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what do you think this sounds like?

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  • Posted By: itsallyoueverdo
  • March 25, 2007
  • 05:32 AM

ok, this is something that has only happened to me twice, and both times it's happened at a concert. the 2nd time was probably worse than the first
what happens is, i'll get a little dizzy and light headed, and then all the sudden i get nauseous. i sat down with a water bottle, and something would happen with my hands.. ill try my best to explain it.
they'd tingle, and they would go stiff... but my fingers would get pushed all ontop of each other: my middle finger is on top, the ring finger and pointer under it, my pinky under that and my thumb gets pushed under towards my pinky (did that make sense?)
the tingling went up my arms, and i could feel it in my feet and my legs, and my legs would start shaking.
having the water helped a little bit, but i was given some hi-c drinks and some food and everything was back to normal
everyonce in a while now i'll feel a little light headed, so i know i'm not 100% still
but i dont know if it could be hypoglycemia? hyperventilating? i dont know!
thoughts?

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  • I heard someone use the term "Stiff person syndrome" on something that sounds a bit like what you're going through...maybe check it out?
    Aethumus 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • Could be potassium deficency
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • What you are describing is a textbook example of an anxiety attack. It usually starts with a stressor (good stress can bring it on too, unfortunatley) then without you knowing it you begin to hyperventilate. Then the chest pain and tingling start (especially in the hands, feet, and or around the mouth). Then if the breathing rate is not reduced the hands and/or feet will begin to spasm just as you described--with the fingers moving over each other. This is very painful. If the breating rate continues to be high you will pass out. This is the body's way of "resetting" itself. It realizes that you are not going to slow your breathing so it takes over. Basically you are poising yourself with too much oxygen. Now for the good news!!!! As soon as you feel any of the symptoms start, slow your breathing. It is easier if you have a friend or family member who can coach you down by getting you to talk, hold your breath, or just slow your breathing. It can, however, be done by yourself. If it happens at another concert I would reccomend getting out of the crowd and getting to a little quieter place which will help. If nothing seems to help do not hesitate to call 911 and get a medical professional to assist you. (We do it all the time and are glad to help if you need us.) Please note: this is NOT all in your head. What is taking place is caused by anxiety/stress, but the symptoms are real and don't let anyone tell you that they aren't. If this persists and becomes a problem you can't control seek medical help. There are a number of medications and calming methods that can be of great help. You may grow out of this or it may be a life long problem--but it is manageable.
    emsbabydoll 73 Replies Flag this Response
  • Dear Readers,I recently had the same situation with my stomache, mostly bloating pressure and left hand side pain, well it turned out to be ovarian cancer and I just went under a major surgery so if you are a female reader or male this may be caused by your ovaries or colon. so please don't be too relaxed thinking it is just your stomache ache this could be alot more serious, make sure you check yourself for an ultrasound immediatley, good luck.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • wow, thanks for that! although, I just have one question. The first time it happened to me I was put in an ambulance (a lot of people were passing out so they had 2 ambulances outside at all times, I think it was because it was so cold outside and so warm inside some people just couldn't handle it). The 2 guys in the ambulance did give me an oxygen mask, and took my blood pressure. All they told me about that, it was 60, which is "half of what its supposed to be", and they gave me a hot pretzel because of the saltCould an anxiety attack or hyperventilating cause my blood pressure to drop that low? What you are describing is a textbook example of an anxiety attack. It usually starts with a stressor (good stress can bring it on too, unfortunatley) then without you knowing it you begin to hyperventilate. Then the chest pain and tingling start (especially in the hands, feet, and or around the mouth). Then if the breathing rate is not reduced the hands and/or feet will begin to spasm just as you described--with the fingers moving over each other. This is very painful. If the breating rate continues to be high you will pass out. This is the body's way of "resetting" itself. It realizes that you are not going to slow your breathing so it takes over. Basically you are poising yourself with too much oxygen. Now for the good news!!!! As soon as you feel any of the symptoms start, slow your breathing. It is easier if you have a friend or family member who can coach you down by getting you to talk, hold your breath, or just slow your breathing. It can, however, be done by yourself. If it happens at another concert I would reccomend getting out of the crowd and getting to a little quieter place which will help. If nothing seems to help do not hesitate to call 911 and get a medical professional to assist you. (We do it all the time and are glad to help if you need us.) Please note: this is NOT all in your head. What is taking place is caused by anxiety/stress, but the symptoms are real and don't let anyone tell you that they aren't. If this persists and becomes a problem you can't control seek medical help. There are a number of medications and calming methods that can be of great help. You may grow out of this or it may be a life long problem--but it is manageable.
    itsallyoueverdo 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • It can cause you to "vagal" which is stimulation of a large nerve that runs through the length of the body. This nerve controls blood pressure and heart rate. It is part of the reason you pass out with a severe anxiety attack. I would keep an eye on your pressure, though--you can use the machine at the pharmacy and keep a mental note when you see your doc. Normal is 110 to 120 over 70 to 80. Some people are natually higher or lower. If you are on the low side already you are more apt to pass out. If you are dehydrated already and have a panic attack you lose even more fluid each time you breathe, partially because of your mouth being open as you breathe. Normal breathing rate is 12-20 breaths per minute. Hyperventilation can be as fast as 70 breaths per minute. You normally lose fluid with each open mouth breath (this is part of the reason we are designed to be nasal breathers) in hyperventiliation you are losing up to 3 1/2 times more. To get an idea of the fluid lost just breathe with your mouth open for a few minutes and you will see how dry it gets. Now imagine that magnified by 20-30x and it will make perfect sense.What the medics did by giving you salt was move fluid that is trapped in the cells of your body to your blood stream. This temporarily increased your blood pressure until you had a chance to normalize.I hope this helps. But just because you have an answer don't neglect to discuss this with your doc. It is an important piece of medical information and can be linked to other diseases or stress patterns in your life. He/She may also want to run some tests to establish norms and rule out any other cause--CYA (cover your ***) as we say. It never hurts to get the final OK from your physician.If you have any other questions feel free to post them and I will answer to my best ability.Good Luck and God Speed
    emsbabydoll 73 Replies Flag this Response
  • Also remember that sometimes it's impossible to tell whether you're stressed out or anxious. The other day I had a friend tell me I was acting extremely stressed out. I said that I didn't feel stressed but then a few days later I looked back and realized just how stressed I actually was. Even if you can keep a cool head and go, "This situation doesn't bother me at all", your body and subconcious mind still get stressed.So, just don't think it's in your head. I've had anxiety attacks and panic attacks before and they're no fun. Mine weren't as bad though.
    Aethumus 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • I would look into hypoglycemia, especially as you felt better with the HiC and food. Get a glucose tolerance test and have them check for this. Also, dehydration - how much pure water do you drink daily? If your pee is dark yellow, you are definitely dehydrated, and this can cause all sorts of problems, including anxiety, pain, numbness, joint ache... Do you skip meals? If you are hypoglycemic, you need to eat at least 4 small meals a day to keep your blood sugar in balance. Nutritional deficiencies may also be playing into this, so you might want to also research that (docs know very little about this, and tests aren't always accurate - at the least you should be checked for anemia). Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
  • You might also want to visit a cardiologist to make sure there isn't anything wrong with your heart in the event "anxiety" isn't enough of an answer, or possibly even a neurologist as it could be a brain related issue.If you look at statistics however, a significant percentage of people who go to the ER with symptoms of heart attack are actually having an anxiety attack.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
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