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Celiac or Crohns?

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  • Posted By: info1990
  • December 19, 2008
  • 02:32 AM

A couple weeks ago I got hit with what felt like a fever,I suddenly got chills and weakness. The weakness lasted beyond a few days and still comes and goes. Previous to this,around November I noticed I was feeling weaker at work and further unable to perform extensive physical work without becoming abnormally fatigued.
Currently I have leftover from that fever a couple weeks ago diarrhea and now a burning sensation in my rectum,probably from going to the bathroom multiple times a day and occasional blood. Perhaps it could be an anal tear also.
I looked up the symptoms of both Celiac and Crohns,but I don't have the abdominal tenderness,pain,nausea,or loss of appetite that's associated with those. I do feel however I have the other symptoms.
My question is how long should I wait for something like this to pass and could it be possibly parasites or a virus of some sort? I've taken a myriad of herbs and things and has only helped slightly.
By the way I have no medical insurance or money.

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  • A couple weeks ago I got hit with what felt like a fever,I suddenly got chills and weakness. The weakness lasted beyond a few days and still comes and goes. Previous to this,around November I noticed I was feeling weaker at work and further unable to perform extensive physical work without becoming abnormally fatigued. Currently I have leftover from that fever a couple weeks ago diarrhea and now a burning sensation in my rectum,probably from going to the bathroom multiple times a day and occasional blood. Perhaps it could be an anal tear also.I looked up the symptoms of both Celiac and Crohns,but I don't have the abdominal tenderness,pain,nausea,or loss of appetite that's associated with those. I do feel however I have the other symptoms.My question is how long should I wait for something like this to pass and could it be possibly parasites or a virus of some sort? I've taken a myriad of herbs and things and has only helped slightly.By the way I have no medical insurance or money. What specific supplements or herbs have you tried? Do you have bright red blood or dark colored stools? Prior to your symptoms developing have you taken any antibiotics during the past six to eight months? How frequent are your BM's? Do you have tenesmus (urgency)? ARe your stools watery with undigested foods? Any mucus? Any urination problems? What foods do you eat daily? Do you have an appetite? Sorry for all the questions but it would help if you could answer them in detail. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 19, 2008
    • 03:16 AM
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  • What specific supplements or herbs have you tried? Do you have bright red blood or dark colored stools? Prior to your symptoms developing have you taken any antibiotics during the past six to eight months? How frequent are your BM's? Do you have tenesmus (urgency)? ARe your stools watery with undigested foods? Any mucus? Any urination problems? What foods do you eat daily? Do you have an appetite? Sorry for all the questions but it would help if you could answer them in detail. Certainly,I've been on another forum but got no responses so it's good to get feedback...As far as supplements,I've basically been trying to do ones for intestinal repair such as aminos,acidophilus,EFA,and aloe. My stools themselves are not really bloody,I think it's more some other possible damage,possibly a tear somewhere. I haven't taken any antibiotics or meds of any kind.BM's vary from a few times a day to everytime I even drink something. They're sometimes urgent as well. The stools are watery with little solidity. No mucus that I can see and no urination problems.I'm back to eating pretty much the same foods as I did before the fever,except I notice my sugar cravings have gone down since then so perhaps there was some good cleansing happening. Basically I usually eat scrambled eggs for breakfast with some juice. Sometimes I'll eat a small lunch...I've been trying not to eat anything too abrasive that may affect my intestines,so I've been eating like chili and things like that. Sometimes I'll only have tuna around. Wife usually likes to make dinner for everyone and her stuff usually consists of pasta,which I never really ate until I met her years ago. Since then I think my weight has been affected since I seem to be sensitive to carbohydrates(I may be diabetic).
    info1990 7 Replies
    • December 19, 2008
    • 05:28 AM
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  • My mom has chromes. I would say if you bled one time or just occasionally not to worry about. But if every time you went to the bathroom and there is blood, then i would worry. She stays in the bathroom alot.
    c.harris 3 Replies
    • December 19, 2008
    • 01:38 PM
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  • Herbal remedies to try would include slippery elm tea. Slippery elm helps with inflammation of the intestines. Very effective! Also if you have stomach upset, gas and bloating after eating foods, you should get a good quality digestive enzyme supplement with protease, amylase, lipase and other enzymes. I like Pan 8 by Progena but you can find others. Take a digestive enzyme tablet before each meal. Acidophilus is good, but you should try several brands of probiotic to find the one that will help you. I suggest one with at least 7 or 8 strains of beneficial flora. This will help rebuild your intestinal flora and support your immune system. Stay off sugar and processed foods. BTW a great source online is www.vitacost.com as they have great prices for supplements and a flat 4.95 shipping rate. I recommend this site to all of my patients. I feel you had a bad bout with stomach flu or food poisoning, but if your symptoms continue you should rule out other chronic issues. Do you live near a city? There should be a family clinic you can go to that will offer you reduced rates for doctor visits. If you can afford one and if you have one in your area I suggest a qualified acupuncturist and certified herbalist to help your symptoms. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 20, 2008
    • 04:04 AM
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  • Herbal remedies to try would include slippery elm tea. Slippery elm helps with inflammation of the intestines. Very effective! Also if you have stomach upset, gas and bloating after eating foods, you should get a good quality digestive enzyme supplement with protease, amylase, lipase and other enzymes. Acidophilus is good, but you should try several brands of probiotic to find the one that will help you. I suggest one with at least 7 or 8 strains of beneficial flora. This will help rebuild your intestinal flora and support your immune system. Stay off sugar and processed foods. I feel you had a bad bout with stomach flu or food poisoning, but if your symptoms continue you should rule out other chronic issues. Do you live near a city? There should be a family clinic you can go to that will offer you reduced rates for doctor visits. I'll try more slippry elm,thanks. Don't have stomach upset,bloating,or gas and I do take enzymes. As far as my immune system,I've heard the immune system is connected with the intestines and I think that's been affected with this b/c my immunity hasn't felt right since. Also I feel weaker than I did say a year ago. I cannot lift the heavy things I once did and this is really starting to concern me. The sugar and processed food is something that perhaps has caught up with me. Also I've been under more stress and I've heard that cortisol can really affect people long term. When you asked if I lived in a city I thought you were going to say city people have more of these problems,which may be a key b/c I never had any of this before moving to the city 5 years ago. I always joked these people are like cockroaches and they live through anything;) Btw I am flat broke and probably cannot afford an herbalist,I'm almost to the level of an herbalist myself so I would need someone to offer me other things to try. Actually I just need an accurate diagnosis as I don't have the money to be playing guessing games.
    info1990 7 Replies
    • December 20, 2008
    • 07:39 PM
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  • I'll try more slippry elm,thanks. Don't have stomach upset,bloating,or gas and I do take enzymes. As far as my immune system,I've heard the immune system is connected with the intestines and I think that's been affected with this b/c my immunity hasn't felt right since. Also I feel weaker than I did say a year ago. I cannot lift the heavy things I once did and this is really starting to concern me. The sugar and processed food is something that perhaps has caught up with me. Also I've been under more stress and I've heard that cortisol can really affect people long term. When you asked if I lived in a city I thought you were going to say city people have more of these problems,which may be a key b/c I never had any of this before moving to the city 5 years ago. I always joked these people are like cockroaches and they live through anything;) Btw I am flat broke and probably cannot afford an herbalist,I'm almost to the level of an herbalist myself so I would need someone to offer me other things to try. Actually I just need an accurate diagnosis as I don't have the money to be playing guessing games. Well, you certainly aren't going to get an accurate diagnosis online:rolleyes:, but you may get some opinions and try some things and see if they help you. Here is a great recipe for a rice congee (porridge) that is a food therapy I recommend to my patients: 1 cup short grain brown rice. Add 5 cups water, some sea salt, and bring to boil, then very slowly simmer this on a low burner for at least 3 hours and up to 8 hours. This slow simmering breaks down the rice and is very easily digested. You can add scallions and sesame seeds to this, or make it sweeter and add some raisins and a bit of honey. This congee is very fortifying and will help your Spleen function. I still think you should find a good probiotic to take and also take Rescue Remedy for your stress. There may be a free clinic you can find in your city where you can get a "proper" diagnosis. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 22, 2008
    • 03:16 AM
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  • I think things may be healing I'm not sure,the diarrhea has stopped for now and things are more solid. However there's some blood sometimes,probably from the slight straining as things still aren't flowing as smoothly as before. Thanks for the recipes and tips and we'll see how things turn out...
    info1990 7 Replies
    • December 22, 2008
    • 05:09 AM
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  • I think things may be healing I'm not sure,the diarrhea has stopped for now and things are more solid. However there's some blood sometimes,probably from the slight straining as things still aren't flowing as smoothly as before. Thanks for the recipes and tips and we'll see how things turn out... I have UC very close to crohns and think you get a colonoscopy and/ endoscopy to know for sure. dont mess around. the consequense of both are severe if not treated properly. Question is the blood on the tissue or mixed in with the stool. FYI, Celiac is an allergic reaction to gluten and would probably not result in blood in the stool. you lose a lot of weight (wasting) with celiac. You could have either crohn;s or ulcerative colitis. It all depends on what parts of you intestines are inflammed. Only a colonoscopy with biopsies can know for sure. Tell me more about you symptoms and I can probably steer you alittle. Also, you can do a simple blood test for celiacm, probably would not cost much even if you had to pay out of pocket. you could then rule that out before going down the colonoscopy route.
    jjustinia11 20 Replies
    • December 22, 2008
    • 06:52 AM
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  • I have UC very close to crohns and think you get a colonoscopy and/ endoscopy to know for sure. dont mess around. the consequense of both are severe if not treated properly. Question is the blood on the tissue or mixed in with the stool. FYI, Celiac is an allergic reaction to gluten and would probably not result in blood in the stool. you lose a lot of weight (wasting) with celiac. You could have either crohn;s or ulcerative colitis. It all depends on what parts of you intestines are inflammed. Only a colonoscopy with biopsies can know for sure. Tell me more about you symptoms and I can probably steer you alittle. Also, you can do a simple blood test for celiacm, probably would not cost much even if you had to pay out of pocket. you could then rule that out before going down the colonoscopy route. Thanks,but I think it may be subsiding. There's less blood/soreness than before. It was probably that bacterial infection.
    info1990 7 Replies
    • December 25, 2008
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  • Actually right now I seem to have flareups in certain instances,mostly when I eat too much or the wrong thing. So perhaps it could be the allergies I've suspected for awhile now.
    info1990 7 Replies
    • December 25, 2008
    • 02:29 PM
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