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Frozen Shoulder

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  • Posted By: Diane Lane
  • November 7, 2006
  • 04:29 PM

I am travelling europe at present and having a lot of pain in my shoulder and the top muscle in the same arm. I had a quick visit to the UK in August when my doctor thought it was a frozen should and thought physio would help. I had not time to go through with this, thinking I will go back when I return to the UK next year. In the meantime I am having a lot of pain in the muscle in the top of my arm as well. Is this all connected to the frozen should? Help would be appreciated.:(

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  • Hi DianeA true frozen shoulder is where the muscle adheres to the underneath of the scapula (shoulder blade). This causes a great deal of lack of movement and anything from awful pain to agony.You will have trouble putting the arm above your head and putting it behind your back.If you haven't got this lack of range of movement it MAY be something else.Get to a REALLY good sports or remedial massage therapist and get them to also look at the Infraspinatus, deltoid and coracobrachialis and don't forget the front of the upper arm/shoulder joint just in case it is isn't a frozen shoulder. There are always exceptions to rules! Wish I could have a look to sort you out, alas, I hope this goes some way to help.Good LuckDBJPS if you want to give me more symptoms ie: when it hurts doing, what movement, I'll try to help more.
    musclemadness 6 Replies
    • November 7, 2006
    • 05:05 PM
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  • Hi "musclemadness"!!!This is probably not a case of frozen shoulder, however you seem to know a lot about joints/shoulders! Are you able to tell me if there are any exercises/stretches/anything to prevent my shoulders from "popping out"? They do not fully dislocate (and I am not one of those people with easily dislocatable or loose joints - in fact, quite the opposite!), but click numerous times when I: 1) lift my arm/s up; 2) rotate my arm/s; 3) stretch my shoulder muscles/deltoids, etc; and 4) sometimes if I am lifting something heavy they start to pop out! Do you have any explaination or treatment ideas? It has only started in the past 2 or so years but is a bit painful at times. I am worried that it may lead to arthritis or something later on in life. I am a relatively fit female 18/19 year old, ex-gymnast (although it was Rhythmic Gym, not the one where you do flips and get real muscly, etc!) - did gym for around 5-6 years and quit 4 years ago (just for backround info, in case it is relevant).I also have been getting pretty bad pain in my right wrist in the past year. I have had it seen to once and the occupational therapist (kind of like a physio) said the bones in my wrist were all sort of "locked"/stiff so she made them looser by massage, etc. But it is still really painful, I cannot lean on my hand very hard, and it gets worse after not using my wrist for a while.Do you have any explainations or anything for me?Thanks a lot.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 18, 2007
    • 03:59 PM
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  • Actually, i would tend to disagree with you, musclemadness.A frozen shoulder could be a result of ANY muscular dysfunction, not just a case of the subscapularis muscles sticking, although that is a very common cause of frozen shoulder.A suffer should first see if it's a local muscle causing it. I tend to do this by local massage to the area and see if that helps the condition or not.If it truly does make it better, you might be on to something. Just make sure you're not confusing it with the symptoms going away instead of the cause.If it makes no difference, and this is more common with nagging, dull aches, it might be a case of a refered pain from a different muscular dysfunction.A Remedial Massage Therapist might be suitable for this. If you are in any doubt at all, go see a doctor. It is always better to be safe than sorry.*************http://www.healthmechanics.com.au
    The Health Mechanics 5 Replies Flag this Response
  • Actually, i would tend to disagree with you, musclemadness.A frozen shoulder could be a result of ANY muscular dysfunction, not just a case of the subscapularis muscles sticking, although that is a very common cause of frozen shoulder.A suffer should first see if it's a local muscle causing it. I tend to do this by local massage to the area and see if that helps the condition or not.If it truly does make it better, you might be on to something. Just make sure you're not confusing it with the symptoms going away instead of the cause.If it makes no difference, and this is more common with nagging, dull aches, it might be a case of a refered pain from a different muscular dysfunction.A Remedial Massage Therapist might be suitable for this. If you are in any doubt at all, go see a doctor. It is always better to be safe than sorry.*************
    The Health Mechanics 5 Replies Flag this Response
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