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the sholder and the arms, Pain and hard to move

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  • Posted By: myBlue Moon
  • June 4, 2007
  • 09:18 AM

:confused: hello, i have this pain in my left shoulder that started about 2 yrs back. i went to the doc and he tried a cortisone shot, that was no help. it's hard to move up and down and to hold something, like a coffee cup is hard. basically I'm losing the use of it. most of the pain is in the shoulder, and the mussels are painful also, all the time. this has moved to my right shoulder as well. I have a hard time reaching the first shelf in the cabinet to get a cup. and to dry off after a shower is painful and i have a hard time getting the towel around my back. I also have a hard time getting my arm on the table when I sit to eat. Now I have had X-rays and a (Gillian )scan and no doc can see any thing wrong:eek: . this also bothers the neck and i have a hard time moving that as well, does any one have any suggestions???

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  • It sounds alot like frozen shoulder Frozen Shoulder Description Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis) is a disorder characterized by pain and loss of motion or stiffness in the shoulder. It affects about two percent of the general population. It is more common in women between the ages of 40 years to 70 years old. The causes of frozen shoulder are not fully understood. The process involves thickening and contracture of the capsule surrounding the shoulder joint. A doctor can diagnose frozen shoulder based on the history of the patient's symptoms and physical examination. X-rays or MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) studies are sometimes used to rule out other causes of shoulder stiffness and pain, such as rotator cuff tear. Risk Factors/Prevention Frozen shoulder occurs much more commonly in individuals with diabetes, affecting 10 percent to 20 percent of these individuals. Other medical problems associated with increased risk of frozen shoulder include: hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, Parkinson's disease, and cardiac disease or surgery. Frozen shoulder can develop after a shoulder is injured or immobilized for a period of time. Attempts to prevent frozen shoulder include early motion of the shoulder after it has been injured. Symptoms Pain due to frozen shoulder is usually dull or aching. It can be worsened with attempted motion. The pain is usually located over the outer shoulder area and sometimes the upper arm. The hallmark of the disorder is restricted motion or stiffness in the shoulder. The affected individual cannot move the shoulder normally. Motion is also limited when someone else attempts to move the shoulder for the patient. Some physicians have described the normal course of a frozen shoulder as having three stages: Stage one: In the "freezing" stage, which may last from six weeks to nine months, the patient develops a slow onset of pain. As the pain worsens, the shoulder loses motion. Stage two: The "frozen" stage is marked by a slow improvement in pain, but the stiffness remains. This stage generally lasts four months to nine months. Stage three: The final stage is the "thawing", during which shoulder motion slowly returns toward normal. This generally lasts five months to 26 months.Best course of treatment is ice/rest & if that fails to give you relief, physiotherapy. I am in stage 3 where sitting with my shoulder not supported causes pain and discomfort. This has been going on for me for over a year now. Good Luck Hon As EvErCat
    kitcat48 80 Replies Flag this Response
  • I thank you for that (kitcat48):) ..so if this is frozen shoulder, than it may get better:D ? I have ankylosinspondilitis, and i was thinking that it was that setting in. I cant do ice, because my mussels really hurt when i shiver, even a bump in the road will make me quiver with pain,:( . not in the arm but the back and such. I did try physical therapy and it made it worse. so the doc had me stop that. I also take a pain reliever and a relaxer (over the counter) and it has no effect on it:confused: .I may be in stage 2 for the pain is not as bad as it was, how ever my arm(s) fall asleep if i rest on them. lots of numbness with it. The next time I see my doc I'll ask her about this. if this is it I guess it a mater of time.
    myBlue Moon 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Try some itty-bitty exercises for "frozen shoulder". Religiously several times a day. (Like maybe when you go to the bathroom). Small subtle movements. Neck exercises might help also.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies Flag this Response
  • Also, if you can't grip anything, tennis elbow (either bursitis or fascia problems) might be something to look into. I couldn't use the salad tongs at a salad bar! Unfortunately it took many exercises, injections and then surgery to cure this elbow thing.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies Flag this Response
  • ankylosinspondilitis...hmmm, shoulder pain could be coming from your neck area also. I know when I was diagnosed with Frozen Shoulder, I couldn't raise my shoulder for quite awhile. The pain also referred down my arm also. I had physiotherapy for it and it eventually straightened itself out but we are talking a long time. For the past year I am having problems with my shoulder again when sitting with it unsupported. I also have a job where I am on the phone all day so this doesn't help. I believe that pain causes the muscles in the surrounding areas to weaken from not using the shoulder cus of pain, puts the muscles in spasm. You might want to talk to your Dr about a prescription muscle relaxant if over the counter doesn't help. I used to take Flexeril but it did nada and finally found one that does work and its mostly used for muscle spasm in MS. Its called Zanaflex and it works wonders!Let us know what your Dr says inregards to the shoulder issue As EvErCat:)
    kitcat48 80 Replies Flag this Response
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