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Unable to get an IV in arms.. Fem Stick required

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  • Posted By: nikilotta7
  • July 4, 2008
  • 04:48 AM

I went to the e.r. for yet another visit this year. I have been having excrutiating pain in my left flank area and frequent urination. I just passed a stone late last year from that kidney as well. I went when it got so bad I was limping. I had just ended antibiotics for a mild sore throat, ear infections, and black hairy tongue. eww. I've been suffering from bronchitis since Jan. Let me just say I'm a 28/F. I'm already minus a colon, appendix, and gallbladder.

All my tests came back in normal range at the e.r. However it took 6 different individuals, each poking me 2 to 3 times to try to draw blood or get an iv line. In the end the doctor came in and gave me a "fem stick" which freaked me out. Basically they drew blood from the femoral artery where my leg meets my groin area. It is as painful as it sounds, and made me get sick.

At the end of this they said I probably had a very wicked flu that was effecting the muscles in my back causing all the pain. No one addressed why they would unable to get a vein or when they did they blew. Any ideas as to why? They said all my blood levels were with normal limits. I have had to have central, main, and pick lines years ago during long hospitalizations. I've been a hard poke but nothing this extreme, even when I was severely dehyrated.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

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  • sorry; I know your pain because I have that problem, too. First, drink lots and lots of water before you go. Second, tell them they have to use a butterfly, the smallest sized, needle...must must....Third, tell them you need their most senior blood taker on site and don't settle for the others. There is always one person who is known to draw the tricky veins. Sometimes there isn't and you are out of luck. I can't go to my local hospital for blood but have to go 40 miles away to the only person who draws it painlessly. Last, ask for a hand/wrist draw and have them run mildly hot water over your hand for about 3-5 minutes. You should not have had to go through that. Doctors don't know how to draw so you're not getting anything special when they pass it to a doctor. The ankle area might work, too...not the groin. That was excessively cruel...or incompetent.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies Flag this Response
  • I felt the same way too about the groin. I've had iv's before in my feet, fingers, arms, neck, etc. I had to have that central stitched in for weeks before. I do drink plenty of water. In fact I average about 10 to 11 bottles of water a day. I don't drink soda or anything else like that. Just an occassional herbal tea. They tried tourniquets, heating pads, blood pressure cuffs, even hanging my arms down of the sides of the bed to try to get blood into veins. It seems everytime they hit the vein it either rolled, moved, didn't produce blood, or my least favorite blew. I started out with the e.r. nurse, then another, and another, an intern, and then the doctor. At one point they had three people standing in the doorway watching, which made me a bit uncomfortable. My fiance tried to get my mind of it and make me laugh :-) He said if they didnt get it, he was going to try next. Of course I didn't find it so amusing at the time.Did any doctors ever give you an idea on why your veins are like that? Years ago after my colectomy I was in the hospital on and off for 6 months with a lot of IV meds. I think that may have contributed to this problem. However I am in the e.r. every 5-6 weeks with some other issue, since my body can't seem to fight things off properly. I haven't had it this bad since 2002. sorry; I know your pain because I have that problem, too. First, drink lots and lots of water before you go. Second, tell them they have to use a butterfly, the smallest sized, needle...must must....Third, tell them you need their most senior blood taker on site and don't settle for the others. There is always one person who is known to draw the tricky veins. Sometimes there isn't and you are out of luck. I can't go to my local hospital for blood but have to go 40 miles away to the only person who draws it painlessly. Last, ask for a hand/wrist draw and have them run mildly hot water over your hand for about 3-5 minutes. You should not have had to go through that. Doctors don't know how to draw so you're not getting anything special when they pass it to a doctor. The ankle area might work, too...not the groin. That was excessively cruel...or incompetent.
    nikilotta7 43 Replies Flag this Response
  • I think I got it from my grandmother; my veins are smaller than a baby's. Sounds like long term meds turn your veins into a mess.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies Flag this Response
  • I went to the e.r. for yet another visit this year. I have been having excrutiating pain in my left flank area and frequent urination. I just passed a stone late last year from that kidney as well. I went when it got so bad I was limping. I had just ended antibiotics for a mild sore throat, ear infections, and black hairy tongue. eww. I've been suffering from bronchitis since Jan. Let me just say I'm a 28/F. I'm already minus a colon, appendix, and gallbladder. All my tests came back in normal range at the e.r. However it took 6 different individuals, each poking me 2 to 3 times to try to draw blood or get an iv line. In the end the doctor came in and gave me a "fem stick" which freaked me out. Basically they drew blood from the femoral artery where my leg meets my groin area. It is as painful as it sounds, and made me get sick. At the end of this they said I probably had a very wicked flu that was effecting the muscles in my back causing all the pain. No one addressed why they would unable to get a vein or when they did they blew. Any ideas as to why? They said all my blood levels were with normal limits. I have had to have central, main, and pick lines years ago during long hospitalizations. I've been a hard poke but nothing this extreme, even when I was severely dehyrated. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!i went through something similar recently. i was in er and after six sticks by three different (pros) they finally just poked a hole in my wrist and let it bleed until they got enough to do their testing! the pain of them sticking me with needles was so intense that i couldn't help kicking the cart and yelling. normally when blood is taken i barely feel one little stick and they take as many vials as they want. they told me i was the first person anyone could remember in the history of their er that no one could get a needle in their vein! and yet when i inquired what could have caused this once in a life time occurrance, i was told it was because i was so stressed out and not relaxed enough. mmmmm stressed out in a er, i wouln't think that would be unusual.anyway i am more inclined to blame it on whatever poison was dumped on the carpet of my car and sent me to the er in the first place!i can't be positive but i think the poison was some kind of pesticide, such as permethrin.i have read that it is colorless and odorless and it seems to most closely match my symptoms. hope this helps someone out there
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