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My dad cannot get a diagnosis

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  • Posted By: thedawsonfamily4
  • February 17, 2007
  • 11:32 PM

My dad has benn having problems with his digestive tract since Nov. of 06. The first went in and did a colonoscopy? and found that he had several ulcers. The problems and pain did not go away. Then he started having problems with vomtting and diarhea in Jan. of 07. He had been to the emergency room at least twice for dehydration. Two weeks ago the doctor took out his gallbladder and said that it was falling apart and that he would start feeling better in about two weeks. Three days ago he went back to the hospital with dehydration from vomitting and diarhea and they say that they can find nothing wrong with him. He has been looked at from every angle and all they can say is that he has to go home and learn how to deal with it. He can barely walk and my mom is in no shape to assist him. We are told by everyone that we have the best doctors in Indianapolis Indiana, but they can find nothing wrong. He is in the hospital and is having nausea currently.
He does have controlled diabetes (110 this morning) and they say thst it may be causing his digestive tract to not work properly. He has lost 25 pounds since November.
We are at a complete loss as to what to do next. The doctors are being very rude and have suggested putting him in a nursing home. Alll vital check out. Can anyone suggest a next step? Please help.
Dave Dawson

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  • Hello, my name is Christi. Now I am no expert, but I would suggest finding new doctors. I would be really really angry with them for not doing their job. If he is having problems that means there is something wrong. They shouldn't tell him to just deal with it. If I were a doctor, like I plan to be, I wouldn't let anyone go until I knew what was wrong. No one can have symptoms without having something wrong. It all means something. Therefore, if I were you, I would look at all the possibilities and see about getting another opinion. If one doctor doesn't do anything about it, keep looking til you find one that can help, or is at least willing to try. Just because they can find nothing wrong does NOT mean that there is nothing wrong. My advice is to NOT give up and keep pressing someone til you get an answer. I hope this can be of some help at least. And I wish you and your dad the best of luck.
    wilson_gal22 46 Replies
    • February 17, 2007
    • 11:41 PM
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  • What meds is your dad currently taking? Sometimes they have side effects that are overlooked by docs, and don't show up on tests. I agree with Christi, you need to find another doctor who will listen. I would recommend you try an alternative doc who will listen to his symptoms and perhaps find a different way to treat that will bring relief. I still think he needs to get the testing, but an acupuncturist or chiropractor may help because we treat disease and imbalance in a VERY different way. Please have him drink fresh ginger tea, it is great for nausea and vomiting. Just steep a few slices in hot water for 15-20 minutes and drink small cups throughout the day. How is his diet? Does he have a poor appetite? How old is he? If you could write his meds down, I will look them up, or you can do this at www.drugs.com Best wishes.DOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 02:01 AM
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  • I am with Dom and Christi - ask around for a qualified, sympathetic doctor! I practice complimentary health, and am board certified. My personal approach is to nourish the body with nutrition, which does not interfere with medical treatment. What you may wish to consider is learning more about the digestive tract, and the delicate balance of microflora that is intended to thrive there. Most doctors approve of probiotics, and there are two that I utilize with my clients. I am all about results and education, so please visit my online sources for complimentary health, to see if any of the info. applies to your father. I have a feeling it may. Blessings, Victoria Smith, BS.HTBoard Certified Holistic Professionalwww.SignificantHealing.comwww.SweetLifeInfo.com
    SignificantHealing 3 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 02:48 AM
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  • The diabetes might indeed be causing him problems. It is possible he has gastroparesis which is common in diabetics. It is also possible he could have ketoacidosis and this needs checking as it can be very dangerous. If the best doctors in Indianapolis are telling him to live with it, I would hate to meet the worst ones.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 00:21 PM
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  • Was your dad treated for the ulcers??? They do much damage if not treated properly. Does he have thyroid problems??? Has he been tested for Lyme disease??? Undx'd Lyme can cause diabeties and much more. The tests have to be requested, they are not included in normal blood work. By the sounds of it, dad's docs are problably ones who think Lyme can't be in your state, so they don't test for it or even think of it.. If he is very dehydrated, hes probalby missing many important minerals too. He needs to be drinking more water as dehydration weakens the body too. Check out www.watercure.com to help with the rehydration and get him tested for Lyme and the co infections, babseia,, borriella and more. I agree with all the others, get new docs!! Those sound like a bunch of quacks. Best wishes, hope he feels better soon.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 01:29 PM
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  • He does have controlled diabetes (110 this morning) and they say thst it may be causing his digestive tract to not work properly. He has lost 25 pounds since November. Is it Type-1 (insulin controlled diabetes)? Because of the high cross-over rate, everyone with Type-1 diabetes should be routinely tested for Celiac disease even if they present no other symptoms at all. And he has definite Celiac symptoms.American Academy of Pediatricshttp://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/109/5/833"Conclusions. The prevalence of celiac disease in patients with type 1 diabetes is approximately 20 times higher than in the general population. Sixty percent of cases are already present at diabetes onset, mostly undetected, but an additional 40% of patients develop celiac disease a few years after diabetes onset. Extending screening programs for celiac disease after the onset of type 1 diabetes is recommended, even in the absence of clinical symptoms."
    Azaral 152 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 04:25 PM
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  • If the best doctors in Indianapolis are telling him to live with it, I would hate to meet the worst ones. Yea, I agree with that. I hope they find out what is wrong soon. Best of luck. Christi
    wilson_gal22 46 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 05:10 PM
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  • To the Dawson Family: Make sure they check you dad for vitamin B12 deficiency. It is commonly overlooked and misdiagnosed. B12 deficiency causes weakness, fatigue, balance and gait problems, dizziness, orthostatic hypotension, confusion, dementia, depression, and psychosis. It causes neuro and psychiatric manifestations. People at high risk are: age over 60, on metformin (Glucophage), on proton-pump inhibitors-- for GERD or ulcers, received any nitrous oxide during any recent surgeries (including dental surgery or cleaning). Some people can get severely anemic and some present with diarrhea. I don't know how old your dad is but they need to make sure B12 deficiency isn't the problem. To rule out B12 deficiency they must do a methylmalonic acid (MMA) test. A serum B12 test is not good enough--- the MMA is more sensitive. They should also test his homocysteine.B12 deficiency is commonly misdiagnosed because doctors think people have to be severely anemic and macrocytic--- but 1/3 of patients do not present these signs. The other reason is that if they only check the serum B12 and it falls in the "normal" range--- they rule it out. For instance, serum B12 where I work is 211-911pg/ml--- if a patients B12 comes back 350--- they rule out B12 deficiency--- but this is an error--- and must always be backed up with the MMA.I have been researching B12 deficiency/pernicious anemia for 20 years co-authored the book, "Could It Be B12? An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses," Quill Driver Books, 2005--- with Dr. Jeffrey Stuart. I wrote this book out of frustration witnessing daily patients needing to be tested but weren't. There is a major knowledge deficit in the medical community regarding B12 deficiency. I also just had an article published in the journal "Nursing 2007" that also reviews this. 12 reviews on Amazon.com on the book--- 3 from physicians.Your dad may not have B12 deficiency---- but he needs it ruled out. He could also be suffering from gluten enteropathy or celiac disease which causes diarrhea (in many patients)--- and because of the pathology of the allergy to gluten--- it causes a vitamin B12 deficiency.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 18, 2007
    • 05:28 PM
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