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Sleep disorder? Night terrors? Schizoid?

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  • Posted By: garymac
  • July 27, 2008
  • 04:25 AM

46 year old male, generally good health
undiagnosed, but have had closed head injuries
never had eeg, pet, nor ct scans
taking synthroid .125, omeprozale 20 mg, aspirin 325
chronic alcoholic (please don't jump to a conclusion there, please read the history)
recently stopped taking 1/2 pill generic 'unisom' nightly
no illicit drugs
formerly depression was treated with zoloft, then paxil, then effexor (had terrible cold turkey withdrawal) back on paxil as effexor was unavailable, then effexor daily with trazadone nightly. No depression meds for about two years.
no illicit drugs.
teen thru mid 20's history of mostly marijuana, some hallucinagens, some cocaine.
current daily consumption equivelant to 4-8oz 100% etoh by volume
no recent major variation in daily alcohol consumption
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Last night, three times that I almost dropped off to sleep I actually quit breathing - I woke up bolt upright will a violent gasp of air. It happened a couple of more times where I was awake enough to notice I wasn't breathing and started breathing again.
I have not been sleeping well for a couple of weeks. It's like I'm afraid to sleep. 'Something' happens soon after I fall asleep and I don't know what it is (until last night?) and I wake up verbalizing something like oo ooo ooo oooo oooo in a sort of terror.
At least once, maybe twice in my life I've awakened to not know who I am or where I am if that makes any sense, and then it slowly dawned on me. Maybe five or six times since a child I have awakened disoriented and slowly got my bearings back to compass directions - kind of same feeling.
Over a dozen (?) times I've had like a jolt, or reaction to falling off a cliff just as I've dropped off to sleep.
I have experienced sleep paralysis a few times, but not for several years... maybe 20 (?) Where I was fully awake but could not move my body accompanied by a feeling of terror.
At times, as I'm about to sleep, I have had paranoias like visualising something horrible happening to my loved ones - car crash, etc. and was afraid of sleep.
Three things have helped me deal with it in the past. Leave the television on all night, drink myself to sleep, and most recently otc sleeping pills.
I stopped the sleeping pills a week or so ago thinking they might be causing my problem (not thinking of the history of it all until now) and was 'fine' for about a week until the last two nights. (Fine as in none of the things I've described) but I didn't fall asleep until after daylight most nights and only got a couple of hours of sleep each morning.
I don't recall my stress or anxiety level at the other times in my life that I have had these problems. Now am unemployed, possibly facing eviction with nowhere to go, relationship ended/is ending, and frustrated at my seeming inability to be productive or change my lot - only leaving the house briefly once a day to procure alcohol or food. I mention this only to illustrate my level of stress and anxiety.
Unrelated (?) physical symptoms just in case it matters.
Soon after beginning omeprazle my stools became quite loose and now, for about a year, very loose to diarhea consistency. (I've assumed it is from mixing w/alcohol)
Non ruptured hemmoroid with accompanying itch (occasionally excruciating itch)
chronic jock itch for about a year - clean, dry, apply creme at least 5/7 days of the week.
the last two contribute to not being able to go back to sleep after the 'terror' so I shower again, etc.
Distended abdomen (finger or hand pressure on liver is not tender) I have assumed this to be from the prilosec as well.
One molar with raw nerves (missing filling) all other molars missing.
Teeth clean and present. (I'm trying to think of anything becasue i don't know what to eliminate.
diet very poor in fresh fruits, vegs, whole grains for about three months. Live on country breakfast and meat and potatoes dinner for most part.. probably 1000-1500 calories daily
No weight loss in last year, gain of 30# over about 4 yrs
I can't think of anything else... oh one thing About ten or fifteen years ago I made some pot tea (wasn't tolerating smoking thc so tried one last time) and I mixed valerian root with it in a stainless steel pan. Left it on the counter, and when returned home a couple of days later it was fermented.. but they were very large bubbles.. anyway, I drank it and after it took affect I was delusional about a movie that was on, thinking it was a live program, and I felt like I had to manually breathe each breath and occasionally slam my chest to make my heart beat.. it truly seemed I had no autonomic cardiopulminary function - and I may not have, who knows what that witch's brew turned into.
Any help will be appreciated. It would be 'nice' if I just have epilepsy from the brain injuries, or something else that a medication can treat and leave me functional.

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  • I'm sorry that is so hard to read, I thought I had spacing between the paragraphs. Has anyone heard of this before? It was 9:30 am before I got to slepp after writing that, but at least I got four hours of sleep - far better than two. I reduced my alcohol and took half a unisom about an hour ago... just hope I can sleep tonight without the freaky stuff. It seems like almost nothing to me now, but when it happens I can't stay calm. Of course in my ignorance I've had all kinds of wild thoughts about what it might be... I've read where sleep paralysis accompanies alien abductions - I don't believe it, but when half awake all kinds of superstitious and ignorant thoughts happen as I try to make sense of it. Some idiot people I talked to suggested demonic possession. Again, I don't believe it, but it adds to the terror. It's something organic, something wrong with my brain, not my mind. I have considered schizophrenia too, but I don't have other symptoms - I think the irrational thoughts are a result of the episodes, not part of the symptoms, becasue the symptoms came first. I might seem 'matter of fact' about this, but it really has me near the end of my rope. i would to be able to live free of the night terrors. I just googled night terrors... THAT is a diagnosis! http://www.nightterrors.org/ even has sleep paralysis linked on the front page. maybe my answers are there. Thanks for listening, I'll be back to let you know if i find answers or relief. Regards.
    garymac 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • For the most part it sounds like Night Terrors. I have personally experienced them on and off most of my life. It is the scariest thing I have ever dealt with and when I have episodes I am afraid to go to sleep as well. I can totally understand that.Now do I think that is your total problem...no. I am not be judgemental at all...please know that. I have a past as well ;) BUT I have to say that I think some of the problem probably stem from your past as well as some of the present. The present being all the currect stress, stress can do some crazy things to the body. Also I don't think that any amount of alcohal is helpful. Especially when taking medication. It can cause a number of problems when mixed. I wish you the best of luck.
    myracer3 5 Replies Flag this Response
  • For the most part it sounds like Night Terrors. I have personally experienced them on and off most of my life. It is the scariest thing I have ever dealt with and when I have episodes I am afraid to go to sleep as well. I can totally understand that.Now do I think that is your total problem...no. I am not be judgemental at all...please know that. I have a past as well ;) BUT I have to say that I think some of the problem probably stem from your past as well as some of the present. The present being all the currect stress, stress can do some crazy things to the body. Also I don't think that any amount of alcohal is helpful. Especially when taking medication. It can cause a number of problems when mixed. I wish you the best of luck. Thank you. I know it is more complicated - like choosing to die (stop breathing) rather than deal with the terror. No one can 'grok' or truly empathise with our plight if they haven't experienced it. It is not so simple as a recurring 'nightmare' it is ***l on earth.I had these experiences long before I consumed mind or mood altering substances, and I have used every psyotrpic subsatne and every ethneogenic admixture I could find to tame them. I am not insane because of the hallucinagens, I am SANE because of them. I assure you.I have become a chronic alcoholic in response to this condition, against all of my better judgement, because, sometimes - i can drink myself to sleep! And that is no easy thing to do. Yes, there is much stress right now, but they come when they come - the terrors - and ***l or high water i can't pre empt them. At least I am aware? I am very very drunk right now. I am just so glad that someone responded here. Thank you.
    garymac 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • I'm sorry, myracer3. i actually did read your post. IT IS SO FRUSTRATING to be moderated. But wtheck.
    garymac 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • Your welcome. I am truly sorry you are dealing with this. It is almost impossible to try and explain the terror and fear that you feel when this happens. And with that I can totally relate. I feel very fortunate that I haven't had to deal with it lately. The website that you posted seems to be a great sourse of info and the board wonderful support system. I thank you for posting it as it will be a helpful tool for myself as well. I hope that you will be able to take some measure of comfort from the support there and knowing you are not alone.
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  • It seems very much like sleep apn(o)ea to me. I had this, when I was into heavy alcohol & marijuana consumption (thankfully, years behind me, now!). See section 3, on sleep disorders, at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris including apnea. When your breathing stops, due to tissue becoming relaxed and blocking your airways, your mind may create a terror so great that all you can do to escape is to wake up, and so resume breathing consciously. The lack of oxygen causes cognitive impairment, which, combined with your very poor diet, and the vitamin B depletion caused by alcohol results in your problems recognising identity, and whereabouts on awakening. Your actual state of health is quite poor, and is unlikely to improve until you address your substance abuse problems. Try to get into a treatment program ASAP! View section 52, on drugs & alcohol, at ezy build. A healthy diet consists of: 4 - 5 serves of vegetables, daily, including a leafy green one, such as broccoli, spinach, cabbage, kale, or silverbeet (swiss chard), and a yellow/orange one, like yams, (sweet potato) carrots, or pumpkin/squash. One of the other serves should be legumes, such as beans, peas, or lentils. A serve is 2 heaped tablespoonsful, or half a cup (125 ml). Also, at least 2, to a maximum of 5 serves of fruit: one should be orange, or grapefruit, for the NATURAL vitamin C, and bananas are high in potassium. In addition, your body needs at least 2 teaspoonsful of oil. Olive oil, coconut oil, grapeseed oil, or macadamia oil, are the healthiest, but you can get some in the form of Omega 3 fish oil (certified free of mercury); it is best if consumed with an antioxidant, such as an orange, or grapefruit, or their FRESHLY SQUEEZED juice. If vitamin E is added, it should be certified as being 100% from natural sources, or it may be synthetic: avoid it. Also a serve of protein: meat, fish, poultry, or eggs. For calcium, some yog(h)urt, and/or cheese and/or milk, or tinned sardines, with bones. To the above, add a certain amount of wholegrain products, such as seed and nutloaf, or sourdough rye bread, according to your body's energy needs. Now is the time to take your life in hand: whether you realise it, or not, you are in a very precarious position at present, and the only way out is by immediate, and effective action. Go to a free clinic, and contact the county, or local mental health agency, and a social worker, through the hospital, or a doctor, and address not only the symptoms, but the cause of your problems. I wish you well in this, as someone who has been in a similar position. Email me at shaneris@myway.com anytime.
    shaneris 46 Replies Flag this Response
  • garymac; get tested for sleep apnea, and CHF while your checking into your night terrorsas they maybe related if not adding to your problems.RETRN
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  • Thank you, Shaneris,I haven't been to a sleep clinic (live in a small town). But I went in for a complete physical last week, and will do a follow up this next week to go over the blood work and what not. I also scheduled an appt with a Psychiatrist in about ten days to discuss this issue and possibly get medications - also to get back on antidepressants.The blood work will tell me what I need to know about my liver, and of course drinking would not be a good mix with SSRI's or my nighttime medications, whatever they turn out to be.I've restricted my alcohol intake since my last post to 1/2 gallon of 5% beer each evening, and this may be too much even without considering the medications I'll be on.My diet has improved, but not significantly - I've only eaten a pound of brussel sprouts for greens in the last week, but my calorie count is higher overall, and I have taken vitamin supplements once or twice (I don't tolerate high doses of B vits very well, a dose seems to preceed an episode many times and almost always causes anxiety)I don't have health coverage and am still unemployed, so I really don't anticipate the doctor recommending sleep clinic, but he may.I've had two episodes in the last week, but they were brief and as I understand them to be a potentially treatable condition and seem to be able to rationalize what is happening as it is happening now they weren't as horrific as before.I will follow each doctor's advice, and I truly thank you for your input and your effort. This has gone on as long as I remember and I am so glad I finally asked for help, and I am very grateful the advice I've gotten here.Regards I will check back in a cpl of weeks and report any progress in case that will be helpful to someone else. @Valkyre my last ekg didn't show anything strange. And the doctor didn't notice anything out of whack with pulse or blood pressure the other... but maybe I should have another ekg.. I just see how I can afford to though. I don't experience shortness of breath, I actually stop breathing when that occurs. Thank you for suggesting that though, and somehow you reminded me to mention the restless leg syndrome symptoms that I totally left out of my story here to the psych when I see him. Somehow :) Thank you.
    garymac 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • I had a Sleep Study done yesterday. Very educational, of all things Adult Crib Death, go figure... But I would tell anyone if you have anything but a comfortable, restful, night's sleep, seriously consider a Sleep Study. Everything I read here applies to the need. In fact I now believe a Sleep Studies sound be preformed same as mamograms are prostate screening.
    TxComa 2 Replies
    • August 28, 2008
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  • Hey garymac,It was kind of disturbing for me to read your posts because I totally identified myself in them. I'm seventeen now, and I'm pretty much good on that sleeping matter now. It is now, I think we can say, normal.I don't really know what advices to give you, when I passed through that phase it was horrifying but I thought it was kind of natural to have that nightmare period and I didn't give it that much attention. What I think that might have changed on me to stop having those so-called Night Terrors was to be in peace with myself, more social activity, sports, etc. Try to do things that you like and make you happy, and if you need keep the tv on when you go to bed, I still do cause I like to fall asleep with some little cozy noise and light in the room. I hope I helped you somehow. Good luckAntónio
    swordswallower 1 Replies
    • September 3, 2008
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  • Thank you Antonio, it was encouraging. I'm glad you are more well now! As odd as it may seem my problems have stopped since I started taking trazadone at night. It gives me strange lucid dreams, but no terrors. I'm also on wellbutrin during the day... I tried effexor for a cpl of weeks but had three intense alcohol binges (trying to suppress effexor?)Major stressors are gone, still some financial problems but no fear of eviction, and I am in a new relationship. It seems they often coincided with heavy stress and taking multi-vitamins. I have never had a good tolerance for B vits organic or coal tar, and i honestly believe that was part of my physiology driving me to drink excessively - to strip it from my system. Now I take a small dose every several days, and I take it at night with trazadone to no ill effect. Thx again to everyone who offered support and advice. I'll check back in a month or so or if there are any major changes. Cheers!Hey garymac, It was kind of disturbing for me to read your posts because I totally identified myself in them. I'm seventeen now, and I'm pretty much good on that sleeping matter now. It is now, I think we can say, normal.I don't really know what advices to give you, when I passed through that phase it was horrifying but I thought it was kind of natural to have that nightmare period and I didn't give it that much attention. What I think that might have changed on me to stop having those so-called Night Terrors was to be in peace with myself, more social activity, sports, etc. Try to do things that you like and make you happy, and if you need keep the tv on when you go to bed, I still do cause I like to fall asleep with some little cozy noise and light in the room. I hope I helped you somehow. Good luck António
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  • Iv read all these sleep disorder storys and i will urge you all to please get off all medications and alchol My son had all the same syptons after taking these type medications usually with alchol and or dope and he had extrem nightmares of cutting up his family members , these medications are mind altering they affect the brain especially mixed with dope and alchol i have been several years trying to get my son off it is not easy and cannot be done all at once you must stop slowly over several weeks because the medications are addicitve you will crave them you will fill extremly ill but IT WILL PASS , my son is now happy normal and although he has trouble sleeping most times can see what these medications was doing to him and will never go back to them.My son went from antidepressents to anxity tablets and strong pain killers mixed with dope and alchol a terrable combination but out of all of these i noticed the side affects of the medications was worse than the dope and alchol.i hope i have been of some help and i urge you to GET OFF these terrable mind altering DRUGS.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 8, 2008
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  • Thank you for your concern and sharing your experience. I would agree that maybe 90% of people on psychoactive meds don't need to be. But I also have to say that antidepressants probably saved my life in the past, and for some people they really are needed and welcome. I don't have any problem seperating my lucid dreams from reality because I sleep every night and wake up every day. When I was in jail it was another story... I slept or tried to for several months and really had no idea which world I was in, A regular sleep schedule when I left jail corrected it in a cpl of days. I don't mind the dreams now from trazadone, the drug keeps me from waking up and being terrified. Remember I've had this condition since I was a child, far before I started taking drugs. It comes and goes, I'm only now aware that it is not just me, that it is not demonic possession, nor alien abduction, and that I am not crazy! It may return while I am on pharm drugs, I hope not. I won't stay on this stuff forever.. I figure about 18 months, enough time to get through the post acute withdrawal syndrome from alcohol.. then I'll taper slowly off them for another six months... seems reasonable to me. I'm a rational and cognitive fellow - especially when I don't drink. But YES - do not mix alcohol or other drugs with psychoactive meds, it is potential disaster and I know from recent experience that the 'cure' is far worse than the 'disease' if you do. I hope your love and attentions to your son will help him through the hard times to finally not pollute his life experience and brain with unreal things. And I hope that if he is one who needs these drugs in the long run that he will find the right drugs and never mix with alcohol and illicit drugs. Thank you for responding. Iv read all these sleep disorder storys and i will urge you all to please get off all medications and alchol My son had all the same syptons after taking these type medications usually with alchol and or dope and he had extrem nightmares of cutting up his family members , these medications are mind altering they affect the brain especially mixed with dope and alchol i have been several years trying to get my son off it is not easy and cannot be done all at once you must stop slowly over several weeks because the medications are addicitve you will crave them you will fill extremly ill but IT WILL PASS , my son is now happy normal and although he has trouble sleeping most times can see what these medications was doing to him and will never go back to them.My son went from antidepressents to anxity tablets and strong pain killers mixed with dope and alchol a terrable combination but out of all of these i noticed the side affects of the medications was worse than the dope and alchol.i hope i have been of some help and i urge you to GET OFF these terrable mind altering DRUGS.
    garymac 8 Replies
    • September 10, 2008
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  • I've experienced some of the same problems as you, Gary. This was 4 years ago but the memory is still vivid. At that time I had freshly crashed from a very intense year long religious experience. My past is checkered with some of the same substance abuse as you -marijuana, some hallucinogens- and religion was something that helped to give me my bearings and sort out who I was (this wasn't my first brush with it). I ended up in an asylum for 2 months, locked up, apart from my family (whom I then realized were more important to me than I thought). Finally once they (the psychiatrists) had "broke" me (convinced me I was sick and needed medicating) sent me home. Initially they diagnosed me as schizophrenic (which was fairly accurate for the first night, under the conditions which I was committed), then moved it to bipolar (when I began losing patience at them promising to let me out each week after two or three weeks), and finally changed it to depression (after the two months were almost up and in despair I felt I would never be freed). They observed and noted the changes as they happened, not considering the possibility that my situation held part of the problem. But now I am now home, a productive member of society and a (most of the time!) loving and contributing member of my family. The road after the lockdown was a very difficult one. It was peppered by a wrestling match between well intentioned doctors and pastors each trying to persuade me to accept what they believed *of* me, colored by their training. I ate pills as prescribed to treat my "disorders" (which I never fully bought into) and attended church (to save my soul... but I've later come to the conclusion it may have been more to escape condemnation from one of the greatest men I thought I'd ever known). I eventually had to write off both for my own sanity. It took more than a year. My wife, once staunchly opposed to religion and despising me for it now had no reason to do so any more. For weeks after returning home I would have to sleep with the light on, like a child with a fear of the dark. I would awake disoriented and afraid, but not knowing of what. Many who knew me were concerned and afraid, not knowing how to "fix" me, or even begin to discuss what little they knew of my issues. I was fortunate to get a job again -quite by accident-(I had always been a hard worker before the asylum, but had been trained to be complacent by months in there, and not having one when I came home). I went through ***l at work and home, worrying about hellfire and my own life (I'm sure you're aware of what one's mind can do with time). I worked as a partsman, and as I went through shelves and catalogued parts I would stop and struggle to keep my composure as my mind raced. I had great difficulty concentrating and learning in the position. I later learned that these things were noticed, which didn't help my journey out of the hole. I'd heard tons of sermons about 'god helping you' and what to do when it feels like life's pressures are crushing you but this was the first time I'd really REALLY gone through it. As I read your initial post I could feel the pressure you are most definitely feeling. I connected with the loss of your relationship as I too have felt that, though it was not forever it felt certain to be at the time. I just wanted you to know that there are people out there that have made it through similar situations. As I suffered though my 'dark time' I suspected there were people in like circumstances, but there were none to encourage me near. Luckily, I did not contact any groups (ie. schizophrenic society) that may have steered me on their course. Here's a vote of confidence for you. Hang on. Life can get better. Will it? Get ahold of that rudder again. Get in contact with people you know care for you. Find as many as you can so you don't tire them out (it can be extremely saddening to drain someone that lifts you up). I originally looked on this board to research synovitis. My thumb is swollen and very sore. When I saw your subject line I immediately felt I needed to delve deeper, and having done so I feel I suffer little and should be thankful. Once again here I am, whole and content. Four years ago I never EVER would have believed it to be possible. But it took time. The saying "time heals all wounds" is true. Do you have any interests? This is just a shot in the dark, but I recently took up astronomy and it's amazing what's out there and how much there is to see! I was filled with wonder the first time I looked at a star chart and put binoculars up to the night sky. I do understand though, that if your mind is too busy with worry it can be hard to focus on or enjoy much of anything. DON'T LET IT STOP YOU FROM TRYING, MY FRIEND! I may join this forum, just to keep in touch with you. My normal username is "jamieren", hopefully it is not taken already...My very best wishes,Jamieren
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    • September 11, 2008
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  • Hi Gary. I can identify with your plight. As soon as the moderator approves it, my story should appear here. I foolishly didn't take the time to sign up & typed for an hour without a username.
    jamieren 5 Replies
    • September 11, 2008
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  • Hi Gary. I can identify with your plight. As soon as the moderator approves it, my story should appear here. I foolishly didn't take the time to sign up & typed for an hour without a username. Oops! I did something similar a week or two ago :) I think I had cookies blocked.. frustrating, huh? Looking forward to seeing your post... it's this one showed up first? Regards
    garymac 8 Replies
    • September 11, 2008
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  • Aha! It finally appeared Jamieren. Thanks so much for sharing your story and all of your suggestions and words of encouragement.Yes, I feel I am on the mend, thank you. I don't recall if I shared any details of my last binge a cpl of weeks ago.. not really related to the terrors, but was in a way as that's a major reason I got on medication.Any way, to make a long story short I wasn't tolerating effexor - was doing okay with nighttime trazadone. When I first started taking the fxr I must have tried to 'subdue' it with alcohol... I drank a fifth and a pint of vodka one night...I had met my lover and she tolerated my coming down from that drunk and nursed me to a small state of health over three days in the woods together. We had a lot of sex, but I was anorgasmic the whole time, and that's not okay. So I went back to the psych, explained my problems and he switched me over to wellbutrin from effexor.I had really bad experiences withdrawing from effexor several years ago, so I was afraid to stop cold turkey and just go onto the wb. So I was taking 3 psychoactives.To save money I had made a five gallon batch of applewine, using champaigne yeast i was able to get it over 18% alcohol. I was trying to stop drinking but still had it in the house. First day on the meds I drank nothing and a quart of beer before sleep. A fitful night but tolerable. The next day and night same, but only a pint of beer. The next night I lay down knowing I had to get up early the next day, and I couldn't sleep. So I trebled my dose of trazadone and still couldn't. Oh well, might as well have a glass of 'wine' (it was almost half the strwength of whiskey) that didn't work so I had another. Next thing I know the sun is coming up. I blew off my appt. and continued drinking, a lot. I was awake from monday morning until thursday morning and somewhere in there I had consumed 3x all of my meds each day (I've been out of wb but can refill tomorrow) measured the amount of alcohol I had consumed and the amount of time I drank it in and entered it into a blood alcohol calculator online. .66%!!! at the end of the binge. Impossible, I should have gone comatose at somewhere over 3% and should certainly have died somewhere above 4%. But volumes, specific gravity, and calculators don't lie. I slept about 14 hours and tapered one day then went cold turkey off effexor and alcohol. (did I mention it was more or less a psychotic episode and I lost my new love and scared the ***l out of a lot of people?)I'm not counting, as I practice rational recovery, but I'm pretty sure I've been sober over a week now. A very close call. It wasn't an attempted suicide, it was just a real bad deal and without practicing denial or making excuses, I blame it almost completely on the mix of meds. I'm really only responsible for the first one or two drinks - after that it was a bizzare nightmare on autopilot. The important thing is it totally convinced me that I can never drink again in any quantity or situation and if/when I ever change medications again I'll have a friend or family member monitor me and admisnister my doses. Sorry if that is longwinded and sort of off topic, but I did go to the psych for the purpose of stemming the terrors and through my own stupidity the 'cure' became far worse than the disease, because I was a day terror to everyone I came across. I'm solid now.. it just took getting over that three day physical detox hump. Once I got that far I know I can handle it myself from here. (in case someone wants to doubt that, please know that I do not subscribe to any of the BS of twelve step programs nor the so-called professionals that promote them. I practice Rational Recovery and it works just fine... in fact the 'reason' I relapsed over two years ago is because I was coerced into 12 step meetings by the law and it destroyed my sobriety... but I won't argue in this thread about that stuff) Thanks again to any and all who have cared and/or participated - offering suggestions or simple comfort and encouragements! I'll check back in now and then to let youknow what condition my condition is in :) Regards,Gary
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    • September 11, 2008
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  • Yes, it looks like it showed up before the "warning message". I didn't realize posts all needed to be approved before they were posted.
    jamieren 5 Replies
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  • Hi Again You say you had problems from a child my son also said that, but i explained to him that although he had problems as a child he seemed so much happier than when he was 14 and got on dope then later alcolhol at 18 ,it was when he went to a detox center to get off alcohol and dope when he was 25 that the problems got worse they detox you for two weeks (which is not long enough) and send you out on benzodiazepines (valium ect) these give you anxity attacks so they put you on zanix and withing months your completly addicted, and so depressed your talking suicied , these mind altering drugs are dangerious especially like my son he went back on the dope and alcohol, a lethel comination, He was now suffering depression, anxity attacks ,ashma, extrem anger general feeling unwell everyday and extrem nightmares that depressed him for the whole day, And yes if you are taking several medications and drinking choose one at a time to get off usally alcohol is a good start as i noticed my son didnt care what he took when he was drunk , each medication has to be brought down slowly it is dangerious to just stop,my son was taking aprox 6 medications a day of each medication so to get him down from these i had to take over his medications and cut each one down slowly and one at a time adventully cutting them in half and quaters, if you docter shop like my son did go to the docters and tell them thats what you are doing and that you want to stop but need help to do it , you can get help administring your medications .My son like you lost his jobs his home his girlfriend and nearly his son but he is now a happy father and back on track and although he still takes pain killers usually to help him sleep his so much happier off of these mind altering drugs the docters give out like lollies.Good luck
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    • September 17, 2008
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  • As a child I had night terrors. All my life until the last 5 years I have had sleep disorders and sleep paralysis. It turns out that these have gone away with natural b12s, methylfolate and a lot of basic nutritional supplements. My sleep is normal npow for the first time in my life. Nearly 100 other symptoms also cleared up with the b12 and cofactors.http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=9948&page=115 Come on over and check out the symptoms list.
    Freddd 3576 Replies
    • September 23, 2008
    • 05:52 PM
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