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What's wrong with me again? "Feverish", tired and in pain!

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • April 28, 2007
  • 07:14 PM

One of the almost-daily things that happens to me is that I get a "slight" fever! It happens at some point in the day, but varies. Sometimes it is in the afternoon such as now and sometimes in the evening. It is always around 99.3-100.1. I know that is not really a fever, but I FEEL FEVERISH and always know when it is happening. I do not get really red either when this happens. Sometimes my cheeks turn pink. I do not think it is hot flashes. It is from my neck up. What the heck is this?

Here are my other symptoms:

severe fatigue since college (in late 30's now). I am fine on a light schedule for a few days and then I "crash" and need to sleep longer than usual and will have a hard time waking up. Like 12-13 hours.
Dr. 8 years ago thought I had mixed connective tissue disease. I saw one Dr. wrote a dx of fibromyalgia on a billing sheet, but never told me I had it. Rheumatologist said I did not meet all of the criteria to be dx Fibro, but had most of the symptoms.
I had chronic appendicitis (the pain localized and became worse over a period of months) 10 years ago, had appendectomy.
have "regularly occuring" kidney stones (calcium oxalate),
joint pain in my hands, knees, hips.
In the last 3 months, I started getting severe pain and swelling in my thumb (not the joint between the palm and thumb), but in the upper digits. The swelling receded a bit, but now my thumb clicks when I bend the upper joint.
I just found out I have a fatty liver while getting an u/s for my kidneys.
overweight -- due to the fatigue I gained 80-100 pounds in the last 10 years.
headaches, used to get migraines (with the zig zag aura), but haven't had one in 9 months.
some tingling/numbness in my hands and perhaps feet. Big toes hurt.
sometimes tongue gets swollen.Lab Work:

My lab work is nearly perfect. Thyroid is always in normal range, though one dermatologist thought for sure I had cushings, but the tests did not prove it. I have perfect cholesterol, triglycerides and sugar. I even passed all of the lab work for getting life insurance. I have had 2 normal EKG's.
The only abnormal lab tests have been an ANA (1:320 or 1:160 and once 1:80) and a sedimentation rate in the 20's. My B12 is low and I am taking B12 injections. I am negative for RA and all of the tests for lupus, scleroderma as of 4 years ago. I also had low-normal progesterone levels and took prog. supplements to become pregnant. Pregnancies were fine, thought my joint pain increased in my last trimester.

The facial/neck hotness bothers me and I FEEL feverish when this happens.
I also have L4, L5 herniations, though that pain has improved.
I have also gotten pneumonitis 3 times this year and have had 2 sinus infections with it.
I also have a lot of flank pain that I know could be from the kidney stones, but now I wonder if it is my liver since it is usually on the right side.
I don't feel depressed (well, only when I miss an activity because of fatigue), but do take a light dose of zoloft (30 mg) for anxiety since childbirth 2 years ago.
I seem to be having problems with my short term Memory...perhaps even long term. I used to test people's memory, so I am pretty sure I am having a problem with my memory and certainly concentration (though I could write this letter).Any suggestions or recommended tests for any of the above would be greatly appreciated!

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  • Please try this for a month, see what happens? Totally avoid all bread (including pizza etc), red meat, and chicken. Tinned tuna you can have. Diary and eggs are okay and good for B12 - if you are not allergic to them (in the usual sense). Avoid alcohol as it contains yeast. Take plenty cooked veggies but no spinach.Also first thing every morning you should take a urinary alkalinizer. We get a good one over here called Citro-Soda, containing sodium bicarbonate, tartaric acid, citric acid and sodium citrate. It's safe over the long term. Only beware, taking more than indicated can make one feel awful. Never eat hot spices, especially curry. Drink more fluids - not carbonated, and no Ceylon tea or coffee.Get an homeopathic remedy for gout at a health shop, we have one here called "Gichtin" that works well. Also get one for nervous tension: "Resque Remedy" or "Nervuton" to replace Zoloft.But the above are just emergency fixes, to start with immediately. You will find scores of posts on these forums with very similar symptoms to yours, and where many expensive doctors could do nothing. Have you been tested for Rickettsia (tick fever)? There are many types. Also take a look at www.ahummingbirdsguide.com/treatingme.htm concerning M.E.So what can be done? Please read what Eatafruit78 says at http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=13092 - visit www.naet.com to locate a therapist in your area. A traditional Chinese doctor is another great idea, see www.acufinder.com to locate one.
    Curly Stooge 319 Replies Flag this Response
  • M.E. M.E. go to www.ahummingbirdsguide.com i have the same sx for 4 years...just found this site...it's a God-send....take a look, please
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  • I also have no doubt you will find these posts interesting -http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showpost.php?p=42284&postcount=10http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showpost.php?p=42295&postcount=20http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showpost.php?p=42182&postcount=18 Remember to read these external pages (in full please): www.drcarley.com and http://members.aol.com/doctorrmosk/articles/hidden.htm - thank you.
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  • Hi Curly, I have read all your posts and the links. Wow. I never understood opposition to vaccinations, but I do now! I am really confused! Not so much about the health stuff...but about the why???? As for your suggestions....avoiding the bread, red meat and chicken for a month...do you mean to decrease my exposure to candida..the red meat and chicken have antibiotics promoting overgrowth of candida? Is that why? I am guessing you mean no spinach because of the oxalate levels? And then when combned with the ceylon tea that will cause my kidney stones? I thought at first I had gout with the thumb thing, but the Dr. said no. It wouldn't hurt to treat it, despite the Dr. saying it was not gout? One Dr. (rheumatologist) REFUSED to test me for Lyme disease. Is that the similar to Ricketsettia? Just a different "spirochete"/disease caused by a different vector/tic? I do drink Orange juice (crave it in the am). It does contain citrate... is this a "light version" of the urinary alkalinizer you are describing? Obviously, I need this suggestion! Sorry so many questions! I am just incredulous....shocked at what I did not see what was in plain site regarding vaccinations....I now recall my daughter was hospitalized around 18 months of age with the thought that she had bacterial meningitis. I'll need to look back and see if this is before or after her MMR vaccine. Thank you for the links and advice...sorry with all the questions. I believe I will figure this out one day, but it is quite mind boggeling in the meantime.
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  • First, I don't know anything about anything - I was just lucky to get tips from various local healers. I thought you would have better luck there in first world countries, seems not to be the case. Remember only take homeopathic drops (directly on the tongue) while there are no other tastes in the mouth. Yes, treat the gout. My own mother has just such a thumb and often a big toe, the doctor finds no gout, yet the homeopathic stuff plus the diet takes it away completely. Orange juice is bad with bread (serious acid) IF meat and chicken are added. After a month without bread, meat and chicken, you may find that you can take bread and fruit together again. Your thumb will tell you when it gets too much. Well this has now been the experience of 2 cases here. Mind you I like meat and hope to try it again one day, perhaps after NAET treatments. Scores of family and friends with spinal injury, gout, rheumatism, arthritis, muscle pain, haemorrhoids etc. have also tried this (no bread, no meat etc) and it worked perfectly. The one that failed had serious tick fever, which required specific antibiotics. But the hospital first treated her (almost to death) for rheumatoid arthritis. Two sets of doctors got different test results. It seems tick fever can become reactive arthritis, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_arthritis - so it seems one needs careful blood tests, for that whole range of tick bacteria (I don't know Lyme, sorry). Ticks are now everywhere due to the climate, birds etc. Friends in Hamburg (North Germany) even report that they now have malaria there, around the airport. For arthritis (any of the 150 different kinds) you need to get rid of excess uric acid, same as for bladder infections. Meat and chicken cause acid and are furthermore ******n the immune system, more toxic and different from other foods when they digest, and yes this is made even worse by what the animals are fed/med with. They also affect your frequency a lot (chakra stuff). By changing that for a while you fight bugs better. Ceylon tea is very bad for kidneys, it causes sharp crystals that get stuck in the tubes. It also depletes our iron. I may have been wrong about spinach for you. It depletes our calcium. People with too little should avoid it, while those with arthritis resulting in calcification, should eat more of it. Much depends on stuff they add to the food, for example any small piece of Nestle chocolate puts me & others in bed for 2 days, but even a lot of expensive Lindt from Europe does no harm at all. Our local pure tinned tomato is bad for me & others, but imports from Divella or Spigadoro (Italy) do no harm, and taste a lot better. How many people with crazy kids go on feeding them the same brands? Even brands of baby food? How does a small child explain s/he has sinusitus etc? I really think there is evil behind it: the very big food companies creating problems that the pharma companies can get money for. So we need to keep an eye (as best we can) on what we eat and what it seems to do to us. The Chinese doctors say that beer is very good for kidneys. I know of one girl where this was a miracle remedy. NOT beer from the USA though. Get high quality light beer from Germany or the Czech Republic, it tastes better too. Boost your immune system all you can. Get homeopathic Resque Remedy or Nervuton. Add Vitamin-B12 (complex), Omega-3 (salmon oil) and of Vitamin-C 1000 mg (slow release). If you use supplements already, be sure not to overdo it! Too much of certain vitamins can have the results you describe. But you can take quite a lot of Vitamin-C and even tablespoons full of Omega-3. The best Omega-3 is kept bottled in a freezer in the health shop, not in caps. Avoid heated oil (cook veggies in water and flavour with unheated extra virgin olive oil) and avoid processed foods (containing hydrogenated vegetable fat, additives etc). No margarine please, use real butter. Look for Trocomare salt (by Dr A. Vogel of Switzerland) in the place of "smooth flowing" salt. Be sure to include cabbage (lots), garlic, potatoes and butternut. Colloidal silver is a truly miraculous cure (I could write you a book about our experiences). See www.nutrasilver.com for a type you can take internally. Here in ZA we brew it at home. It has proven consistently better than any med or antibiotic, for almost any problem. If it is correctly made there are no side effects. See www.tetrahedron.org/articles/colloidal_silver.html I see you found the Hulda zapping at http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showpost.php?p=41730&postcount=6 .. Download her book, it's one part of the solution. Your body can regain the upper hand, vaccines or not. You ask why? There have always been two sides in our part of the universe, "a storm in a tea cup" between the Service-To-Self and Service-To-Others groups. This is just one level up from our ordinary consciousness, we can say on a soul level. The Service-To-Self have always hijacked religions and states to some extent. They seem possessed, to the point of not even pretending otherwise, as mere earthly success is not their aim. They literally want to qualify for powerful positions in ***l. These links, www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t25.htm and www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta369.htm should give you the idea. It is very hard to accept, but take note at least. The best healers I've known have long ago admitted this to me as practical reality. One added, "If it was easy, there would have been no point." But see how gravely the Zetas respect the right of all souls to choose their way - while also explaining the consequences. As for increased illness in general, see www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0712.htm It is said the earth will be facing an apocalyptic transformation very soon, and your current Admin knows it - hence their suicidal behaviour. We are supposed to be honoured to live now (as long as we can) because it will be the greatest adventure in 3657 years. This depressing epic is however still part of "this world", as *****t called it. There are higher levels than polarity - appearing to be in philosophical contradiction to lower levels. One of the highest level books is "A Course In Miracles", which can help us understand and accept - even enjoy.
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  • Dear Curly...You seem to be a wealth of extremely useful information...Thank you for asking others to consider the information on my posts and for sending others links for me...I appreciate all of the info, links you have provided...PLEASE keep it coming...I am open to every tidbit of info I can get at this point...I'm good at seperating/ things I can use vs. things that would be difficult ie...classes...no money...Thank you for being a part of our quest and I'm sure others feel the same way I do...again...Thank you...mommy cat
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  • Here is a very useful site: www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm especially www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ - the plans I explained do work for now, but I'd better bring in their basic ideas as well.Also look at www.westonaprice.org/soy/complaints.html whole page (!) and http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm .. There is a lot of soy in commercial bread and many other products. Thyroid "normal" seems not to count for much.
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  • Is this a new development? My preschool daughter recently tested positive for MONO! She's 5! The Dr. told me she was in the convalescent stage. She probably had the active (?) infection 3-6 months ago. She was also positive for EBV. I believe all her other tests were normal: CBC, Chem and Thyroid. She is maybe slightly overweight, but doesn't seem to eat more than other kids....not that much junk, either. She has had eczema since she was 3 (under right eye, inner elbows, and wrists). We sometimes use the Elidel cream prescribed by the pediatric dermatologist. She tends to get petecchiae sometimes under her eyes, along with the eczema. She is allergic to Penicillian. She was hospitalized at 18/20 months for 4 days, initially thinking she had bacterial meningitis....the ER docs thought she was going to die and were frantic to get the spinal tap. I guess they thought this because the petecchiae were popping up as they examined her on her arms and legs. Turned out to be a "really bad virus"...the official diagnosis. She does have trouble sleeping....falling asleep mostly. I can outsleep her, even if we go to bed at the same time. She needs to be exhausted before she'll fall asleep. I have given her Benedryl to help her fall asleep (per Dr.'s suggestions & also for her itchiness)...and sometimes, she'll even ask me for the "sleepy medicine". From day 1 she has been a terrible sleeper....even slept with her eyes a little open as an infant, fooling me into thinking she wasn't asleep as I held her. No behavioral problems..she is very bright. She has dark circles under eyes that won't go away. My toddler, a great sleeper, also has the dark circles now! Also, petecchiae under the same eye as my daughter! What do you think? Any connection to me? Should I get tested? And my toddler? (I was told "no, not unless he is having any symptoms of Mono"...but then, I didn't notice it in my daughter, except for a day with a slight fever). Do we all have the same thing? It is one thing for me to suffer...but not my children. Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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  • Please see http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Mononucleosis - "In children .. infection seldom causes more than a very mild illness which often goes undiagnosed." There is no cure, only keeping an eye on the spleen, avoiding caffeine etc. But it seems you all have more symptoms than can be covered by mono alone - which should not continue for that long, either? Therefore, boost the immune system. Also find therapists who treat the whole person.Do you live within the (large) area of the New Madrid fault? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Earthquake - you may be having geopathic stress. Water keeps moving under the ground due to this fault line. The levels of lakes even rise and fall dramatically there.And this doctor (famous researcher) says we should drink quite a lot of water and also salt: www.phenomenews.com/nov2005/0a.htm - try to get Trocomare salt by Dr A. Vogel of Switzerland, in the place of "smooth flowing" salt. Interesting, compelling story and cheap to try. This may be why marathon runners are so addicted to their running, they take plenty water and salt. My mom and I have only now tried this for some days, it works very well already.For the eczema / excema, please stay far away from cortisone creams, read the labels! Doctors love handing out the stuff, but it can cause incredible damage, short and long term (and many doctors say so too). In particular it is very bad for skin, not to mention the risk to children they may later have. It only has some place in emergencies, to avoid death. Another warning - anything with comfrey is the one alternative remedy NOT to take, please see http://www.henriettesherbal.com/blog/?p=637Best I know of at present is to cover excema with a cotton cloth (where possible) under which you keep camphor cream (aqueous cream with smelly camphor oil) as permanently as possible, as it has to stay wet. Don't wash the area too often with soap, only with water. Dab on colloidal silver (made with distilled water). This silver is also a good cleanser / deodorant. Taking it internally is even better. Maybe see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eczema as well.From this page, www.curezone.com/clark/ consider reading www.curezone.com/clark/allergies.asp and also your other symptoms. Dr Clark is very controversial and a bit extreme, but it is one angle to consider. Scan your environment for toxins, such as non-organic heavy metals. Cook only in fireproof glassware, not in steel, and above all not in aluminium. Beware of isopropyl alcohol, never use anything with "prop" in the contents (easier said than done). Consider pollution in your neighbourhood.In your mind, demand of whatever loitering spirits may be around to make themselves useful and show you the problem - they often obey, some days later.
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  • One of the almost-daily things that happens to me is that I get a "slight" fever! It happens at some point in the day, but varies. Sometimes it is in the afternoon such as now and sometimes in the evening. It is always around 99.3-100.1. I know that is not really a fever, but I FEEL FEVERISH and always know when it is happening. I do not get really red either when this happens. Sometimes my cheeks turn pink. I do not think it is hot flashes. It is from my neck up. What the heck is this? Here are my other symptoms:severe fatigue since college (in late 30's now). I am fine on a light schedule for a few days and then I "crash" and need to sleep longer than usual and will have a hard time waking up. Like 12-13 hours.Dr. 8 years ago thought I had mixed connective tissue disease. I saw one Dr. wrote a dx of fibromyalgia on a billing sheet, but never told me I had it. Rheumatologist said I did not meet all of the criteria to be dx Fibro, but had most of the symptoms.I had chronic appendicitis (the pain localized and became worse over a period of months) 10 years ago, had appendectomy.have "regularly occuring" kidney stones (calcium oxalate),joint pain in my hands, knees, hips.In the last 3 months, I started getting severe pain and swelling in my thumb (not the joint between the palm and thumb), but in the upper digits. The swelling receded a bit, but now my thumb clicks when I bend the upper joint.I just found out I have a fatty liver while getting an u/s for my kidneys.overweight -- due to the fatigue I gained 80-100 pounds in the last 10 years.headaches, used to get migraines (with the zig zag aura), but haven't had one in 9 months.some tingling/numbness in my hands and perhaps feet. Big toes hurt.sometimes tongue gets swollen.Lab Work:My lab work is nearly perfect. Thyroid is always in normal range, though one dermatologist thought for sure I had cushings, but the tests did not prove it. I have perfect cholesterol, triglycerides and sugar. I even passed all of the lab work for getting life insurance. I have had 2 normal EKG's.The only abnormal lab tests have been an ANA (1:320 or 1:160 and once 1:80) and a sedimentation rate in the 20's. My B12 is low and I am taking B12 injections. I am negative for RA and all of the tests for lupus, scleroderma as of 4 years ago. I also had low-normal progesterone levels and took prog. supplements to become pregnant. Pregnancies were fine, thought my joint pain increased in my last trimester. The facial/neck hotness bothers me and I FEEL feverish when this happens.I also have L4, L5 herniations, though that pain has improved.I have also gotten pneumonitis 3 times this year and have had 2 sinus infections with it.I also have a lot of flank pain that I know could be from the kidney stones, but now I wonder if it is my liver since it is usually on the right side.I don't feel depressed (well, only when I miss an activity because of fatigue), but do take a light dose of zoloft (30 mg) for anxiety since childbirth 2 years ago.I seem to be having problems with my short term Memory...perhaps even long term. I used to test people's memory, so I am pretty sure I am having a problem with my memory and certainly concentration (though I could write this letter).Any suggestions or recommended tests for any of the above would be greatly appreciated!have you looked at a disease called brucellosis? There is a chronic, systemic form which can be in your system for years and effects many of the organs, joints.
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  • UPDATE:Comments, Please!BRAIN MRI FINDINGS::confused: "The ventricles are normal in size and confiuration. The FLAIR and T2 weighted images demonstrate a few scattered punctate areas of increased signal intensity in the white matter. However, there is no evidence of recent infarction. No mass or abnormal enhancement is appreciated. There is no subdural hematoma." I received a copy of this report in the mail because I requested a copy of the MRI. My PCP who ordered the MRI has not returned any phone calls. However, the receptionists feel free to offer their diagnositic skills in lieu of an appointment. :rolleyes: If you diagnosed sarcasm, you dxd correctly! But....would love ANY impression of the Findings...I expect answers from here regardless if you are a receptionist or NOT!:)
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  • You might think of TB or meningititis
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  • I thought of gout also.
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  • I once felt the same . check your scalp for white blotches . if you see white blotches spray tinactin on them .
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