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if you want to try HRT read this

Posted In: Menopause 17 Replies
  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • May 1, 2007
  • 02:29 AM

i'm on HRT (premarin) since 1-1-07 and i've paid a price for it. i found out there are risks MORE than the "advertised" ones of heart attack, cancer, and stroke. they dont mention the risk of side-effects which many women get. you may want to consider this as you think about using HRT.

here's my story:

i started HRT (premarin) on 1-1-07. then for 2 months, i puked 5 times a week. i found out i was on the 2nd to the highest dose, so i asked to have it cut in 1/2--this worked, and after a month all the puking left. but then, a host of other side-effects kicked in while i was still suffering from puking. these 5 side-effects are:
--severe joint pain in the jaw (they wonder if it was TMJ) & then went in to the ear behind it. this pain has been so bad that i dont keep medicated on 2 pain killers at once i scream out loud all the time from pain.
--left pinky & surrunding area of hand had been numb for 3 days and it keeps trying to spread onto other fingers & up the forearm.
--swelling of lower legs & fluid retention (getting worse)
--raise in blood pressure (to borderline)
--skin rash which is brown with little bumps & peels from dryness, this itches frequently so bad i have to relieve it with special lubricant to stop it

now i have to have the dose lowered to 1/2 again, hoping this will solve it or i'll have to stop it entirely. i've researched the web & found tons of women on HRT get this stuff so its not just "me" and it's quite common.

for your information, there are other side-effects on the list for HRT, some of these are:

--itching feet
--tingling
--known to make current medical problems worse, like asthma
--thyroid problems, so you may need thyroid medication to regulate the thyroid
--raise in triglycerides which can result in need for cholesteral medicating
--mental problems unspecified
--mood swings, sometimes rapid ones.
--enlargement of breasts
--breast tenderness
--PMS or increased PMS
--loss of appetite
--weight changes
--nausea (and/or vomitting)
--abdominal cramps
--feeling bloated
--bleeding gums
--breakthrough bleeding
--vaginal spotting
--vaginal discharge
--changes in mentrual flow
--enlargement of uterine fibroids
--vaginal infection with Candida
--a cystititis-like syndrome
--mild darrhea
--jaundice or yellowing of skin and/or whites of the eyes
--loss of scalp hair
--developement of new hairy areas
--lesions of the eyes & contact-lens wearing will become intolerant
--migraine headaches
--mild dizziness
--depression
--increased sex drive
--dribbling or sudden passage of urine
--loss of coordination
--chest pains
--leg pains
--difficulty breathing
--slurred speech
--vision changes

(finally done)

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  • oh my you've had some rough times with HRT, I have faired better. I also started in Jan 07 but with the Estradiol patch and prometrium tablet. No vomiting, just weight gain, water retention, increased fatigue, dizzyness and 2 periods after no bleeding for 2 1/2 years. The periods didn't start until the end of May and were only 15 days apart. I'm very perturbed about the weight gain and the total inability to lose weight no matter what I try. It's getting increasingly frustrating sitting in weight watchers meetings listening to everybody talk about all the weight they lose every week when I've worked so hard at it and lost under a pound! I also started CPAP therapy for sleep apnea about a month ago and my blood pressure went down considerably, although it never went up with HRT was just borderline with age. This is also supposed to help the fatigue and weight, but not yet.
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  • Ditch all the drugs they only make you feel worse and then you will end up on other drugs for the side effects and it is an ever ending cycle!! Break it! I made it through menopausal symptoms by hanging in there and by these five important rules for good health1. Get plenty of rest 8-10 hours. you have had enough if you wake up without an alarm. Figure out what your body needs and get it. When you sleep is when your body heals itself. not enough rest can bring all kinds of miseriesand illnesses2. Get plenty of exercise a 30 minute walk a day at a normal pace will do wonders. Add more and you will feel even better. Breathing deep and getting that heart pumping!3. Eat right and take a good multivitamin. Four -five small meals a day and 10 calories per pound of body is a good goal.4. Drink plenty of water 8-10 glasses a day just water not counting pop, tea, coffee. Water helps your body flush out toxins and excess fat.5. Have a good confidant friend, whether it is a friend, sibling, or spouse. you need someone you can share life with and laugh with. Someone that just make you smile and feel relaxed.If you can master these I'll bet your other miserable symptoms will disappear. Believe me I been there and done that and this advice came from a good friend and it works!!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • oh my you've had some rough times with HRT, I have faired better. I also started in Jan 07 but with the Estradiol patch and prometrium tablet. No vomiting, just weight gain, water retention, increased fatigue, dizzyness and 2 periods after no bleeding for 2 1/2 years. The periods didn't start until the end of May and were only 15 days apart. I'm very perturbed about the weight gain and the total inability to lose weight no matter what I try. It's getting increasingly frustrating sitting in weight watchers meetings listening to everybody talk about all the weight they lose every week when I've worked so hard at it and lost under a pound! I also started CPAP therapy for sleep apnea about a month ago and my blood pressure went down considerably, although it never went up with HRT was just borderline with age. This is also supposed to help the fatigue and weight, but not yet.I am going on the Estraderm patch .05, and 200 mg Prometrium for 12 days a month. (I understand you can do this every other month.) Did you continue to apply the patch while taking the Prometrium? Thank you !
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 17, 2007
    • 08:38 PM
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  • Ditch all the drugs they only make you feel worse and then you will end up on other drugs for the side effects and it is an ever ending cycle!! Break it! I made it through menopausal symptoms by hanging in there and by these five important rules for good health1. Get plenty of rest 8-10 hours. you have had enough if you wake up without an alarm. Figure out what your body needs and get it. When you sleep is when your body heals itself. not enough rest can bring all kinds of miseriesand illnesses 2. Get plenty of exercise a 30 minute walk a day at a normal pace will do wonders. Add more and you will feel even better. Breathing deep and getting that heart pumping! 3. Eat right and take a good multivitamin. Four -five small meals a day and 10 calories per pound of body is a good goal. 4. Drink plenty of water 8-10 glasses a day just water not counting pop, tea, coffee. Water helps your body flush out toxins and excess fat. 5. Have a good confidant friend, whether it is a friend, sibling, or spouse. you need someone you can share life with and laugh with. Someone that just make you smile and feel relaxed. If you can master these I'll bet your other miserable symptoms will disappear. Believe me I been there and done that and this advice came from a good friend and it works!! Awesome advice! I would like to add that if you are experiencing menopausal symptoms to try acupuncture and Chinese herbal Therapy - it can really help! Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • September 18, 2007
    • 03:02 AM
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  • And one last problem for some people on HRT My storyI was prescribed HRT because of early menopause because of worries about osteoporiesis. Back in the caribbean they could not get the one I was prescribed so they gave me another one.Later I discover that this is Estrogen only, I tell the doc who looks thing up in a book and says I am right. With the progesterone he prescribes I get break through bleeding after 10 years of no periods.So I decide to stop and heres the problem.I am now getting the most terrible hot flushes accompanied by an asthma attack and pumping rushes of blood and an urgency to urinate all at once.Heck I dont know what to do first, puff my inhaler, rush to the bathroom, try and dry off or lie down for the blood rush.WARNING HRT IS VERY ADDICTIVE for some people and the withdrawing is nasty.
    chrismia 159 Replies
    • October 3, 2007
    • 01:42 PM
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  • That's aweful! If we only can prevent menopause :( haaay. My mom is using a natural alternative to HRT which is Femenescence. As compared to HRT or phyto-hormones, it contains an active ingredient called Maca-GO that stimulates the pituitary and adrenal glands to produce the "natural" hormones that your body normally produces before menopause. It says to deal with menopause's and peri-menopause's agonizing symptoms and a good bone health. And the good thing is she is not having problems with weight gain. Weight changes normally occurs if a person has a hormone imbalance, which means her hormones are in a normal range. It might also work for you!
    sammyoh 1 Replies
    • January 14, 2008
    • 11:41 AM
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  • I've tried it all, and the only thing that really worked is bioidentical hormones. It's perscribed by a OBGYN, antiaging Dr. or a hormome specialist Dr. It's made for you in a compounding pharmacy, by the results of your blood test or sylvia test. It's made to bring your hormone levels up to where they should be before menopause, so all your hot flashes are gone and all the crap that goes along with it. It's identical to your own body so there are no side effects, and it's plant based, nothing artificial.Research it thru Suzanne Somers.com or bioidentical hormones....I'm a believer.
    Linda K 1 Replies
    • February 13, 2008
    • 05:02 AM
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  • Although most of us were told that we will loose estrogen as we age, this turns out not to be true. Estrogen is a hormonal family name. We make one during pregnency, a different one during our reproductive years and another after menopause dominates. Its made in fat cells. So, if a women has fat cells she has estrogen. Ceasing ovulation leaves us with another actual hormonal deficiency--progesterone. Progesterone is calming and protects the uterus from cancer; it does the same for breast and because men and women make the same hormones in different amounts, it can be used to protect the prostate from cancer as well; since the uterus is anatomically the same as the prostate in males; just like the ovary is the same as the testicle. The loss of progesterone results in more anxiety, insomnia, migraines, and since estrogen makes fat cells multiply, losing progesterone to counter this contributes to the after 40 weight gain. Most women don't even need estrogen, unless they are very thin with few fat cells. What is needed is progesterone. Unfortunately, gynecologist cannot see the big picture and still only recognize progesterones benefit as protecting the uterus and if a women doesn't have a uterus they can't see its other benefits. Besides, they don't usually treat the other problems caused by this deficiency. When given estrogen they should be given what Mother Nature normally supplied.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 23, 2008
    • 08:03 AM
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  • My liver enzymes went up when on prem pro. My blood pressure which is normally very good went up. My regular doctor told me to get off of them. I appreciate the five things the other women said to do, but some of us suffer more sever than ohthers and I have done all those things, and still miserable. It was interesting to hear of the with draw of the hormones, I wonder if that is why my hot flashes are so severe? but I was only on for 6 months, and have been off since April. anyway... I am going to a docotr who does the bio- identical hormones. Insurance doesn't pay for it though.Lynne
    LynneMari 1 Replies
    • October 7, 2008
    • 08:25 PM
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  • Bio-idential hormone pellets injected under the skin is the way to go...and don't forget the testosterone. It's the best! Most Gyns don't even want to mess with testoserone for women as scare you with getting more hair! I have been using for 2 years and don't have any problems like that. Just think about it...it's better as your body will only absorb how much it needs and does not have to be processed by your liver as does in a pill form. It's considered "investigative" therapy, but I don't care as it works over everything else I have tried! I have a medical flexible spending account at work so I can apply my treatment against that since I have a letter of necessity from my doctor on file. This cannot be FDA approved as each dose is unique to the patient so cannot be patented! They make their $ with patented drugs! Of course the big pharmacies DO NOT want women to know about this and try to deter you with scare tactics. We, women of the world, have to spread the word with no time to waste!!!!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 14, 2009
    • 10:47 PM
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  • And one last problem for some people on HRT My storyI was prescribed HRT because of early menopause because of worries about osteoporiesis. Back in the caribbean they could not get the one I was prescribed so they gave me another one.Later I discover that this is Estrogen only, I tell the doc who looks thing up in a book and says I am right. With the progesterone he prescribes I get break through bleeding after 10 years of no periods.So I decide to stop and heres the problem.I am now getting the most terrible hot flushes accompanied by an asthma attack and pumping rushes of blood and an urgency to urinate all at once.Heck I dont know what to do first, puff my inhaler, rush to the bathroom, try and dry off or lie down for the blood rush.WARNING HRT IS VERY ADDICTIVE for some people and the withdrawing is nasty.Premarin is horse oestrogens, about 30 to 2 human comapatible, google and find out, and no wonder you all get sick and cancer, plu the mares kept pregnant foryears and years... a horse lives to 33 given a fair life how many years of them catching(via a cannula?) the mare's urine... until she is sent to the knackers.. bio-identical to your own estrogens are available, plus you should be taking proper progesterone like humans produce...and that is not the patented stuff, chemically aletered so our bodies cant process it in the normal metabolic pathways. Get a grip! estrogen affects 300 sites around a body, and half of the alveoli which and do gaseous exchange of oxygen to blood, carbon dioxide out) DIE! in menopause with out estrogen! PLus estrogen reduces inflammation hence asthma, diabetes... go and search the net! Going without estrogen and progesterone to be a puritanical health freak is plain stupid. Will you take a phrma medicine for the refux? for the insommia? diabetes? loss of hair, allergies, cardiovascxular problems, swollen legs and and water retention? congestive Heart failure? go to it/. All of these are due to hormone deficiancy.I am a health fiend and I have had asthma since menopause and was 13 months from a permanent oxygen tank and a carer, until i realised what the reason was, and in no time I am hugely better.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
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  • Premarin is horse oestrogens, about 30 to 2 human comapatible, google and find out, and no wonder you all get sick and cancer, plu the mares kept pregnant foryears and years... a horse lives to 33 given a fair life how many years of them catching(via a cannula?) the mare's urine... until she is sent to the knackers.. bio-identical to your own estrogens are available, plus you should be taking proper progesterone like humans produce...and that is not the patented stuff, chemically aletered so our bodies cant process it in the normal metabolic pathways. Get a grip! estrogen affects 300 sites around a body, and half of the alveoli which and do gaseous exchange of oxygen to blood, carbon dioxide out) DIE! in menopause with out estrogen! PLus estrogen reduces inflammation hence asthma, diabetes... go and search the net! Going without estrogen and progesterone to be a puritanical health freak is plain stupid. Will you take a phrma medicine for the refux? for the insommia? diabetes? loss of hair, allergies, cardiovascxular problems, swollen legs and and water retention? congestive Heart failure? go to it/. All of these are due to hormone deficiancy.I am a health fiend and I have had asthma since menopause and was 13 months from a permanent oxygen tank and a carer, until i realised what the reason was, and in no time I am hugely better.Just Wondering What you are taking that made you feel better? i was just prescribed the estradiol patch and prometrium but an afraid to start - i don't want more side effects or more weight gain! i am trying to white knuckle my way through this!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 3, 2011
    • 06:59 PM
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  • Although most of us were told that we will loose estrogen as we age, this turns out not to be true. Estrogen is a hormonal family name. We make one during pregnency, a different one during our reproductive years and another after menopause dominates. Its made in fat cells. So, if a women has fat cells she has estrogen. Ceasing ovulation leaves us with another actual hormonal deficiency--progesterone. Progesterone is calming and protects the uterus from cancer; it does the same for breast and because men and women make the same hormones in different amounts, it can be used to protect the prostate from cancer as well; since the uterus is anatomically the same as the prostate in males; just like the ovary is the same as the testicle. The loss of progesterone results in more anxiety, insomnia, migraines, and since estrogen makes fat cells multiply, losing progesterone to counter this contributes to the after 40 weight gain. Most women don't even need estrogen, unless they are very thin with few fat cells. What is needed is progesterone. Unfortunately, gynecologist cannot see the big picture and still only recognize progesterones benefit as protecting the uterus and if a women doesn't have a uterus they can't see its other benefits. Besides, they don't usually treat the other problems caused by this deficiency. When given estrogen they should be given what Mother Nature normally supplied.Doesn't work for everyone. I am sensitive to progesterone and can't function if I supplement it -- it makes me cry, retain water, and nonfunctional. I take 75mg DHEA (makes estrogen and testosterone) and 30mg pregnenolone (makes progesterone) and that is all I can handle. This is an extremely high dose so don't you try it, but I want to state that what *I* am doing is completely natural. All the drug versions of estrogen aprogesterone are not natural and studies show they raise cancer levels. Go to www.lef.org and type 'hormone replacement' into their search window to learn about natural means of hormone replacement. Also get a doctor who will do natural hormone replacement. I found mine by asking lef.org if there were any physicians in my zip code who followed their practices. Then I got the lab that dispences natural hormones and they had a whole list of physicians who prescribed them. However this method, while safeand effective for most, did not do enough for me since I had established that my high blood pressure was hormonally related (only happened during PMS at first), etc, and the dose of estrogen the doctors would give me was not high enough to cancel it, I bailed and take DHEA which does control my blood pressure and is the only thing that consistently does so.
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  • Nice people on the forum!! Any of you guys live in proximity to Las Vegas and have though about getting your home cleaned then look me up. Thanks!
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  • HRT is really not recommended , you can go for organic treatment or search for hot flashes products that will suit you.
    dale91 143 Replies Flag this Response
  • oh my you've had some rough times with HRT, I have faired better. I also started in Jan 07 but with the Estradiol patch and prometrium tablet. No vomiting, just weight gain, water retention, increased fatigue, dizzyness and 2 periods after no bleeding for 2 1/2 years. The periods didn't start until the end of May and were only 15 days apart. I'm very perturbed about the weight gain and the total inability to lose weight no matter what I try. It's getting increasingly frustrating sitting in weight watchers meetings listening to everybody talk about all the weight they lose every week when I've worked so hard at it and lost under a pound!I also started CPAP therapy for sleep apnea about a month ago and my blood pressure went down considerably, although it never went up with HRT was just borderline with age. This is also supposed to help the fatigue and weight, but not yet. I also have been into menopause about three years. I'm putting on the weight and just received a perscription for HRT but I'm afraid to take it fearing I might be worse off. So I have been doing research instead and ran across information on a thing called insulin resistance which can actually fool your body into thinking it needs to hoard all the calories you take in. This occurs more commonly with menopausal and women who have dieted. Please google "insulin resistance and weight gain". Not to be confused with diabetes. I don't remember the exact link I looked at, but there are several links that come up. Here is another interesting link. Ignore the beginning about calculating body mass, there is wonderful information after that, however. http://www.menopausehysterectomy.com/weightgain.htm I also have done a lot of research on the benefits of magnesium which controls up to 300 different body systems. Here's an extremely informative article written by several unbiased doctores who have nothing to gain by publishing their research. http://www.danreid.org/health-alerts-inflammation-systemic-stress-magnesium-chloride.asp I am still in the process of trying to figure this out, but I feel hopeful that through the use of the right vitamin/mineral supplements, weight gain and effects of menopause can be managed without HRT. Has anybody tried bioidenticals?
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  • ditch all the drugs they only make you feel worse and then you will end up on other drugs for the side effects and it is an ever ending cycle!! Break it! I made it through menopausal symptoms by hanging in there and by these five important rules for good health1. Get plenty of rest 8-10 hours. You have had enough if you wake up without an alarm. Figure out what your body needs and get it. When you sleep is when your body heals itself. Not enough rest can bring all kinds of miseriesand illnesses2. Get plenty of exercise a 30 minute walk a day at a normal pace will do wonders. Add more and you will feel even better. Breathing deep and getting that heart pumping!3. Eat right and take a good multivitamin. Four -five small meals a day and 10 calories per pound of body is a good goal.4. Drink plenty of water 8-10 glasses a day just water not counting pop, tea, coffee. Water helps your body flush out toxins and excess fat.5. Have a good confidant friend, whether it is a friend, sibling, or spouse. You need someone you can share life with and laugh with. Someone that just make you smile and feel relaxed.If you can master these i'll bet your other miserable symptoms will disappear. Believe me i been there and done that and this advice came from a good friend and it works!!i super agree with you!
    dale91 143 Replies
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