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Wrong Diagnosis

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  • Posted By: darkgift
  • May 5, 2007
  • 04:27 AM

First of all the Psychiatrist spoke with me for all of 30 minutes and ended up prescribing me Lamictal for bipolar II. I have had depression because of life problems but I have never had it without a cause, nor have I ever experience a single manic moment. My father convinced her of all these things that aren't true.. He lied saying that my friends called him and told him I was acting wierd when they truly did not. I live on campus, none of my friends even have his number, and he doesn't even know any of my friends. When I confronted him about this, he said I am just trying to get you on medicine that will help you. He told me if I don't take the medicine then he is going to kick me on the streets. I don't think he is truly worried for me. I am really worried. I feel I need to leave here. I don't want to take the medicine because it may cause suicidal thoughts, depression, and more seriously a deadly rash. The rash may kill you even if you stop the medication. I would rather be depressed on and off then to have the chance of this side effect. They are trying to force me to take the medication. I don't know what to do because I have no place to live.. But I am normal and I don't feel I want to die.. Why would someone try to force medication on someone when there is no problem seriously effecting their life?

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  • My Friend - for you there are two options, and have been for some time. You can react spontaneously and immediately to everything, or you can try a more sophisticated approach. Stop wasting your time reacting. Watch and wait, even on a bad trip, go see what is on the other side - that way you will become creative and productive. When I was in school here (in the old South Africa) the guaranteed treatment for every problem was a vicious caning. We soon learned to pretend that all is fine. Suppose you guys lived in Nazi Germany, would you act up? Even so, it took me a long time to come right - you can have it sooner.Parents simply want kids to be quiet, and the doctor wants the parent happy asap, to get paid. Nobody gives a ***n for you. Your friends will betray you and your fearful oldies will team up with the State against you. They may claim they care for you, but how can they tell? What qualifies them to know? Examples: I have a nice cat. If he was bigger he'd have eaten me for breakfast, but I love him anyway. My girlfriend is very independent (sleeps around) but I love her anyway. One day she will take up with someone better, so? I love her for who she is. I benefit, because I care for many people and animals, not because they care for me.This is why *****t said "turn the other cheek" - so that we don't waste our time. Most kids think they urgently need to leave some situ, without specialized skills or anything. Obviously this is stupid. Keep your roof and food while you can. Be quiet and helpful, smile at drama, let it pass. Meanwhile use the opportunity to develop your own income. Are we having a free life when we react? The Hon. Bob Marley O.M. did not only smoke, he turned out recordings, live shows, with all the planning required. So have a secret inner life mon, instead of being just another kid with a diagnosis. *****t told Pontius Pilate, "You can have no power over me, unless it is given to you by God." This means, "You may kill me, but to make any real impression on me whatsoever, you will have to do something that I like."We can exchange the truth that tells a lie (our conditioning) with the lie that tells the truth (the dance of harlequin / the cultured truth). The harlequin is the mute, abnormal influence - invisible to pantaloon (the antique antic, or old king - our conditioning) and to the clown (the ignorant, reactive peasant - our ego). The harlequin is the troubadour of old, that won the kingdom not by inheritance, but by winning the heart of the king's daughter. The shape of his hood is evidently phallic. He is the wandering prince, the gentleman burglar. *****t wore his "motley mantle", the "ragged raiment". The harlequin is our soul or genius, and only he can honestly say, "How splendid is the Adventure!"Sufi Hazrat Inayat Khan (1882-1927) tried to make it simpler 4 u:www.sufimessage.com/eastern-rose-garden/love-harmony-beauty.html:cool:
    Curly Stooge 319 Replies Flag this Response
  • Curly stooge - you have a unique, artistic take on life, and I enjoy reading your posts. But I would like to offer some practical advice. DarkGift, please print out the side effects page on Lamictal from www.rxlist.com or www.drugs.com and give this to your father. You do not need to offer any explanations, just send it to him. I suggest trying to find a counselor who you can relate to - this may take a few tries, but keep looking and I am sure you can find one you can talk to. The school where you are going should have some options for you. A psychiatrist is ONLY going to prescribe meds - that is what their training dictates. Meds may be helpful, but I think you should explore other options first before you commit to taking a potentially toxic med. Please try to explain this to your father in a rational, non reactive way. If he is truly wanting to help, then this option should be explored before jumping on the drug wheel. I absolutely agree with Curly Stooge that you need to not react to your father - this takes practice, as you both obviously push each other's buttons. Please try to find some books that may help you - spend a day in the library and pour through some until you find ones that ring true for you. Take care of yourself, don't drink, don't smoke and get a good multivitamin with the B vitamins. Rescue Remedy is great for emotional stress - google this. Get some therapy to help process your emotions. These are all options I'd explore first before taking a drug. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
  • First of all the Psychiatrist spoke with me for all of 30 minutes and ended up prescribing me Lamictal for bipolar II. A psychiatrist exists to distribute drugs. Your first problem was ever letting yourself get roped into going to a "drug distributor." If you go to a butcher, he will try to sell you some meat. If you go to a drug distributor, he will try to get you on drugs. See? Seriously, what did you think would happen in that office? He would hold your hand and understannd your problems? So first thing is grow up and realize that in this world people and professions have motives apart from your own interests and in their own interests and that they use their powers to press their interests even if it totally destroys your well-being. If you thought of things that way they probably wouldn't have got you into that office in the first place. I have had depression because of life problems but I have never had it without a cause, nor have I ever experience a single manic moment. Yeah so why the ***l did you allow yourself to be taken to a psychiatrist's office? You just let someone take you there for fun or something? Sounds like you DO have one problem, and that is not being ASSERTIVE. My father convinced her of all these things that aren't true.. He lied saying that my friends called him and told him I was acting wierd when they truly did not. I live on campus, none of my friends even have his number, and he doesn't even know any of my friends. When I confronted him about this, he said I am just trying to get you on medicine that will help you. He told me if I don't take the medicine then he is going to kick me on the streets. Are you just now learning that your dad is the type who would do this to you? Were you not paying attention as you grew up? Or is it that you got used to letting him do this all your life, and now when its really starting to impact you you all the sudden spontaneously want to magically have him stop being a ***k? You live on campus, so how is he going to throw you out on the street? Since you live on a campus I assume you are of adult age. Why the ***l are you even talking to your dad anymore if he treats you like a kid and tries to control you? You're an adult. Why was your dad speaking for you at a psychiatry appointment? He should not even have been in the room. IF he really is going to kick you out then consider it a blessing. You need to prepare, like by finding roomates and some source of income, or learning to camp, or something, to live on your own. So when he says "thats it I'm kicking you out" you can say, "Fine, I'll be at my new palce with my new friends and spending the new money from my new job, too bad you'll never hear my voice again, it was your choice, bye now." I don't think he is truly worried for me. I am really worried. I feel I need to leave here. Well yeah. Seems like he is an abusive person. Trying to screw up your body with drugs is in some ways worse than if he hit you or something. I don't want to take the medicine because it may cause suicidal thoughts, depression, and more seriously a deadly rash. The rash may kill you even if you stop the medication. I would rather be depressed on and off then to have the chance of this side effect. They are trying to force me to take the medication. Yeah well now its in your permanent medical file that you have a "disorder" so it is much easier for them to force you. Since I doubt you can afford a lawyer your chance of legally stopping them isn't good. I also doubt you could articulate yourself well at any kind of competency hearing, since it sounds like you keep letting your dad talk right over you. You screwed yourself on this one. Now you are going to have to use all kinds of extreme measures to avoid being a drug zombie. Assuming you can't actually stand up to you dad your next best option is to just shut up and pretend to take the medicine but don't take it. Then gradually find an income source and other place to live and once you're out of his grasp never talk to him again. PErsonally, if my mom or dad had the nerve to try to force a dangerous drug on me I'd look them dead in the eye and tell them they better reconsider, real hard. I don't know what to do because I have no place to live.. But I am normal and I don't feel I want to die.. Why would someone try to force medication on someone when there is no problem seriously effecting their life? Who gives a flying crap why he would do it? He's obviously abusive and a control freak, you need to stop this "poor innocent little me routine," and turn into some kind of person with a backbone if you want to get out of this with your brain un-damaged by the drugs. Cases like yours really disgust me. Stop carrying on like a slave. Have you done any single one effective thing to stop your dad's and the psychiatrist's plans for you? Doesn't sound like it. You sound like a born victim, which is sad. The system is designed to prey upon people like yourself - free your mind and fight back before it eats you. Sorry I can't give much more specific advice but no advice will work unless you first change your born to lose attitude and understand the fact that you might be in the fight of your life. My advice - WIN.
    Non Servium 85 Replies Flag this Response
  • I am not on medication anymore, so that is that. I tried it for a while and my dad saw that I got really bad anxiety. I have an anxiety disorder and not bipolar appearently. Some reason the two overlap alot. But I am doing an all natural approach which has worked. And I feel very clear headed now, with no problems at all. I still want to get out of this house, which I am working on, but other then that I am good. Thank you all for your repsonses
    darkgift 19 Replies Flag this Response
  • These Americans are crazy, but sometimes they impress me.
    Curly Stooge 319 Replies Flag this Response
  • am not on medication anymore, so that is that. I tried it for a while and my dad saw that I got really bad anxiety. I have an anxiety disorder and not bipolar appearently. Some reason the two overlap alot. But I am doing an all natural approach which has worked. And I feel very clear headed now, with no problems at all. I still want to get out of this house, which I am working on, but other then that I am good. Thank you all for your repsonses Darkgift,So glad you are feeling better and sounds like you are on the right path - your post made my day:) ! Keep in mind that some medications for anxiety can cause bipolar symptoms, and vice versa. I hope you continue to have good results with your all natural approach, and know that if anxiety or depression rears its ugly head, you will have tools to deal with it. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
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