats because she was anxious though). she had an ear infection around 4 weeks ago so im inclined to think it has something to do with that as the doctors arent really bothered! her legs seem to go and then there is numbness from below her knees for hours after
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 15, 2009
    • 05:13 PM
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  • please can anyone help, my daughter, an otherwise healthy 18 year old, recently gone to college, collapsed before Christmas, not fainted, just the legs gave way, she was taken to hospital, where the doctors sent her home "it's just a virus, same thing happened the next day. Our own local doctors diagnosed a virus and tonsilitis. Three days later she collapsed several times, took her to caualty as she'd been getting pins and needles in right leg as well. She was kept in overnight, but again released the next day and by then she couldn't walk, so they wheeled her out to the car in a wheelchair. Three days later our own doctor advised us to take her back. she was then in hospital for over 2 weeks, part of that time in a neurological ward, she had MRI scan, Lumbar tests, blood tests and Urine tests, nothing conclusive although there was a mark on L2 on the MRI scan. she was released from hospital with a stick and just given an outpatients appointment for a month later, she has crutches at home and we've borrowed a wheelchair, but she still cannot walk, a few steps and the right leg is exhaustes, the right leg is completely paralysed. This evening she completely collapsed again. also just before her face turned red and she gets a rash on her face, neck and chest, which then subsides.Please can anyone help with any suggestions?Many thanksThis is fascinating to me -- I've been looking for answers for my 16-year-old daughter, who has very similar symptoms, and is part-time in a wheelchair, part time on forearm crutches. At least part of the problem for her is Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, or POTS, but she may also have Periodic Paralysis, we're told.
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