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viral infection I can't get rid of after 4 months

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  • Posted By: mdstone
  • May 15, 2009
  • 03:11 PM

Since late January this year to present (May) i've had what I believe to be a viral infection that I cannot get rid of. Symptoms include:
Blockage of the nasil passage (blocked nose & runny nose) - This was a major problem to start with and was the very first symptom. I can put up with a blocked nose for a day or two like when you have a cold or flu but this went on for over 2 weeks. I tried decongestants for this which only seemed to passify the problem. Otrivine nasil spray worked best.
Excessive discharge of Mucas - This has been constant since the begining. Through the nose when sneezing and blowing mainly.
Constant sneezing (lasts for a few days then goes) - I have days where I cannot stop sneezing and then days when I only sneeze once or twice. I believe this is my body's way of getting rid of the virus.
Itchy Ear (slight loss of hearing & ear infection symptoms) - Due to constantly blowing my nose I think the infection passed on to my ears. The inner ear became itchy and they 'popped' regularly.
Sore Throat - Lasted for only 1 day recently and went. Possibly this is to do with build of of phlem in my throat.
Coughing (tickling & chesty cough) - This was the last symptom I had, although mild to start with it has recently become very irritable. Coughing up phlem is a constant occurance and is now my main problem.
Occasional headaches - Doesn't happen a lot but has occured a few times during the past few months.

Doctor has not been able to give a proper diagnosis. They have suggested sinusitus/alergies (similar to hay fever) and have pescribed Antibiotics (the doctors answer to everything!), steroid type nasil spray (to help with the nose problems) and tablets to help with the alergy type symptoms.
I'm now due to return to the doctors as I have still not managed to shake off my illness.
How I caught this I have no idea but it could have originated from december when I played football outside in the cold wheather and took in a lot of cold air into my lungs
Any help with this would be much appreciated.

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  • OK I am no docbut I have raised two kids and I cure my own issues without the docsand don't touch the steroids ever- after seeing what they have done to my asthmatic friends- unnec. hip replacements from overexposure and she still has the asthma!So- ditch the antibiotics because as soon as they are done you are lit. NAKED to anything that comes down the pike.The antibiotics kill your GOOD bacteria or your defensive line for any attacks. NOT GOOD. So, you want to go herbal and get stronger not weaker!Infact I am making the documentary to share as we speak so meanwhile first see this one :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqxj0UfE5b0&feature=channel_pagebut since you are in pain get clove (single oil under Essential Oil tab )and put it on your throat for soreness, stuffy head and for the clogged ear tubeuse Eucalyptus Radiata- (single oil under Essential Oil tab )apply directly under ear and go down the throat with 1-2 drops of oil. Under the skin is a tube- this will open it and your ears will drain (this will open anything you need to have open sinus, lungs, etc... simply place on the area where the organ or tube is located. ) you can do eye ducts but only at night when eyes stay closed - fumes get into eyes and issirtate- and it should be a very thin film/layer because you don't want it IN the eye. BE CAREFUL. also get Thieves (blended oil under Essential Oil tab) for the "bug" that is giving you these side effects- symptoms. Place 2 drops on the souls of your feet and sleep and drink lots of water and Orange Juice. Try to pee out the bug if you can. NO MORE PHARMACEUTICALS - all they do is cause more issue- I have seen it on this forum and many others- TV etc... Documentary explains why. And why these herbal supplements/oils are the only way to go : )they are therapeutic grade on this site- unlike other merchandise sold in other places which are adulterated and not processed properly.www.youngliving.org/gil(stay away from GNC- their stuff is not the stuff you get above!)OH- and if the mucus still doesn't go get Thyme and place this one the under tip of the tongue (use a smear from the thread of the bottle- potent stuff) and tap it on onceit BITES but will stop the phlegm you can also put it on your feet souls1 drop on each foot- kills bug dead!!The three most potent oils and the five most critical to have at home:REVIEW1. clove cuts head symptoms and sore throat2. thyme and cuts phelgm3. oregano kills what thieves can't 4. thieves is the flu, put on feet oil 5. Eucalyptus Radiata opens everything (ear tubes, sinus, lungs, tear duct(CAREFUL ON THE LAST ONE) oils are not to be put near eyes generally but I did it for the latter and it took one night for the duct to be almost completely open and then a teensy weensy bit more that morning- fumes were still strong BTW. Opened it right up! you will do this for yourself and teach others so they can also learn.
    founddog 188 Replies Flag this Response
  • I agreee with founddog's suggestions and her comments on pharmaceuticals....I will not touch an antibiotic for anything. I have some suggestions in addition to the Young Living product (these are GREAT products, but VERY expensive...then again, you truly get what you pay for and they are the best essential oils on the market. period). Please get yourself Dr. NeilMed's SinusRinse and learn to use this twice a day, just like brushing your teeth. You can find this at Walgreen's or any good pharmacy...it is FANTASTIC and once you get the hang of it you will use this regularly. Also, consider finding a good chiro,naturopath, acupuncturist, or other wholistic doc to help get you back on your feet. Herbs are fantastic for viral and bacterial infections. Oil of Oregano is great stuff and will kick out a sinus infection much more effectively than antibiotics IME. Colloidal silver is helpful as well. If you have allergies, and it sounds like you do, then try stinging nettle or bromelain. The SinusRinse will help this problem as well. Please consider this approach and be VERY wary of docs trying to push steroids and long term antibiotics on you - these drugs will cause so many more problems! Get yourself a good quality PROBIOTIC with several strains of beneficial flora to help rebuild your ravaged immune system. You can find this at any good healthfood store. I like Jarrow and NOW brands. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
  • Well, the people answering your inquiry are not medical doctors but they continually appear here to peddle absolute nonsense. I'm surprised that they didn't include the need for a stool sample as well. You have a post-viral syndrome and the reason that your respiratory symptoms remain a problem is due to bronchiolitis. The symptoms will wax and wane from day to day, a little better then a little worse. Some patients have also complained of a foreign body sensation in their throat, which is due to the pharyngeal membranes being dry and sinus drainage, as well as complaints of mild inspiratory crackles which can be heard through the mouth and are relieved by coughing. The syndrome has been observed to last several months in some cases, but will self-resolve. You can spend your money on all the herbal nonsense you wish to, but none of what these people describe has any sort of curative effect or clinical efficacy with regard to post-viral syndrome. It will, however, empty your wallet. You can help relieve symptoms by making certain that you don't over-use your air-conditioning, which will further irritate the mucous membranes and if you have a humidifier, use it. Drink clear liquids and stay away from dairy products for the time being. If the phlegm is greenish in color or you notice striated blood in the sputum of your cough, then I suggest you have your doctor obtain a plain chest film if not already performed to make certain that a lobar pneumonia is not present. Other than that, the syndrome will self-resolve as most viral infections do, which is why these folks are suggesting that you buy all sorts of herbal remedies so that you'll develop the false belief that it had some curative benefit. The next thing you know, you'll be on a regular herbal program which, in actuality, had no basis whatsoever with the resolution of the viral syndrome. You'll be fine. Again, if the cough is productive and you have a fever, then a plain chest film to rule out a lobar pneumonia would be wise. If no fever is present and the phlegm is from sinus drainage, then no need to have it performed. Antibiotics are not recommended and will have no effect on viral symptoms. It would not be necessary at this point to consider steroids, as bacterial infection related to sinusitis may be present. It's doubtful, but still possible. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies Flag this Response
  • Dr. Cottle:Have you used or heard of Dr. NeilMed's SinusRinse? It costs about $12 at Walgreens, and is fantastic for sinus problems of all kinds, including rhinitis and sinusitis. It was developed by a DOCTOR, so you may be interested in this if you have problems with sinus infections or the like. My patients with chronic sinus problems swear by this product. Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
  • Read up on Monolaurin (lauric acid). It's a "nutritional supplement" that has anti-viral and anti-bacterial properties. It can be found in health food stores or purchased online fairly cheaply.
    misskr 17 Replies Flag this Response
  • A good multiple and Vitamin C will help your body heal too. If you decide to return to the doctor again, make sure you see an ENT.
    halal37 96 Replies Flag this Response
  • I have had almost every symptom youve had for the pass year, I tried a steroid nasal dec. and it made it even worse. :(
    DH1987 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Thankyou all for your help, I think that bronchiolitis is the most likely problem at the moment as my chest seems to be the most problematic right now with all the coughing constantly and phlem.
    mdstone 1 Replies Flag this Response
  • Dr. Cottle:Have you used or heard of Dr. NeilMed's SinusRinse? It costs about $12 at Walgreens, and is fantastic for sinus problems of all kinds, including rhinitis and sinusitis. It was developed by a DOCTOR, so you may be interested in this if you have problems with sinus infections or the like. My patients with chronic sinus problems swear by this product. Best wishesDOM Look, simply because a "doctor" created some type of treatment derivative, does not mean that I'll suddenly align myself with the product. The problem here is not the idea of irrigating the nasal turbines, which is not a revelation, but the notion of a physician commercializing medicine and treatment. For what you'd pay for this product, you can buy an entire jug of normal saline that would last a year or more. I'm about to be 85 years old and way back there somewhere when I took the oath as a physician, we spent actual in-service time with patients making certain to treat their illness based on sound scientific evidence, we never peddled the medicines we prescribed and we took time to educate patients on best practices in staying healthy. The medicine of today is largely being dictated by one's insurance provider, with a profit margin determining what services and treatment a patient can and will receive and in cases of catastrophic disease, whether they will even be permitted coverage at all. Physicians are commercializing medicine to the extent that procedures are being peddled on billboards and the charasmatic regime continually tried to draw people into using concoctions, potions, ointments, herbs, crystals, magnets and any other nonsense for the sole purpose of turning a profit. Simply because allopathic medicine hasn't yet attained the ability to cure all illness or disease, doesn't mean that the answer even remotely lies within the parameters of a lesser and unsophisticated means. Yet, that's precisely what the charasmatic industry attempts to suggest. It's an effort to promote the most simplistic notions of human physiology and human illness such that tending to these issues is as unsophisticated as changing the oil in your automobile. I will also reaffirm my disgust and condemnation of allopathic physicians who focus less on the practice of medicine and more upon commercializing the profession with a large bent toward deception based upon the lack of knowledge by patients in general about human illness and healthcare, merely to turn high profits. regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies Flag this Response
  • Thankyou all for your help, I think that bronchiolitis is the most likely problem at the moment as my chest seems to be the most problematic right now with all the coughing constantly and phlem. Your initial list of symptoms seemed to indicate more of a sinusitis condition, but if you are experiencing chest pain or tightness as well as a bronchial cough then I would agree with Dr. Cottle that a chest xray may be in order. What is the color of the phlegm? Is the phlegm easy or difficult to expectorate? Do you have wheezing or shortness of breath? DOM
    acuann 3080 Replies Flag this Response
  • Are you feeling better yet? I have the same thing! Help!Since late January this year to present (May) i've had what I believe to be a viral infection that I cannot get rid of. Symptoms include:Blockage of the nasil passage (blocked nose & runny nose) - This was a major problem to start with and was the very first symptom. I can put up with a blocked nose for a day or two like when you have a cold or flu but this went on for over 2 weeks. I tried decongestants for this which only seemed to passify the problem. Otrivine nasil spray worked best.Excessive discharge of Mucas - This has been constant since the begining. Through the nose when sneezing and blowing mainly.Constant sneezing (lasts for a few days then goes) - I have days where I cannot stop sneezing and then days when I only sneeze once or twice. I believe this is my body's way of getting rid of the virus.Itchy Ear (slight loss of hearing & ear infection symptoms) - Due to constantly blowing my nose I think the infection passed on to my ears. The inner ear became itchy and they 'popped' regularly.Sore Throat - Lasted for only 1 day recently and went. Possibly this is to do with build of of phlem in my throat.Coughing (tickling & chesty cough) - This was the last symptom I had, although mild to start with it has recently become very irritable. Coughing up phlem is a constant occurance and is now my main problem.Occasional headaches - Doesn't happen a lot but has occured a few times during the past few months.Doctor has not been able to give a proper diagnosis. They have suggested sinusitus/alergies (similar to hay fever) and have pescribed Antibiotics (the doctors answer to everything!), steroid type nasil spray (to help with the nose problems) and tablets to help with the alergy type symptoms.I'm now due to return to the doctors as I have still not managed to shake off my illness.How I caught this I have no idea but it could have originated from december when I played football outside in the cold wheather and took in a lot of cold air into my lungsAny help with this would be much appreciated.
    dianne9lives 1 Replies
    • August 28, 2009
    • 04:16 AM
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  • Look, simply because a "doctor" created some type of treatment derivative, does not mean that I'll suddenly align myself with the product. The problem here is not the idea of irrigating the nasal turbines, which is not a revelation, but the notion of a physician commercializing medicine and treatment. For what you'd pay for this product, you can buy an entire jug of normal saline that would last a year or more. I'm about to be 85 years old and way back there somewhere when I took the oath as a physician, we spent actual in-service time with patients making certain to treat their illness based on sound scientific evidence, we never peddled the medicines we prescribed and we took time to educate patients on best practices in staying healthy. The medicine of today is largely being dictated by one's insurance provider, with a profit margin determining what services and treatment a patient can and will receive and in cases of catastrophic disease, whether they will even be permitted coverage at all. Physicians are commercializing medicine to the extent that procedures are being peddled on billboards and the charasmatic regime continually tried to draw people into using concoctions, potions, ointments, herbs, crystals, magnets and any other nonsense for the sole purpose of turning a profit. Simply because allopathic medicine hasn't yet attained the ability to cure all illness or disease, doesn't mean that the answer even remotely lies within the parameters of a lesser and unsophisticated means. Yet, that's precisely what the charasmatic industry attempts to suggest. It's an effort to promote the most simplistic notions of human physiology and human illness such that tending to these issues is as unsophisticated as changing the oil in your automobile. I will also reaffirm my disgust and condemnation of allopathic physicians who focus less on the practice of medicine and more upon commercializing the profession with a large bent toward deception based upon the lack of knowledge by patients in general about human illness and healthcare, merely to turn high profits. regards, J Cottle, MD The problem presented here by the patient is relatively simple. Late Dr. Robert C. Bright trained me in the "Home Remedy Healing Art of Bioneuroenergenology". I have seen lots of patients with this problem in L&T company employees in Mumbai, India. I do this as a hobby and not for money. Dr. Bright's answer would be "If the central nervous system is in good health it will fight off any bacterial and viral infection". (That is why not all people get sick at the same time). To achieve to this end follow the fundamentals of Andrew Taylor Still, the founder of "Osteopathic". It is important to adjust the skeleto-muscular system of the body so that the energy field from the brain is uniform and the 'Biology' gets restored. i.e., unpinch the peripheral nerves in the cervical area followed by milking the tissues of the faces, following the lymphatic pathways towards the collar bone. Dr. Bright always pointed that if the lymph doesnt drain from the head down properly, it exits out thru eyes, ears, nose, and the throat. Thus all the symptoms are experienced by the patient. All secretion glands act as excretion glands and the toxicity of excretion material makes the patient uncomfortable. I can fix this patient in 15 minutes if he comes and sees me in Phoenix, AZ. Allopathic medicines are very ineffective in this case.With Best Regards,Garla Arjuna.PArjuna85210@yahoo.com
    PArjuna 43 Replies
    • August 28, 2009
    • 06:49 PM
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  • Since late January this year to present (May) i've had what I believe to be a viral infection that I cannot get rid of. Symptoms include:Blockage of the nasil passage (blocked nose & runny nose) - This was a major problem to start with and was the very first symptom. I can put up with a blocked nose for a day or two like when you have a cold or flu but this went on for over 2 weeks. I tried decongestants for this which only seemed to passify the problem. Otrivine nasil spray worked best.Excessive discharge of Mucas - This has been constant since the begining. Through the nose when sneezing and blowing mainly.Constant sneezing (lasts for a few days then goes) - I have days where I cannot stop sneezing and then days when I only sneeze once or twice. I believe this is my body's way of getting rid of the virus.Itchy Ear (slight loss of hearing & ear infection symptoms) - Due to constantly blowing my nose I think the infection passed on to my ears. The inner ear became itchy and they 'popped' regularly.Sore Throat - Lasted for only 1 day recently and went. Possibly this is to do with build of of phlem in my throat.Coughing (tickling & chesty cough) - This was the last symptom I had, although mild to start with it has recently become very irritable. Coughing up phlem is a constant occurance and is now my main problem.Occasional headaches - Doesn't happen a lot but has occured a few times during the past few months. Doctor has not been able to give a proper diagnosis. They have suggested sinusitus/alergies (similar to hay fever) and have pescribed Antibiotics (the doctors answer to everything!), steroid type nasil spray (to help with the nose problems) and tablets to help with the alergy type symptoms.I'm now due to return to the doctors as I have still not managed to shake off my illness.How I caught this I have no idea but it could have originated from december when I played football outside in the cold wheather and took in a lot of cold air into my lungsAny help with this would be much appreciated. Hi There, This particular nasal spray really works well for me. I use it now everyday and it really helps with the drainage in my nasal passages. I was told that I may need sinus surgery but after using this spray I think I can hold off for now. You can go to Google and type in Sinofreshstore and you should be able to find the site and read up. As far as I know there are no harsh chemicals used in the product.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 30, 2009
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