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Pounding water to stay mentally sharp?

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • February 26, 2010
  • 08:23 AM

Hi everyone.

Up to 2-3 years ago I was very healthy, except a few glitch (that I believed were minor) and very athletic and mentally sharp. Then a few things changed in my life pretty much at the same time, and there came a downward spiral. By now I have a lot of symptoms, but right now the one I'd like the most to fix soon is that I need to drink 10-12 liters of water a day, spread every half-hour, to be able to solve (academic) problems. It also keeps my memory fairly good (although not what it once was). If I dont drink for a while I quickly loose my focus/train of thought and remembering things become difficult.

It's the 4th time it happens to me in 13 months; the 3 previous times I drank my 10-12L a day for roughly 3 weeks and started to get somewhat better. But then I would reduce my water consumption and within months I'd be back to my confused state. Like currently I can even feel a bit dizzy, disoriented and the perceptions of things around me seem disturbed. I also consume electrolytes regularly (else at some point I get a bad headache, esp. toward the cerebellum).

I would point out that I pretty much never feel thirsty. In fact I pretty much never felt thirsty throughout my life, even though I remember as a kid I'd urinate very small volumes and quite dark color. However, when this occurs like right now I often feel very tired (even if I'm fully rested) and somehow drinking 1-2L quickly wakes me up.

Thanks in advance

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  • It's me again.Strangely "not having enough blood" is a feeling I have had since quite some time. For many reasons. Like I tend to get a much better ****r after I drink 5-8 beers (before urinating it all..) and at some point I tested with just drinking a lot of water before and it had the same effect. I have many other observation that makes me think I could have a low blood volume. Also, sometimes when I get up fast I feel dizzy (like Orthostatic hypotension).Beside "hypovolemia" one of the only reference I found regarding an explanation of lowered body fluid is "As a result of the above mechanisms, the average adult DKA patient has a total body water shortage of about 6 liters (or 100 ml/kg), in addition to substantial shortages in sodium, potassium, chloride, phosphate, magnesium and calcium." in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis I dont really know what to think of thatAnybody else finds himself on an uphill battle to 'keep his body fluid level high enough'?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 27, 2010
    • 03:23 AM
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  • The VOLUME of water that you are drinking is what immediately catches my attention. Do not get me wrong, water is extremely important and good for you. Water serves its purpose not only to hydrate our tissues and organs (for signal transduction) but also as a necessary means of transport for vital nutrients (constitutes for 50% of the your whole blood). However, it is also the one thing that is not fool proof within the body. When you drink TOO much water, you body adjust accordingly by BP regulation (aldosterone, Angiotensin I & II, BNP, etc) through you endocrine pathway. If you drink more water than the conserved electrolytes and vitamins your body has, you're essentially FLUSHING them all out. Which then causes electrolyte imbalance and could explain your loss of concentration. Since you're body has adjusted itself to the intense volume you've been drinking, it then begins to adjust when you have not taken it in (i.e. homeostasis). Let your body adjust to the minimum required (1.9~2.0 Liters/24hr) while also making certain you're electrolytes and vitamins are in check. Here is a link explaining why : http://healthlinks.washington.edu/nutrition/section3.html
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 27, 2010
    • 08:48 AM
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  • The VOLUME of water that you are drinking is what immediately catches my attention. Do not get me wrong, water is extremely important and good for you. Water serves its purpose not only to hydrate our tissues and organs (for signal transduction) but also as a necessary means of transport for vital nutrients (constitutes for 50% of the your whole blood). However, it is also the one thing that is not fool proof within the body. When you drink TOO much water, you body adjust accordingly by BP regulation (aldosterone, Angiotensin I & II, BNP, etc) through you endocrine pathway. If you drink more water than the conserved electrolytes and vitamins your body has, you're essentially FLUSHING them all out. Which then causes electrolyte imbalance and could explain your loss of concentration. Since you're body has adjusted itself to the intense volume you've been drinking, it then begins to adjust when you have not taken it in (i.e. homeostasis). Let your body adjust to the minimum required (1.9~2.0 Liters/24hr) while also making certain you're electrolytes and vitamins are in check. Here is a link explaining why : http://healthlinks.washington.edu/nutrition/section3.htmlI never said it's healthy to drink that much water, and I know this is why i need to takea lot of electrolytes. It probably flushes out a lot of hydrosoluble vitamins too, as u point out. But I get a brain fog when I dont drink so much water, and it keeps getting worse as time goes on. Last spring I was 5 months with drinking normal amount of water and it was just getting worse. until i pounded 10+L/day for nearly a month to pass an exam. Btw whenever I take milk thistle (Gaia Herbs – liquid phyto caps – milk thistle seed), even in small dose, I finally get thirsty. It actually goes to the other extreme, where drinking 2 gallons in the next few hours can barely keep my mouth wet.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 28, 2010
    • 00:39 AM
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  • Anybody gets extremely thirsty when consuming a normal dosage of milk thistle?
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  • Anybody gets extremely thirsty when consuming a normal dosage of milk thistle?I get quite thirsty when i've taken milk thistle. My thoughts are that to flush the toxins and repair damaged cells, the liver requires a higher amount of fluid to perform the liver cleansing.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 13, 2010
    • 05:42 AM
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  • My thoughts are that to flush the toxins and repair damaged cells, the liver requires a higher amount of fluid to perform the liver cleansing.that's quite possible
    chribowie 1 Replies Flag this Response
  • The original poster I realise will probably not see this having posted while unregistered and it being an old post but his/her thought of it possibly being hypovolemia may be correct. I myself being a POTS patient which is thought to be caused by hypovolemia find when I dont drink enough (sometimes up to 28 cups (7 Litres) in a day I need to drink) if i dont keep my fluids right then I start to get dizzy but I have mind fog and find it hard to concentrate too. The only way to avoid the symptoms from coming in is for me to drink abnormally large amounts. (right now I actually got a headache and are thirsty as Ive only had 12 cups of fluids today .. too lazy right now to get up and get another drink :p ). Sometimes I do get thirst (today Ive had a very thirsty day) due to the low blood volume but sometimes I dont and just have to drink lots anyway as I know from experience that if I dont keep my fluids right up.. my health goes downhill more fast. POTS patients due to hypovolemia are advised to drink electrolite solutions or sports drinks due to the amount they need to drink. I dont know if the poster has POTS or not but as far as hypovolemia goes and what I experience with it.. his post does make sense.
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