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Streptococcal Blood Bacteria (flesh eating) plz help

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  • Posted By: BeautifulStranger
  • December 26, 2007
  • 07:24 PM

Hi everyone,
First I am so glad I came across such informatic website :) Happy holidays all! ok, I need everyones input and help on this problem.
Last Sept. I had (Chondromallecia Patella) both knees caps were displaced due to inner thighs muscle weakness and outer thighs were stronger and thus r pulling both patellas out! I plus I have knock/lock knees and very high arch foot. I was on Physio ever since, and was on a wheel chair all sept! :( When I first had this problem, my knees were on fire, sever pain, couldn't walk, swelling and sorness, still gets sore untill now and still get a burining feeling. My Doctor back then done a CT scan and blood tests and no rhumatoid problems, except that the CT showed fluids in both knees and my ASO Titre was active (233). He mentioned that the ASO Titre and my symptomts (Joint/knee pain due to patella displaced, fluids on the knee, burning feeling, very sore throat though no fever, back and shoulder pain, muscle pain, eyes burning, pelvic/pelvis joint pain especially the very lower back) that are due to Streptococcal bacteria infection. That really scared me cause I researched about it and found out the amount of damage such bacteria can cause since it's running in my blood. So I was on an antibiotic to treat the bacteria for three weeks, then I was on an inflationary medicine for two weeks cause my knees still get sore after physio and exercising. and now am only using an anti inflationary knee patch on both knees cause still after exercising or using my legs lots, the above of my knee cap gets sore and start feels like burning underneath.

Now my question is, how can my doctor be sure only from "symptoms" that I have a Streptococcal bacteria infection??? and is there any specific lab test that can determine what is the cause of high ASO titre in my blood test? or one specific to confirm the excistince of this bacteria group? Also, should I see another doctor? or a rhemutic or cardio md?
Does anyone recommend an alternative medecine method to treat this bacteria? also for my knees?
after three months of treatment, I have done a new blood test and the ASO titre showed it went lower only one point, yet still active! should I worry? cause honestly I am freaking out because i am not feeling well, am worried about this kind of bacteria, and am having discomfort in my left chest, sort of a wet feeling inside yet with slight pain, but not a rib one.
I am 24, healthy, slim, vegetarian/Macrobiotic. I don't drink or smoke. I confess that I have a stressful life, back when I was 21 i had a heart attack, and a minor one a year after. I have recovered fine and all is good. except for this current problem.
I appreciate all ur insight and help

Thanks everyone, PEACE ~ HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Ann

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  • Wow, sorry to hear of your troubles. What antibiotics were you prescribed? How long did you take them - did you take them orally or through IV? Either way, you should be on a good quality PROBIOTIC to rebuild your intestinal flora, and thus improve your immune function. You can get a good PROBIOTIC at any health food store, or online at www.vitacost.com I cannot answer your blood test questions, but in regards to alternative or complimentary medicine, I highly recommend finding an Oriental medicine practitioner who specializes in Chinese herbal medicine. Find someone who is NCCAOM (nationally) certified in Chinese herbology. Many chinese herbal formulas have antibiotic properties. Often Chinese herbs can help when you have a antibiotic resistant bacterial infection. Please look into this. Also, acupuncture is very helpful for balancing the body and getting your knees back in shape. As for your diet, I was a macro/vegan for several years in my early twenties. I was very very thin, and not very healthy. This diet is very hard to do well - I found it almost a full time job trying to keep my diet in balance. Please get a good quality supplement, and especially methylcobalamin B12 - you can find this as a sublingual, Jarrow makes a good one. B12 is very very important for stress and the nervous system...usually very deficient in veggie diets. I recommend a sublingual B12 every other day... Your heart attack at age 21 is troubling - why did this happen? Did you suffer from an eating disorder? Do you have any continuing heart problems? Please try acupuncture. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 26, 2007
    • 07:39 PM
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  • Hello Acuann,Thank u so much for ur Reply. I was on Forticef-250 (two packs, containing 15 capsules per pack). Then on Reparil-Dragees. (one pack, containted 40 pills, three times a day) all were taken orally.I never thought about Chinese herbal medecine, but I will look into it, I hope I will find a good trusted place where I live. Otherwise, accupunture is avialable.Oh! I've been taking green magma pills from a very long time (Barley Grass u know!) it's a good sourse for vitamine B Complex, don't u think? As for my heart attack, I was going through a very difficult time of my life, it was not due to health problem which is a good think, it was due to stress and sadness. Thanks for the advice :)Peace ur way~Wow, sorry to hear of your troubles. What antibiotics were you prescribed? How long did you take them - did you take them orally or through IV? Either way, you should be on a good quality PROBIOTIC to rebuild your intestinal flora, and thus improve your immune function. You can get a good PROBIOTIC at any health food store, or online at www.vitacost.com I cannot answer your blood test questions, but in regards to alternative or complimentary medicine, I highly recommend finding an Oriental medicine practitioner who specializes in Chinese herbal medicine. Find someone who is NCCAOM (nationally) certified in Chinese herbology. Many chinese herbal formulas have antibiotic properties. Often Chinese herbs can help when you have a antibiotic resistant bacterial infection. Please look into this. Also, acupuncture is very helpful for balancing the body and getting your knees back in shape. As for your diet, I was a macro/vegan for several years in my early twenties. I was very very thin, and not very healthy. This diet is very hard to do well - I found it almost a full time job trying to keep my diet in balance. Please get a good quality supplement, and especially methylcobalamin B12 - you can find this as a sublingual, Jarrow makes a good one. B12 is very very important for stress and the nervous system...usually very deficient in veggie diets. I recommend a sublingual B12 every other day... Your heart attack at age 21 is troubling - why did this happen? Did you suffer from an eating disorder? Do you have any continuing heart problems? Please try acupuncture. Best wishesDOM
    BeautifulStranger 4 Replies
    • December 26, 2007
    • 08:33 PM
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  • AcannI have to ask though, what did u mean by NCCAOM?? :) and do you/does any one know if this kind of bacteria can be successfuly treated with alternative medecine? or methodwill still look into that accan
    BeautifulStranger 4 Replies
    • December 26, 2007
    • 08:40 PM
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  • NCCAOM stands for National Certification Committe for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine, and is the US certification organization for acupuncturists and Oriental medical practitioners. This is the standard used by most states in the US (tho some still don't have any licensing standards, like Michigan and a few others). Visit www.nccaom.org for more info. Here is a link on Chinese herbs and infections: http://www.tcmpage.com/hpinfections.html Most infections and formulas given are for upper respiratory, gastrointestinal, and genitourinary infections. But Chinese medicine is very specialized and concentrates on individual signs and symptoms. There is no one formula I would recommend to treat your staph. I do think it would be helpful though. The greens is good, but I would still recommend taking a methyl B12 supplement as it is very well assimilated in the body, and hard to get from nonmeat sources (sea vegetables have some B12, but not in high doses). You may also look into NAET, tho this treatment may be controversial. I was diagnosed with an underlying Staph/Strep infection in March of 07, after having a severe bout of sinusitis. Went to a NAET practitioner and they cleared me for this infection, and my symptoms improved overnight. NAET stands for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Techniques, and it is revolutionary, noninvasive, and has worked for many people...though it is not for everyone. What state do you live in? Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 27, 2007
    • 02:45 AM
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  • Excellent information DOM :) Thanks for the heads up! what chinese formula do u recommend, and are u a health pro? :)Wow! I am amazed! so ur infection is completley gone? did u get to the point where u had batermia? I will research more on that (NAET) thanks. I know a doctor who is specialised in lung problems and allergey chronic disease...not sure if that is what u meant or similar. the thing is! I don't live in the U.S:confused:NCCAOM stands for National Certification Committe for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine, and is the US certification organization for acupuncturists and Oriental medical practitioners. This is the standard used by most states in the US (tho some still don't have any licensing standards, like Michigan and a few others). Visit www.nccaom.org for more info. Here is a link on Chinese herbs and infections: http://www.tcmpage.com/hpinfections.html Most infections and formulas given are for upper respiratory, gastrointestinal, and genitourinary infections. But Chinese medicine is very specialized and concentrates on individual signs and symptoms. There is no one formula I would recommend to treat your staph. I do think it would be helpful though. The greens is good, but I would still recommend taking a methyl B12 supplement as it is very well assimilated in the body, and hard to get from nonmeat sources (sea vegetables have some B12, but not in high doses). You may also look into NAET, tho this treatment may be controversial. I was diagnosed with an underlying Staph/Strep infection in March of 07, after having a severe bout of sinusitis. Went to a NAET practitioner and they cleared me for this infection, and my symptoms improved overnight. NAET stands for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Techniques, and it is revolutionary, noninvasive, and has worked for many people...though it is not for everyone. What state do you live in? Best wishesDOM
    BeautifulStranger 4 Replies
    • December 27, 2007
    • 04:58 PM
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  • HI!A doc can tell from symptoms +ASLO test that is streptococcus.Usually it first causes a tonsillitis (inflamation of the amigdals) then, it migrates to u'r joints, and loves the knee. Now as for ASLO it's called anti streptolizin O. This test does not show that u have bacteria in u'r blood, it shows the antibodyes u have to fight it. When there's bacteremia u are at ICU department. So not to worry for this issue. Second, it would be wise to do a strep-culture. Wich is an antibiogram, to cultivate this ******d and see to what atb is sensibil to(usually penicillin does the job). The most imp issue u have to worry bout is u'r heart, cause strep "kisses the koint but bites the heart. So u should do an echo. And also doublecheck u'r aslo titer. Now if u've done this and it comes back ok, only then worry with the "alternative" medicine. Hope this helps a bit.....
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
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