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Retrograde diagnosis

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 4, 2007
  • 03:11 PM

I'm 47 year old male. Have been diabetic for 40 years. Never had any sexual problems until about 4 years ago. For at least 8 years that I can remember, my Hba1c has been in the none diabetic range. I'm fit, normal weight and active.

ED became a problem some 4 years ago and ejaculation seemed to fall off until I now do not ejacuate at all. As much as I've asked GP and diabetic specialists on my yearly clinic check-up, no one realy seems interested. I was eventualy sent to see a urologist who quite obviously was in the middle of other work and gave me 4 minutes of his time (I didn't even sit down), and declared that if I was diabetic, it was retrograde ejaculation and nothing could be done. When I said I was disapointed he gave me two containers and said to pas a sample after the next time I had sex. I returned with these and the analysis was that there was 'many spermatozoa' in the sample/s.

I know that the samples looked completely clear and given that I have read up on this and observed that usually urine would be cloudy if retrograde was the problem, then I'm just not convinced under the circumstances that diagnosis is correct.

My wife and I have a 5 year old child and want another - I'm at a loss to get to the bottom of this. I was told that my bladder does not close properly which partly causes this problem, but then why doesn't the GP send me to have an ultrasound scan done to confirm this? I have no urination problems so tend to think a lot of assumptions are easy for the GP and urologist to make.

During the 4 minutes I had with the urologist, he also diagnosed that I am 'suffering from a diabetic neuropathy to the nerves that produce his erections and allow the internal sphincter to contract at the moment of orgasm and ejaculation'. This assumption without any tests to confirm, also seems a little premature for a correct diagnosis do you not think?

Any advice and help would be appriciated. I'd be very pleased if you could refer me to any organisation that might be able to investigate and confirm what my exact situation is with regard to this.

Regards
David

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  • Hey DGA, I have been dealing with ejaculatory problems myself...I'm all over this forum mentioning it hoping for someone that knows how to end my suffering. My pain in that area is chronic, continuous since '93. It hurts like ***l to have an orgasm,and recently it doesn't even come out anymore. I go to a pain mgnt. center once a monthI learned the term, " retrograde ejaculation" there. My doc asked if by any chance I had that symptom along with everything else. I didn't get to ask about it then....my nextappt. is on 1-23, @ 10:30. I'll make a note to ask him about it and when I get home I'llexplain it in a thread right back here. So look back here on the 23rd, hopefully I will getan answer for us. PEACE
    remedy13 24 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 07:23 AM
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  • I'm 47 year old male. Have been diabetic for 40 years. Never had any sexual problems until about 4 years ago. For at least 8 years that I can remember, my Hba1c has been in the none diabetic range. I'm fit, normal weight and active. ED became a problem some 4 years ago and ejaculation seemed to fall off until I now do not ejacuate at all. As much as I've asked GP and diabetic specialists on my yearly clinic check-up, no one realy seems interested. I was eventualy sent to see a urologist who quite obviously was in the middle of other work and gave me 4 minutes of his time (I didn't even sit down), and declared that if I was diabetic, it was retrograde ejaculation and nothing could be done. When I said I was disapointed he gave me two containers and said to pas a sample after the next time I had sex. I returned with these and the analysis was that there was 'many spermatozoa' in the sample/s. I know that the samples looked completely clear and given that I have read up on this and observed that usually urine would be cloudy if retrograde was the problem, then I'm just not convinced under the circumstances that diagnosis is correct. My wife and I have a 5 year old child and want another - I'm at a loss to get to the bottom of this. I was told that my bladder does not close properly which partly causes this problem, but then why doesn't the GP send me to have an ultrasound scan done to confirm this? I have no urination problems so tend to think a lot of assumptions are easy for the GP and urologist to make. During the 4 minutes I had with the urologist, he also diagnosed that I am 'suffering from a diabetic neuropathy to the nerves that produce his erections and allow the internal sphincter to contract at the moment of orgasm and ejaculation'. This assumption without any tests to confirm, also seems a little premature for a correct diagnosis do you not think? Any advice and help would be appriciated. I'd be very pleased if you could refer me to any organisation that might be able to investigate and confirm what my exact situation is with regard to this. RegardsDavidWhy are you so hung up on being the subject of research. Western Medicine is arbitrary and they pick and choose what bundle of symptoms becomes a "disease" and what does not.No one could diagnose you with anything without knowing what kind of mineral/vitamin deficiencies you have. Also, what kind of things you put in your system.Do you exercise regularly?How is your diet? explain in detail.Do you drink milk, eat foods with hidden sugar,eat processed foods, eat foods with high protein intake?Are you exposed to chemicals or radiation at work/home?If you have ED, there is a reason why you have it- a diagnose does not point to the "why"- it explains what is happening and dictates a course of action, without knowing what is causing the ED in the first place.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 10:05 AM
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  • Why are you so hung up on being the subject of research. Western Medicine is arbitrary and they pick and choose what bundle of symptoms becomes a "disease" and what does not.No one could diagnose you with anything without knowing what kind of mineral/vitamin deficiencies you have. Also, what kind of things you put in your system.Do you exercise regularly?How is your diet? explain in detail.Do you drink milk, eat foods with hidden sugar,eat processed foods, eat foods with high protein intake?Are you exposed to chemicals or radiation at work/home?If you have ED, there is a reason why you have it- a diagnose does not point to the "why"- it explains what is happening and dictates a course of action, without knowing what is causing the ED in the first place.Your an IDIOT Does he eat foods with hidden sugar. How the ***l would he know? Chemicals and radiation, I think he would have done something. people get dx without their physicians asking about minerals & vitamins, every word you typed is a crock of ***t. Leave that poor man alone.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 06:44 PM
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  • Although I think the person who posted asking about diet did so in a very thoughtless and insensitive manner, I do think that diet could play a role in your problem. Especially with diabetes... And he/she is right about ED just being a label and not telling you anything about the "why" and Western medicine just doesn't focus on causes of disease. I think it would be a good idea to check your diet and eliminate dairy, especially cheese, as well as fried/greasy/processed foods. Your doctors sound like they are not doing enough. You should have an ultrasound to rule out any abnormalities or growths. And there is a reason WHY your bladder isn't functioning properly and they need to find out why. A good supplement that is easily found is called EmergenC. This stuff is fantastic and I recommend it for all men and women trying to make a baby. Take 2-3 packets a day. Also consider taking magnesium and potassium and eating lots of bananas (high in potassium). Also, the very best thing for diabetes to help regulate blood sugar is to take fresh whole limes (organic is best) and squeeze one lime in 1 quart of water. Drink this daily and watch your blood sugar stay on an even keel. I hope this helps you.Doctor of Oriental Medicine
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 11:16 PM
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  • My husband has retrograde ejaculation due to damaged nerves from abdominal surgery when he was a baby. We went to the Northern Nevada Fertility Clinic (Washoe Medical Center in Reno, NV) and were successful in concieving a daughter. They 'rinsed' my husband's bladder out with a blue liquid of some kind to neutralize the acidity. Then they filled his bladder, he did his thing, and they were able to aquire an acceptable sperm sample. They tried it three times and were only successful once. We were told that it was a long shot and that they had never tried it before, but it worked and I got pregnant on our first try at artificial insemination. Good Luck!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 10, 2007
    • 02:43 AM
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