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over sexed 5 year old child

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 5, 2009
  • 11:59 PM

I have a five year old grandaughter who we are extremely concerned about and don't know where else to turn or what to do. for almost 3 years this little girl has masturbated to the extreme, starting with water bottles to her hand and has unbelievable orgasms. we have had police involved , counselling, and most proffessionals we ring either don't bother even getting back to us or say they don't know how to deal with this problem. one counsellor told my daughter who has 3 other children to just allow her to go to her own room and do it when ever she wants. well it has now escallated to involving a little boy her age, of friends of my daughters who were visiting. and believe me thats just torn my daughter apart. My daughter is nearly at her wits end and doesn't know where to turn to and spends lots of time crying i'm afraid she is on the verge of a breakdown from the on going trauma this problem has caused within this family. please if there is any one with suggestions of help, or know of a medical problem this child may have we would greatly appreciate it. by the way she has unbelievable body odour for her age and i wonder if it's possible for her to be going through puberty at her age, everyone scoffs at me for this suggestion. desperately needing help.

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  • I have a five year old grandaughter who we are extremely concerned about and don't know where else to turn or what to do. for almost 3 years this little girl has masturbated to the extreme, starting with water bottles to her hand and has unbelievable orgasms. we have had police involved , counselling, and most proffessionals we ring either don't bother even getting back to us or say they don't know how to deal with this problem. one counsellor told my daughter who has 3 other children to just allow her to go to her own room and do it when ever she wants. well it has now escallated to involving a little boy her age, of friends of my daughters who were visiting. and believe me thats just torn my daughter apart. My daughter is nearly at her wits end and doesn't know where to turn to and spends lots of time crying i'm afraid she is on the verge of a breakdown from the on going trauma this problem has caused within this family. please if there is any one with suggestions of help, or know of a medical problem this child may have we would greatly appreciate it. by the way she has unbelievable body odour for her age and i wonder if it's possible for her to be going through puberty at her age, everyone scoffs at me for this suggestion. desperately needing help. The biggest hint is odor, what odors? Could she be going through precocious puberty? That would be an endocrin problem and could be detected by tests. Have you had her checked for infections and such? While obviously abuse was suspected was anything found that confirms such? While her behavior is relatively unusual, if no cause is found, trying to make her stop won't work and will cause far more problems than it is worth. If this is turned into a battle of wills the fight will never stop. I know that this may seem like a strange idea but I would consider the possiblity, if nothing else is found, that she is dealing with a past life situation whatever the actuallity is if there is nothing in this life to account for it. I've seen such past life issues (a description for lack of a better one), whatever the real causes, in children.
    Freddd 3576 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 06:36 PM
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  • My first thought was that an overreaction could have caused her to use the masturbation for attention. It just might be that (negative?) attention could have caused her to keep it up. I was told when my children were younger to never make a big deal out of it. Hope you are able to find a solution. I feel for your family!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 07:52 PM
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  • My first thought was that an overreaction could have caused her to use the masturbation for attention. It just might be that (negative?) attention could have caused her to keep it up. I was told when my children were younger to never make a big deal out of it. Hope you are able to find a solution. I feel for your family! My first thought also. One thing to consider is that object masturbation is rare in young children except of the lying on and humping the teddy bear type activity. Little kids teaching each other how to masturbate is not at all unusual. It's just that something doesn't quite seem to add up here. In decades gone by nannies from some countries would often rub the kids to quite and comfort them but that is not usually the case these days.
    Freddd 3576 Replies
    • January 9, 2009
    • 10:06 PM
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  • Perhaps it could have started with an itch from a candida infection or parasites/tapeworms. I would have a complete medical examination by a developmental child specialist, even if it means traveling to a larger city to seek out the diagnosis. She could have given herself a bacterial infection along the way, too.The doctor needs to also evaluate her for autism to determine if she is in the autism spectrum disorder. School will be difficult for the family but you will need the medical validation of a condition to keep the authories in check and also teachers and staff will need to learn behavior modification techniques to deal with this at school (a 504 plan or special education). A specialist can be brought in by the local school district to help with the behavior modification plan. It would have to be a highly skilled expert, however.I think if the child is home schooled, she will not learn how to live in society. Perhaps involvement with extra curriculum activities such as Girl Scouts or dance lessons would keep her busy...maybe arts and craft classes to keep her little hands busy in clay creating something she can see would be an alternative for her busy hands.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • January 10, 2009
    • 05:19 PM
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  • I agree with the over reaction and attention theory and I think the child will need some serious help now. Very sad story and situation.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 12, 2009
    • 08:18 AM
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  • Because you can't do that at school and better to be addressed by parent/doctor than school staff...
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • January 14, 2009
    • 00:22 AM
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  • I don't understand why some people are being judgemental here; I assume the poster or her daughter aren't making a big deal out of nothing. Yes, masturbation in children is normal and shouldn't be treated as something bad, and in doing so can cause psychological harm, but the poster obviously thinks this child's behavior does NOT seem normal, and who are we to judge what she says? She knows this child; we do not. If this child is including other children in her 'play' then of course a parent is going to be concerned. We have to remember how vigilant people are these days regarding child abuse, authorities take any 'extreme' or 'antisocial' or 'abnormal' behavior in a young child seriously, perhaps that is why police have been involved. The poster asked for advice or perhaps a bit of support. Even if this child's behavior ends up being completely normal, there is no need for people to basically tell the poster she is over-reacting. To the poster: if this child's behavior is starting to seriously affect her life and others (as it seems to be doing), then don't stop seeking help until YOU are satisfied.
    Nymphete 21 Replies
    • January 16, 2009
    • 09:04 AM
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  • This sounds like a serious endocrine problem. Something is going on with the pituitary. Squeezing it and making sex hormones be released too soon and way too much. Take her to a neurologist. It could be a result of hydrocephalus, Chiari Malformation, an adenoma, etc.From a now grown-up over-sexed child with now-obvious neuro conditions and also now a counselor.Good luck! Yes, masturbation in children is normal. What you described is not.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 29, 2009
    • 09:46 PM
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  • I wonder why people would scoff at precocious puberty as it isn't that rare? The little girl next door has a heart condition and precocious puberty but she has never done this type of thing. I am not surprised the caregivers are so worried! I wonder if this child is mentally normal? The grandmother doesn't say so I assume she appears normal otherwise. The body odor thing is the one thing that says to me that there is something quite wrong. 5 yr olds aren't known for being particularly strong from BO. I would see a pediatric specialist...start looking for brain problems. Parents know long before anyone one else usually and are more likely to have the best interests of the child at heart than anyone else. I have a five year old grandaughter who we are extremely concerned about and don't know where else to turn or what to do. for almost 3 years this little girl has masturbated to the extreme, starting with water bottles to her hand and has unbelievable orgasms. we have had police involved , counselling, and most proffessionals we ring either don't bother even getting back to us or say they don't know how to deal with this problem. one counsellor told my daughter who has 3 other children to just allow her to go to her own room and do it when ever she wants. well it has now escallated to involving a little boy her age, of friends of my daughters who were visiting. and believe me thats just torn my daughter apart. My daughter is nearly at her wits end and doesn't know where to turn to and spends lots of time crying i'm afraid she is on the verge of a breakdown from the on going trauma this problem has caused within this family. please if there is any one with suggestions of help, or know of a medical problem this child may have we would greatly appreciate it. by the way she has unbelievable body odour for her age and i wonder if it's possible for her to be going through puberty at her age, everyone scoffs at me for this suggestion. desperately needing help.
    Kymmaree 8 Replies
    • February 16, 2009
    • 08:13 AM
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  • I think if the child is home schooled, she will not learn how to live in society. This is rubbish! I've heard this for years, and after home schooling our two daughters, we've found that home schoolers' communication skills are above average. Our daughters, now 22 and 24, have college degrees in poli-sci and nursing. The elder has traveled all over Europe for school and work, and has been a trail guide on the Appalachian Trail, and is returning for her Masters degree this year. The younger is a nurse and happily married with 2 young children. This mentality of home schooling having a negative effect on kids shows ignorance of the facts.I can't comment on your little girl's reasons for her actions, (but I would rule out "past life" experiences). I was not even aware that children that age were able to achieve an orgasm. That's almost scary. I hope that you find the answer quickly. If the wrong person were to be around her at the wrong time, it could be treacherous.
    showme 15 Replies
    • February 20, 2009
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  • This is rubbish! I've heard this for years, and after home schooling our two daughters, we've found that home schoolers' communication skills are above average. Our daughters, now 22 and 24, have college degrees in poli-sci and nursing. The elder has traveled all over Europe for school and work, and has been a trail guide on the Appalachian Trail, and is returning for her Masters degree this year. The younger is a nurse and happily married with 2 young children. This mentality of home schooling having a negative effect on kids shows ignorance of the facts. I can't comment on your little girl's reasons for her actions, (but I would rule out "past life" experiences). I was not even aware that children that age were able to achieve an orgasm. That's almost scary. I hope that you find the answer quickly. If the wrong person were to be around her at the wrong time, it could be treacherous. We're not talking about communication skills; this is not normal behavior in society.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • February 22, 2009
    • 08:34 PM
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  • I have a five year old grandaughter who we are extremely concerned about and don't know where else to turn or what to do. for almost 3 years this little girl has masturbated to the extreme, starting with water bottles to her hand and has unbelievable orgasms. we have had police involved , counselling, and most proffessionals we ring either don't bother even getting back to us or say they don't know how to deal with this problem. one counsellor told my daughter who has 3 other children to just allow her to go to her own room and do it when ever she wants. well it has now escallated to involving a little boy her age, of friends of my daughters who were visiting. and believe me thats just torn my daughter apart. My daughter is nearly at her wits end and doesn't know where to turn to and spends lots of time crying i'm afraid she is on the verge of a breakdown from the on going trauma this problem has caused within this family. please if there is any one with suggestions of help, or know of a medical problem this child may have we would greatly appreciate it. by the way she has unbelievable body odour for her age and i wonder if it's possible for her to be going through puberty at her age, everyone scoffs at me for this suggestion. desperately needing help. For goodness sakes - has she been taken to a doctor or endocrinologist? Have you mentioned the strong body odor to the doctors? Does she have profuse sweating? What is her digestion like? How is her urination?How is her diet? Does she drink a lot of dairy and eat a lot of meat? Dairy products and meat products contain a lot of hormones, and contribute to the issue of early hormonal changes in young women. Organic dairy and organic meats do not have added hormones and are a much safer choice. Does she have brothers or sisters or both? How old are they? Does she sleep alone or with a brother or sister? Physical problems must be ruled out first. It is NOT normal to have body odor at that age. This should be stressed to the doctors, with the masterbation issues downplayed (most docs would just dismiss this issue as "normal"). Your daughter needs counseling IMO as it seems there is a power struggle between her and her daughter. Is there a father figure involved? How is her family life? Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • February 22, 2009
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  • I think if the child is home schooled, she will not learn how to live in society. If you're talking about the little girls' condition not being normal, I agree with you. It is something that definitely needs to be addressed. The stress on the family must be unimaginable. But I didn't read anywhere in the thread anything about homeschooling except for your one comment. It was uncalled for, unfounded and ignorant. It is also an insult for anyone who is, or has been, involved in home schooling.
    showme 15 Replies
    • February 22, 2009
    • 08:57 PM
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  • this may seem odd to most of the people who read this post, but i am sharing my idea for the sake of the child. Muslims believe in the existence of "jinns", a creation that lives in the parallel dimension with humans. they have the ability to make themselves appear to us at will and are able to enter our bodies and reside within as our souls do. when they make themselves appear, they are often labeled "ghosts" or "souls of dead humans". what caught my attention was the masturbating problem and the foul body odor at such a young age. one of the effects of jinn presence in a humans body is extraordinary bad behavior with no traceable reason or psychological trauma and because sometimes the jinns choose to reside in the abdominal and spinal area they cause unusually bad body odor in the host body whether young or old. Cure: Constant remembrance of the single omnipotent creator irritates the jinns and they leave the host body rather than put up with the constant torture. be sure not to mention any other deities or sons or prophets attributed with the creator. if you are unsure how to have the child understand or cooperate with this "meditation", contact a local mosque whose resident imam will read some passages from the Koran which deals with the remembrance of God. if you cannot get help nearby contact me by email and ill try to see if i can locate someone in your area. I sincerely hope you are relieved from this test in life.sir_vagabond@yahoo.com
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