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tired, dont heal well, hard to get fit

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 30, 2010
  • 05:45 PM

im 26 and i've been getting sick regularly since i first got glandular fever when i was 20. the fatigue has never seems to go away. i have problems with depression and anxiety (am on meds for that) and my wounds/cuts take a very long time to heal.
i had my gallbladder removed early december due to infection and gallstones and i noticed just tonight when trying to exercise that it is still painful when flexing my abdominal muscles.
cuts take a very long time to heal, especially below my knees.
despite my efforts to get fit i usually get a virus and my fitness level always go right back down to 0.
i have gained weight consistently since i hit puberty.
i've had blood tests regularly since 20 yrs of age to try to find out what's going on but nothing seems to come up
i dont each much but when i do i try to eat healthy (i sure as ***l eat healthier than my skinny husband)
can my body just not cope or is there something wrong?

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  • intestinal pain (had a colonoscopy done and cleared), mucus in faeces, bad knees/ankles (ligaments) are others that ive had since 20 but seem so random i always forget to mention them.also have a disgustingly horrible memory, type/say words different to what im thinking.. im sure i'll think of more later
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 30, 2010
    • 06:07 PM
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  • Some possible causes for slow wound healing that you could have checked out: diabetes, low zinc, low copper (serum copper does not measure copper status of the body -- your body will scavange copper from other critical areas to put in the serum in all kinds of cases, such as infection, inflammation, use of laxatives, diuretics, maybe even aspirin, etc; get a hair analysis to check this), B12 deficiency). Since all diabetics have low zinc, listing diabetes is kindof redundant. Estrogen helps you absorb copper so if your estrogen levels are not low (should not be at 26), you more likely have enough copper. Have you been checked for anemia? Anemia can be caused by low iron, but also by low copper, low zinc, low B6, maybe other things... People with depression/anxiety should have a homocysteine test to make sure it is not from low intake or absorption of B6, B12, or folate. Your homocysteine should be 6. Every 3 points over means a 35% greater chance of vascular event (heart attack, stroke, etc). Elevated homocysteine means your methyl cycle is not working, and methylation is required to make serotonin. If your homocysteine level is fine, then it could be that you are not ingesting enough tryptophan or maybe you have insufficient insulin to get tryptophan into the brain (diabetes?). You can then try 5-HTP. I would not take anti-depressants w/o determining if there was a homocysteine problem, because you can die from these deficiencies and they should not go undetected. Also make sure your blood sugar is ok. Good luck. I'm not a doctor, these are just som ethings that might help.
    madanthony 1087 Replies
    • January 30, 2010
    • 09:38 PM
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  • thank you for your reply, there are things there that no one has suggested to me yet.i just found out last night also that heavy stretch marks on the stomach can be a symptom, which i have.i have been tested for the most common things like diabetes and iron deficiencies already with common blood tests. my cousin also has hashimotos so i'll have to get my doc to look over my records. i thought once my gallbladder was out i'd feel much better but i dont really
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 31, 2010
    • 01:09 AM
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  • thank you for your reply, there are things there that no one has suggested to me yet.i just found out last night also that heavy stretch marks on the stomach can be a symptom, which i have.i have been tested for the most common things like diabetes and iron deficiencies already with common blood tests. my cousin also has hashimotos so i'll have to get my doc to look over my records. i thought once my gallbladder was out i'd feel much better but i dont really Ok, here is where we get into voodoo because I never read a study on it but the common voodoo of we witch doctor types is that stretch marks are a sign of low zinc. (You can research this yourself, maybe with google scholar). Be careful with zinc as zinc can interfere with copper absorption. It is said (and I do not know how they pick these numbers) that if you supplement with >30mg of zinc, you need to supplement with copper as well.
    madanthony 1087 Replies
    • January 31, 2010
    • 08:32 PM
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  • saw the doc today because over the last week i'd been getting more and more fatigued after trying to eat healthy and get fitas i thought, i had my thyroid, sugar levels, B12 & folate and iron tested beforehavent had vit D tested yet so i had my thyroid & iron re-tested and vit D tested.she does, however, suspect that it's probably a low serotonon (probably makes sense since i've been feeling like crap since my MDMA-taking days 5 years ago) problem and explained that because i was low when i tried to exercise i used up all my reserves and was unable to make more.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 8, 2010
    • 05:01 AM
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  • Hi,I have a rare (less than 6,000 people have it in the US) immune disease called CVID that can cause many of your symptoms. It took me 21 years to get diagnosed because the doctors would do standard immune blood tests (usually testing immunoglobulin levels) and they would come back normal so they would think my immune system was fine. But, there are immune disorders that can be present even when immunoglobulin levels are normal. To diagnose them, you have to get vaccinated with the pneumonia vaccine, wait a week, and then get your blood tested again to see if you made any antibodies. Even if they have 'tested' your immune system before they could very well have missed something.I would suggest going to www.primaryimmune.org, the homepage of the Immune Deficiency Foundation (IDF) and reading about some of the different disorders and their symptoms and see if any of them sound like you. Then you can download a booklet on Clinical Diagnosis for your primary care doctor that describes the types of testing needed, or your doctor call call the IDF and use their FREE physician consultation service where one of their immunologists will consult with your doctor for free.Hope this helps and keep us updated,E
    ErinBBC 17 Replies
    • February 8, 2010
    • 10:53 PM
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  • Hi,I have a rare (less than 6,000 people have it in the US) immune disease called CVID that can cause many of your symptoms. It took me 21 years to get diagnosed because the doctors would do standard immune blood tests (usually testing immunoglobulin levels) and they would come back normal so they would think my immune system was fine. But, there are immune disorders that can be present even when immunoglobulin levels are normal. To diagnose them, you have to get vaccinated with the pneumonia vaccine, wait a week, and then get your blood tested again to see if you made any antibodies. Even if they have 'tested' your immune system before they could very well have missed something.I would suggest going to www.primaryimmune.org, the homepage of the Immune Deficiency Foundation (IDF) and reading about some of the different disorders and their symptoms and see if any of them sound like you. Then you can download a booklet on Clinical Diagnosis for your primary care doctor that describes the types of testing needed, or your doctor call call the IDF and use their FREE physician consultation service where one of their immunologists will consult with your doctor for free.Hope this helps and keep us updated,EHi & thx for your replyTo be honest, I think i have more symptoms of the low serotonin than something like CVID. Although I used to get the flu a lot and still do get it occasionally, I've only ever had an infection such as tonsilitis once. I am also overweight, not underweight and i was pretty ok up until puberty. true, i do seem to have bowel problems but before i had my gallbladder out it was more like chronic constipation than diarrhea.i will however ask my doc about immune deficiencies when i get my blood test results because I DO have this horrible cycle of attempting to get fit then getting sick and my fitness goes back down to zero. this has happened repeatedly since i had mono (us aussies call it glandular fever) when i was 20.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 9, 2010
    • 00:31 AM
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  • Hi & thx for your reply To be honest, I think i have more symptoms of the low serotonin than something like CVID. Although I used to get the flu a lot and still do get it occasionally, I've only ever had an infection such as tonsilitis once. I am also overweight, not underweight and i was pretty ok up until puberty. true, i do seem to have bowel problems but before i had my gallbladder out it was more like chronic constipation than diarrhea. i will however ask my doc about immune deficiencies when i get my blood test results because I DO have this horrible cycle of attempting to get fit then getting sick and my fitness goes back down to zero. this has happened repeatedly since i had mono (us aussies call it glandular fever) when i was 20. ---- But you did not have a homocysteine test nor a urinary MMA test for B12. The serum B12 test is not sensitive enough to detect B12 deficiency. There are neurotransmitter tests which detect low serotonin (you don't have to guess) and you might even be able to get one yourself directly from the lab since it is a urine test. In most cases elevated homocysteine is the cause of low serotonin...in that elevated homocysteine means the methyl biochemical pathway is not working and therefore you have low SAMe. SAMe is produced by the methyl biochemical pathway and is the methyl carrier that brings methyl groups to the chemical reactions that need them in the body, such as methyl is required to make serotonin, and methyl is required to make bone and connective tissue (SAMe has been used effectively to cure osteoarthritis). The solution is NOT to supplement with SAMe, because SAMe when used up becomes homocysteine, a neorotoxin linked also to kidney failure, heart disease, and stroke. Your body needs B6, B12, and folate to turn homocysteine back into SAMe (it's a cycle). You may not be able to metabolize any one or all of these nutrients in which case the pre-digested forms are available. There is a blog at this website about B12...see them for help with homocysteine problems and B12 deficiency. They say do not take cyanocobalamine as it is txic to some people (it's got cyanide in it) and not anywhere near as helpful as other forms of B12 (methylcobalamine, adenosylcobalamine).
    madanthony 1087 Replies
    • February 10, 2010
    • 08:50 PM
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