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Rheumatoid Arthritis?

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  • Posted By: VinniV
  • December 28, 2007
  • 08:40 PM

I was originally diagnosed as having tendonitis in my left wrist after lifting something too heavy, in mid-November. However December 10th, I began experiencing aching in the inter-phalangeal joints of my toes and the following day the same joints also ached in my fingers. The affected joints do not include my big toes, thumbs, little toes or little fingers, but the aching is exactly the same on both right and left side of my body.

Several days later my left wrist began hurting again but so too did my right wrist indicating that it was not tendonitis, either that or just a coincidence. A few more days past and I began experiencing occassional stabbing pain in the joints as apposed to the original aching. Also both my ankles and knees began hurting during cold weather for a couple of days but I have not experienced it again since. My hip occassionaly hurts but nothing too serious. Both pain and aching is relieved by a heat source. The aching has now begun occuring in the knuckles in my fingers and above the cuneiforms of my toes but still present in my proximal inter-phalangeals. Light stiffness occured at non-regular intervals in my fingers and toes since December 19th. The pain in my joints has developed into a stabbing feeling like a needle being inserted over and over again.

By December 22nd my toes began feeling "warm" but not to touch, just the feeling of being warm as opposed to aching or pain. December 23rd, my toes began aching constantly and my toes make cracking noises when I curl them. Also now when my fingers "crack" they have begun feeling "warm". I now feel the need to crack my fingers and toes all the time to alleviate the symptoms. I'm begining to think I may have Rheumatoid Arthritis. My blood test results taken from 1 week before my fingers and toes started aching, had normal WBC and RBC levels. Today (December 27th), my fingers and toes ache worse than they have felt since this all began 3 weeks ago. I never take medication for anything but am seriously considering taking Paracetamol or Ibuprofen. I have no swelling or redness around the affected joints. Does this sound like RA because I am missing several symptoms but I can't find any other diagnosis that fits either.

Also the symptoms are worse in the evening and at night, especially if I have been doing activites during the day and then stop for a period of time. Stiffness does not occur in the morning despite having rested for a long period of time. I'm only 21 years of age.

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  • I have very similar symptoms for around six months. I have come to the same conclusion as you, my blood tests even come back normal. All the doctors I have seen think I am imagining my symptoms and cant tell my what is going on.I think you have to just keep pushing your doctor and tell them what tests you want.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 31, 2007
    • 00:35 PM
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  • It's interesting that your doctors think you are imagining it. I have a lecturer at university whom I have got quite close to and she had RA, and today I was having a totally paranoid moment where I thought my symptoms where sympathetic. However I honestly do believe that I have a problem. I was just looking at the classification list for RA and I have very few of them.1. Morning stiffness lasting at least 1 hour.2. Soft tissue swelling of at least 3 joints.3. Swelling of proximal inter-phalangeals and metacarpophalangeals.4. Symetric pain.5. Subcutaneous nodules.6. Positive test for rheumatic factor (RF).7. X-ray erosions.The problem is that the doctor will say that of the above 7 I only have 1; 2 at best and you need 4 for a diagnosis. Although I did read somewhere that you can have a negative RF/ANA test and still have RA. It's rare but called Seronegative Rheumatoid Arthritis and the outlook is much more positive. I hope you get the answers you need soon Roy.
    VinniV 4 Replies
    • January 1, 2008
    • 03:36 AM
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  • I am 36, and also have many "medical mystery" symptoms and pains. I have had more lab tests than any person should. I tested neg. for RA and ANA. My RBCs are high, my WBCs are low and my sed rate is anywhere from a 33-45. I also show some sort of anemia, but my iron and B12 are both within the normal ranges. I am so stiff-jointed in the mornings or after I have set for a while. My fingers, neck, wrist, feet, ankles, and most of my long bones continually hurt. If I get in the sun for too long, I get flu-like symptoms, but the doctors continue to tell me I do not have lupus or arthritis or anything else. It is very frustrating.I was originally diagnosed as having tendonitis in my left wrist after lifting something too heavy, in mid-November. However December 10th, I began experiencing aching in the inter-phalangeal joints of my toes and the following day the same joints also ached in my fingers. The affected joints do not include my big toes, thumbs, little toes or little fingers, but the aching is exactly the same on both right and left side of my body. Several days later my left wrist began hurting again but so too did my right wrist indicating that it was not tendonitis, either that or just a coincidence. A few more days past and I began experiencing occassional stabbing pain in the joints as apposed to the original aching. Also both my ankles and knees began hurting during cold weather for a couple of days but I have not experienced it again since. My hip occassionaly hurts but nothing too serious. Both pain and aching is relieved by a heat source. The aching has now begun occuring in the knuckles in my fingers and above the cuneiforms of my toes but still present in my proximal inter-phalangeals. Light stiffness occured at non-regular intervals in my fingers and toes since December 19th. The pain in my joints has developed into a stabbing feeling like a needle being inserted over and over again. By December 22nd my toes began feeling "warm" but not to touch, just the feeling of being warm as opposed to aching or pain. December 23rd, my toes began aching constantly and my toes make cracking noises when I curl them. Also now when my fingers "crack" they have begun feeling "warm". I now feel the need to crack my fingers and toes all the time to alleviate the symptoms. I'm begining to think I may have Rheumatoid Arthritis. My blood test results taken from 1 week before my fingers and toes started aching, had normal WBC and RBC levels. Today (December 27th), my fingers and toes ache worse than they have felt since this all began 3 weeks ago. I never take medication for anything but am seriously considering taking Paracetamol or Ibuprofen. I have no swelling or redness around the affected joints. Does this sound like RA because I am missing several symptoms but I can't find any other diagnosis that fits either. Also the symptoms are worse in the evening and at night, especially if I have been doing activites during the day and then stop for a period of time. Stiffness does not occur in the morning despite having rested for a long period of time. I'm only 21 years of age.
    NoMoreDr.s 2 Replies
    • February 3, 2008
    • 04:17 AM
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  • I have had RA for a few years and now costro chondritis. I don't think you could crack your knuckles if they were inflamed with RA 'cause it's too painful. Maybe you have some other form of arthritis? Also pins and needles feelings usually comes from nerve issues, so maybe it's carpel tunnel or something along those lines? If you do have even just a few RA symptoms the blood test will reveal it; the other symptoms don't come right away. All in all a healthy diet and plenty of fresh air and rest will help somewhat. If you don't get any answers from your Dr. I suggest try another Dr. to see if his diagnosis is the same or not. I also suggest you keep a log to discuss with your Dr. so he can better diagnose you. Good luck to you and God Bless!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 13, 2008
    • 04:51 AM
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  • I was originally diagnosed as having tendonitis in my left wrist after lifting something too heavy, in mid-November. However December 10th, I began experiencing aching in the inter-phalangeal joints of my toes and the following day the same joints also ached in my fingers. The affected joints do not include my big toes, thumbs, little toes or little fingers, but the aching is exactly the same on both right and left side of my body. Several days later my left wrist began hurting again but so too did my right wrist indicating that it was not tendonitis, either that or just a coincidence. A few more days past and I began experiencing occassional stabbing pain in the joints as apposed to the original aching. Also both my ankles and knees began hurting during cold weather for a couple of days but I have not experienced it again since. My hip occassionaly hurts but nothing too serious. Both pain and aching is relieved by a heat source. The aching has now begun occuring in the knuckles in my fingers and above the cuneiforms of my toes but still present in my proximal inter-phalangeals. Light stiffness occured at non-regular intervals in my fingers and toes since December 19th. The pain in my joints has developed into a stabbing feeling like a needle being inserted over and over again. By December 22nd my toes began feeling "warm" but not to touch, just the feeling of being warm as opposed to aching or pain. December 23rd, my toes began aching constantly and my toes make cracking noises when I curl them. Also now when my fingers "crack" they have begun feeling "warm". I now feel the need to crack my fingers and toes all the time to alleviate the symptoms. I'm begining to think I may have Rheumatoid Arthritis. My blood test results taken from 1 week before my fingers and toes started aching, had normal WBC and RBC levels. Today (December 27th), my fingers and toes ache worse than they have felt since this all began 3 weeks ago. I never take medication for anything but am seriously considering taking Paracetamol or Ibuprofen. I have no swelling or redness around the affected joints. Does this sound like RA because I am missing several symptoms but I can't find any other diagnosis that fits either. Also the symptoms are worse in the evening and at night, especially if I have been doing activites during the day and then stop for a period of time. Stiffness does not occur in the morning despite having rested for a long period of time. I'm only 21 years of age. I very much doubt that you have RA because of a couple of reasons. RA is wrose in the mornings and gets better as the day goes on. First thing in the morning you would be very stiff and achey.....and it takes a goodly while to 'get going', often an hour or more. Also, with RA you wouldnt be able to crack your fingers and toes as the pain would be excruciating. I also think that you would have to be on some medication because of the pain. RA also makes you sleepy and sufferers can sleep 20 hours a day and still not feeling rested when they wake up. Its a type of sleepiness that is hard to describe but its very difficult to ignore it. There are a a lot of other things that could explain aches and pains. Depression is one, over wroking your joints without warming up first, fibro is another condition or CFS. Noone other than a doctor can say whether you may or may not have RA, but from your description it really doesnt sound much like it. Hope you have some answers soon though :)
    RubyRainfall 6 Replies
    • August 12, 2009
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  • VinniV I realize your post was 4 years ago but I have been searching in vain for the past several months for means to identify my mystery ailment. I am writing to you because my symptoms mirror yours. The difference being that it started with extreme pain and swelling in my right hand a month later happened in my left hand, then my feet and left knee. Pain in my feet and knee subsided some months ago but pain in hands and wrists persists with same feeling of "warmth" you describe. Over the past 14 months, I have been seen by (1)Orthopedist who based on my stated symptoms ordered an mri (c-spine). Results were "unremarkable" he referred me to (2) a Neurologist - EMG was negative. Was then referred to (3) a Rheumologist - blood work negative for RA, Lupus and Lyme. In the meantime, my Primary Physician ordered a brain scan, also negative. (4) My primary then referred me to another Neurologist, a specialist at Johns Hopkins - EMG and skin biopsies negative. Neurologist referred me to (5) a Rheumologist, also a specialist at Hopkins. Blood work remains negative for RA 13 months after initial tests. MRI on both hands revealed nothing other than "degenerative cysts", Ultrasound revealed nothing. I have been on a variety of anti inflamatory drugs (pills and topicals) as well as Gabetronin (sp) nothing eases the pain. I am wondering (assuming you still check in with this thread) if your illness was ever diagnosed?????????????? It's been 4 years, I am hoping someone figured out what is wrong and has prescribed a treatment that worked for you. I am 47 years old. "VinniV;75702]I was originally diagnosed as having tendonitis in my left wrist after lifting something too heavy, in mid-November. However December 10th, I began experiencing aching in the inter-phalangeal joints of my toes and the following day the same joints also ached in my fingers. The affected joints do not include my big toes, thumbs, little toes or little fingers, but the aching is exactly the same on both right and left side of my body.Several days later my left wrist began hurting again but so too did my right wrist indicating that it was not tendonitis, either that or just a coincidence. A few more days past and I began experiencing occassional stabbing pain in the joints as apposed to the original aching. The aching has now begun occuring in the knuckles. By December 22nd my toes began feeling "warm" but not to touch, just the feeling of being warm as opposed to aching or pain. December 23rd, my toes began aching constantly and my toes make cracking noises when I curl them. Also now when my fingers "crack" they have begun feeling "warm". I now feel the need to crack my fingers and toes all the time to alleviate the symptoms. I'm begining to think I may have Rheumatoid Arthritis. My blood test results taken from 1 week before my fingers and toes started aching, had normal WBC and RBC levels. Today (December 27th), my fingers and toes ache worse than they have felt since this all began 3 weeks ago. Also the symptoms are worse in the evening and at night, especially if I have been doing activites during the day and then stop for a period of time. Stiffness does not occur in the morning despite having rested for a long period of time."
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