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IMMUNE to EVERYTHING

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • March 14, 2009
  • 00:56 AM

I seem to be immune to all medicines, including SSRI's, caffeine, alcohol, ANYTHING, just doesn't affect me. My brain feels like slosh, so WEIRD. This ALL started after I took fish oil for 2 weeks, and it has yet to cease MONTHS later. WTF did the fish oil do to me?

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  • Can somebody please help me?
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  • Fish oil cannot cause you to instantly become 'immune' to all things. I'm not sure I understand what question you are asking. Is it a problem for you that 'nothing' works on you? Can you be more specific about how you react? What medications in particular are you having trouble with? Can you describe the mental 'slosh' more accurately? Are you really sure that no amount of alcohol effects you ever? How much do you of these things do you consume on a regular basis? How long have you been taking the SSRI's? What other things do you believe you are 'immune' to? Are you depressed, what is your mental state?I'm afraid for us to help you with this problem, we need much more information. What is your height and weight?I'm also fairly certain that these things may indeed be effecting you, but some people feel the effects more than others. Quite often, when a diet consists of a lot of caffeine and processed foods, it can certainly feel as if 'nothing works'. System overload.Have you tried to detox your system by going without any these things for several weeks, then reintroducing very slowly? I'm not suggesting you discontinue any medication, I am referring more to the caffeine and alcohol. We can't help you until you give us more info. :)
    Harmonium 322 Replies Flag this Response
  • Fish oil cannot cause you to instantly become 'immune' to all things. I'm not sure I understand what question you are asking. Is it a problem for you that 'nothing' works on you? Can you be more specific about how you react? What medications in particular are you having trouble with? Can you describe the mental 'slosh' more accurately? Are you really sure that no amount of alcohol effects you ever? How much do you of these things do you consume on a regular basis? How long have you been taking the SSRI's? What other things do you believe you are 'immune' to? Are you depressed, what is your mental state?I'm afraid for us to help you with this problem, we need much more information. What is your height and weight?I'm also fairly certain that these things may indeed be effecting you, but some people feel the effects more than others. Quite often, when a diet consists of a lot of caffeine and processed foods, it can certainly feel as if 'nothing works'. System overload.Have you tried to detox your system by going without any these things for several weeks, then reintroducing very slowly? I'm not suggesting you discontinue any medication, I am referring more to the caffeine and alcohol. We can't help you until you give us more info. :)Well I know it was the fish oil because this all happened right after I took it. It also happened with 2 other brands but it went away. With this latest brand it has remained. And yes of course this is a problem because I'm severely depressed and I have like no emotions. (Anhedonia) The way I react to caffeine is I dont get energized/hyper (and i barely drink it), with alcohol I can't get buzzed and just feel sick if I drink too much (again, rarely drink it; still underage), painkillers do nothing or I cant feel the effects, and food used to affect how I was feeling but now it doesnt seem to affect me at all. Im currently on Lamictal, Zoloft, and Geodon, none of which are working. If we continue on this medication route we'll be nowhere years later, there's clearly some underlying issue thats preventing me from feeling the effects of these medications. I already had full bloodwork at a hospital and a CAT scan and EKG, all of which apparently came back fine. Now I'm seeing two psychiatrists, I meet with the second in a week for another opinion. My height is 5'7 and weight is 130-135.
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  • And yes of course this is a problem because I'm severely depressed and I have like no emotions.Depression is much more likely the cause of your "immunity" to things. It is no small thing to be depressed, many people feel very physical pains and associated apathy. Sounds like you have the apathy part down pat. The medications you are taking also somewhat 'mute' the emotional response. They could be a source of your apathy, combined with the depression especially.The way I react to caffeine is I dont get energized/hyper (and i barely drink it), with alcohol I can't get buzzed and just feel sick if I drink too much (again, rarely drink it; still underage), painkillers do nothing or I cant feel the effects, and food used to affect how I was feeling but now it doesnt seem to affect me at all.Again, all symptoms of depression. Remember that some of us don't feel things like a caffeine rush...I don't. And, if the alcohol is making you sick, you are most certainly not 'immune' to it. The medications you are taking do not mix well with alcohol, it will make the experience much different than before you were on them. Painkillers also are a very subjective thing, some feel the effects, some don't. Unless you are taking prescription pain killers, I wouldn't expect you to 'feel' it. All of this points to depression. Now I'm seeing two psychiatrists, I meet with the second in a week for another opinionExcellent. They can help with your medications as well as the apathetic depression. You can overcome this!!
    Harmonium 322 Replies Flag this Response
  • Depression is much more likely the cause of your "immunity" to things. It is no small thing to be depressed, many people feel very physical pains and associated apathy. Sounds like you have the apathy part down pat. The medications you are taking also somewhat 'mute' the emotional response. They could be a source of your apathy, combined with the depression especially.Again, all symptoms of depression. Remember that some of us don't feel things like a caffeine rush...I don't. And, if the alcohol is making you sick, you are most certainly not 'immune' to it. The medications you are taking do not mix well with alcohol, it will make the experience much different than before you were on them. Painkillers also are a very subjective thing, some feel the effects, some don't. Unless you are taking prescription pain killers, I wouldn't expect you to 'feel' it. All of this points to depression. Excellent. They can help with your medications as well as the apathetic depression. You can overcome this!!No trust me on this, ALL of this happened after I took fish oil. It's caused EVERY single freaking one of these symptoms. It happened approximately the 9th day after I took the pills. My whole body vastly changed and my metabolism has slowed. Before the fish oil SSRI's worked brilliantly, the fish oil altered something SO VAST, I NEED you guys to help me figure this out. I've posted this topic on many forums. I see my new psychiatrist this Friday, and I hope he can shed some more light on this EXTREMELY frustarating issue for me.
    Wariogiant 4 Replies Flag this Response
  • Anyone have any thoughts on this?
    Wariogiant 4 Replies Flag this Response
  • What did your visit with the therapist do for you? What was his/her opinion? No trust me on this, ALL of this happened after I took fish oil. It's caused EVERY single freaking one of these symptoms. It happened approximately the 9th day after I took the pills. My whole body vastly changed and my metabolism has slowed. Before the fish oil SSRI's worked brilliantly, the fish oil altered something SO VAST, I NEED you guys to help me figure this out.It is NOT POSSIBLE for fish oil to have 'done this to you'. Absolutely, unequivocally, not possible. If you were to have a reaction to fish oil (very, very, very rare) it would have happened within the first 24 hours-- NOT 9 days later. It absolutely cannot alter your metabolism. Read up on fish oil (google it) and see for yourself. As I've stated before, your problems seem to be based on your mental health status. It's nothing to be ashamed of or any less of a 'real' problem than Cancer or Cystic Fibrosis-- it affects you in a detrimental way. Please work to solve your mental health (depression, I'm thinking) issues. I believe that once this is done, your other issues will also resolve. At the very least, when your depression (or whatever it is) is controlled/fixed/solved/mediated, you will be able to separate out the stuff that is not caused by the mental stuff. I have personally found Cognitive Behavioural Therapy to be significantly effective for solving my own mental issues. Again, it's a disorder like anything else just one other's can't see from the outside. Also, please remember that once therapudic levels of the medications you have listed are reached, you will not be able to 'feel' them working. There should not be any 'feeling' or altering from the meds. If there is, go to your prescribing physician and get to the source of the problem (it's not fish oil!). I really do wish you well. I suspect the reason other's have not responded more to your issue is that they either agree with my own assessment or what you are suggesting is just so far from what is possible that they don't know what to say to you. I'm not trying to be harsh, I do care that you are going through a situation you find difficult. But, I firmly believe that you can and will get through this as long as you address the depression (or whatever issue it is causing the apathy). Please help yourself to get better. It's the only way to solve this-- taking responsibility for your own health is really quite liberating. Best to you.
    Harmonium 322 Replies Flag this Response
  • But Harmonium, I'm sorry, I have to protest with you on this. It WAS caused by the supplement, and I have a story here to prove it to you.Ok, it all started when I was in my first year of college (I'm in my 2nd now). I decided that I wanted to take fish oil and bought Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega 3. I had read about all the benefits associated with consuming fish oil and decided that I would take it. So I did, and I started with 3 a day. I didn't notice anything for the first week, then at the beginning of the second week something terrible happened. ALL of these symptoms which I'm describing to you now, AROSE. I was terrified, and thought it must be purely coincidential because there was no WAY fish oil could cause this. So I restarted it about a week later... BAM, symptoms arise AGAIN. So I immeadiately stopped it, and the symptoms vanished once more. After those two incidents I gave up on the fish oil for about 2 months. Then I decided that I would give it another shot, this time, with a POTENT Pharmaceutical grade brand, RX Omega 3 Factors. 9 DAYS later, guess what?! BAM, symptoms ARISE. So I immeadiately stopped it, but guess what? The symptoms haven't dissapeared this time, they've REMAINED. 7 months after I've stopped the fish oil, I still have these symptoms in me. If you were in my situation, and you knew the fish oil caused all of this, what would you DO?
    Wariogiant 4 Replies Flag this Response
  • Also, is there a way I can contact you Harmonium? I'd like to talk with you in private for some more advice. Seems I cant PM on this site.
    Wariogiant 4 Replies Flag this Response
  • Yes, Wariogiant, if you wish to contact me in private, my e-mail is Harmonium77@gmail.com. I will be happy to speak with you--- however, my position has not changed by your latest post. I still don't believe the omega's to be the problem, despite (or even because of) the co-incidence timing-wise.Well I know it was the fish oil because this all happened right after I took it. It also happened with 2 other brands but it went away. With this latest brand it has remained. And yes of course this is a problem because I'm severely depressed and I have like no emotions. (Anhedonia) The way I react to caffeine is I dont get energized/hyper (and i barely drink it), with alcohol I can't get buzzed and just feel sick if I drink too much (again, rarely drink it; still underage), painkillers do nothing or I cant feel the effects, and food used to affect how I was feeling but now it doesnt seem to affect me at all. Im currently on Lamictal, Zoloft, and Geodon, none of which are working. If we continue on this medication route we'll be nowhere years later, there's clearly some underlying issue thats preventing me from feeling the effects of these medications. I already had full blood work at a hospital and a CAT scan and EKG, all of which apparently came back fine. Now I'm seeing two psychiatrists, I meet with the second in a week for another opinion. My height is 5'7 and weight is 130-135.If all brands of fish oil (for you) cause these effects.........why don't you just simply STOP TAKING THE FISH OIL?I had read about all the benefits associated with consuming fish oil and decided that I would take it. So I did, and I started with 3 a day. I didn't notice anything for the first week, then at the beginning of the second week something terrible happened. ALL of these symptoms which I'm describing to you now, AROSEThe symptoms that you are describing to me are:"slowed metabolism" --I'm not quite sure how you quantify this, aside from laboratory studies which you have not published. It seems a bit subjective to me. Severe depression-- seems to me that was there before the fish oil--by your own account. I have like no emotions. (Anhedonia) -- (again, sounds like this was a problem before the fish oil was introduced......)was this actually diagnosed by a physician or your own assessment? Note I have no objection to your own assessment-- if you have no emotional response, so be it. But....it is a clinical diagnosis. Have you been diagnosed and was this going on before the fish oil was ever introduced? "Immune to Everything"-- as stated previously, this is not the case (or at least appears not to be the case from your own posts).Im currently on Lamictal, Zoloft, and Geodon, none of which are working. If we continue on this medication route we'll be nowhere years later, there's clearly some underlying issue thats preventing me from feeling the effects of these medications.For what cause were you prescribed these medications, and when (before or after the fish oil?)?Honestly, although I consent to your correlation with the fish oil-- it is in fact JUST A COINCIDENCE. If this is what I believe it to be, than that would be indicitive of the 'normal' response. And Again, if it were the fish oil, the timing is off-- it would happen most likely in 24 hours, but at the outside 48 hours. Here is a link to fish oil side effects:http://ezinearticles.com/?Minor-Side-Effects-Of-Fish-Oil-Supplements-May-Be-Avoidable&id=427846And more:http://www.myomancy.com/2007/03/fish_oil_side_eNone of the effects these articles mention are YOUR current brand of effects......which leads me further to believe this is not caused by the fish oil but rather mental in nature (again, I myself have had mental instability, so I personally do not regard this and more than any other health issue).I would very much like to assist you. I am very frank in nature, however-- if that is a problem for you than do not contact me. If not, please feel free to do so. I do wish to help you......I have personally been through ***l emotionally and have assisted others through it too. I believe I can assist on that level. And, as always, I do hope you get better even if my beliefs are incorrect. Your wellness is paramount to me, as always. Best wishes, and I hope to speak with you privately soon. :D
    Harmonium 322 Replies Flag this Response
  • Dude, think out side the bun for a minute. When is the last time you did a detox, or ate healthy for consecutive days like 30 days or more. The point is that studies show that our bodies carry excess amounts of "crap" or waste in out system and we cannot "flush" it out of our systems if we keep eating crap! Fiber is the key. And just like anything else.. you need some lube to get it moving... that is where the fish oils and olive oils and stuff like that come in! Also, when you are really backed up in your colon, you are going to feel sluggish, and lightheaded and stuff like that. Believe me, you are doing the right thing taking fish oils,(given they have not gone bad or anything.) You will feel stomach discomfort, side pain, nausea maybe, but eventually, you will have produced one big bowel movement! Try flax oils, those really get the ball moving faster than fish oils. My Story, I had the same problem you had and i went do doc and had every exam and blood test possible. They told me "You are healthy, and we don't know why you do not feel healthy." I use to feel like my heart was going to stop any minute, and really toxic like i drank alcohol when i did not, and I did not know why, and neight did the docs! So my first step was a to try a detox, and boy, it makes the wierdest stuff come out of you... Instantly i felt better!! But bewarned... do a detox once a year! The thing with detox is that you have to drink 2 gallons water and Gatorade also, to flush the crap out!My advice to you... take it or leave it.. Eat fruit for breakfast (Apple a day keeps the doc away... So eat 2-3 so you dont have to ever see him!) Grapes and brazil nuts are great! Lunch a sandwich with all veggie fixins like lettuce, pickle, and grapes to snack ( Always eat grapes !!! Dont ask why just do it! Dinner,Sensible dinner. with veggies or fruit, sensible steak like 4-6 oz. In other words, follow the Mediterranean diet, Research them, you will find they life longer then we do! And less cancer. Also, drink small amounts on wine, its biblical. ****s says to drink a little wine for all of you infirmities. I am a firm believer in ***********t, and he has given me the knowledge to help my self and help others in my friends and family get overall better health, lower blood pressure, rid kidney stones, rid cancer (Pomegranate pills), just with natural remedies. There are tons of research on the internet that promote this type of healing. Remember when you are small, your mother tells you to eat your vegetables!" Why not when you are older? The ignorant way of thinking is "When you are little, you need that stuff because you are growing, and when you are all grown up, that stuff is not important. " What nutrients to we give out bodies when we are "grown up" cigerette smoke and alcohol and caffeine? Yeah, Ill stick to the veggies. Also side note... fasting is great for your health, there is research on that also.Sorry for making this so long, but there is so much truth that our gov use to hides from us. Thanks to Obama we got the truth out now about natural heeling!Great information and research: http://www.nutrition.gov
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  • First of all.. what is your problem? Being immune to everything is really nice. You wont fall sick. And about the reason... If you take fish oil for some time regularly, it helps you to become immune to outside environment. Even it helps you protect you from the stale intakes. I think that's a good sign. Isnt it?
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