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My 3 year old...help!

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 6, 2009
  • 11:33 PM

I'll keep this short...
My daughter is 3 1/2 and for 2 years, she has had yellow or white stools 9 out of 10 times she has a bowel movement. The 1 time is typical in color. They are not hard or soft and don't seem to cause her any pain. She goes between 1 and 2 times a day, so the frequency isn't unusual.

The dr told me that nothing was wrong and she was fine. I talked to a friend of mine who is a naturopathic doctor and he suggested to take her off of wheat to see if it would make a difference. It didn't. It only aggravated an already picky eater but we continued to do a no wheat and low sugar diet for 2 months. Throughout this time, her doctor continued to say that she was fine and we are doing this unnecessarily.

I'm writing this because we live in a very small town and don't have many doctors to choose from and now my daughter is having a lot of stomach aches. She isn't eating well and her stool currently is yellow. I need some help!

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  • It could be many things, but first of all let me say that if this doctor isn't listening to you, you should find a gastroenterologist in a larger town that will listen to you. I will try to find some info for you, but I have a couple of questions. Did you take your daughter off of just wheat, or did you take her off of gluten? ( gluten is what makes up wheat.. i believe, and is in many things you wouldn't imagine it would be in. Does she run fevers? Does she have a decreased appetite, or does she just not like a lot of foods?
    qwertyuiop123 453 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
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  • There is absolutely nothing among the symptoms described that would suggest any pathology at this point. Changes in the color of stool in toddlers is not uncommon at all and based upon your comments, yellow and white stool variations are entirely normal. Relax. I would also suggest that you trust in your physician. By contrast, naturopathic medicine, along with other charasmatics, will literally empty your wallet with notions that everything under the sun is wrong with your child. Casting aside your pediatrician based upon the comments of non-allopathic medical advice is laden with risk. These people are not medical physicians. Your daughter will be fine. In over 40 years of medical practice in the big city, I've definitely encountered more than my share of pediatric patients with moms that are concerned about the color of their child's stool. In your case, nothing to worry about whatsoever. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 01:29 AM
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  • There goes Blaze,spamming again!
    richard wayne2b 1232 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 00:43 PM
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  • the fact that her stools have almost always been yellow for two years doesn't sound like anything to you JCOTTLEMD? How about the fact that she's now having abdominal pain? You think thats normal?
    qwertyuiop123 453 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 05:24 PM
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  • Thanks for all the replies. We took her off all gluten, soy, eggs, and refined sugars. I have a lot of food intolerances so we started with that. She hasn't been officially tested for ANYTHING! I'm upset only because she is now crying of a stomach ache throughout the day and night. She rarely eats breakfast, usually eats a good lunch of a number of different foods, and dinner is hit and miss. We eat mostly organic food and she likes fruits and veggies. Her favorite food is grilled cheese sandwiches which I lace with ground flax and make a cheese spread that includes a sweet potato puree - she doesn't seem to mind and I know that she is getting good fiber/nutrition in this one meal. As for the spam??? Of course we have a cell phone, cordless phone, and live about 2 miles from a cell phone tower. We moved in March and before that didn't live near a tower. The symptoms have been there through 5 moves, so it doesn't seem to be environmental. I'm worried about her liver and food allergies. My friends all think I should take her to a new doc. Just a side note - she is also not a good sleeper and is chronically tired. Intellectually, she is very bright (reading and doing simple math equations). Socially she has lots of friends and enjoys being around people. Physically she is actively involved in gymnastics and dance classes.Please let me know what you think???
    Mom of 2 daughters 3 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 10:03 PM
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  • I'll keep this short...My daughter is 3 1/2 and for 2 years, she has had yellow or white stools 9 out of 10 times she has a bowel movement. The 1 time is typical in color. They are not hard or soft and don't seem to cause her any pain. She goes between 1 and 2 times a day, so the frequency isn't unusual. The dr told me that nothing was wrong and she was fine. I talked to a friend of mine who is a naturopathic doctor and he suggested to take her off of wheat to see if it would make a difference. It didn't. It only aggravated an already picky eater but we continued to do a no wheat and low sugar diet for 2 months. Throughout this time, her doctor continued to say that she was fine and we are doing this unnecessarily. I'm writing this because we live in a very small town and don't have many doctors to choose from and now my daughter is having a lot of stomach aches. She isn't eating well and her stool currently is yellow. I need some help! She doesn't get fevers unless she's sick. Sorry I forgot that the first time..
    Mom of 2 daughters 3 Replies
    • January 8, 2009
    • 10:09 PM
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  • tummy pain also could be from a parasite of some kind. My sister when i was growing up had years of bad tummy pain and used to cry with it all the time. The doctors keep on telling mum there was nothing wrong with her. They made mum believe that she must of been doing it for attention. So it got to the point where mum couldnt handle her crying and hence used to just lock her in her bedroom all the time. It ended up (years later) being found (only when her growth was stunted and she had a bulging tummy.. looked like an etheopian starving child or something) that my sister had a huge tapeworm!! (well over 1 metre long)
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • January 9, 2009
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  • Here's some information about white stools from Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/white-stool/AN01724 I agree. Find another doctor. A pedi gastroenterologist would be best. Call your local hospital & ask for a referral.
    aquila 1263 Replies
    • January 9, 2009
    • 05:39 PM
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  • Aquila,how is it that you almost always have a website handy to offer?
    richard wayne2b 1232 Replies
    • January 9, 2009
    • 05:49 PM
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  • I will do some research, if she has been off of gluten and is getting worse rather than better I doubt it is celiac. I'm having a hard time finding out much, as the yellow stools are actually a good thing, compared to the white stools, there is more information on serious conditions in which the kids only have white stool. I think bile is what gives poop its brown color, so maybe she isn't producing enough bile... Does she ever have diarrhea or become constipated? Are her stools foul smelling, bulky, greasy etc? Did all this begin when you began feeding her solid foods, or after you had begun feeding her solid foods, or do you remember? I think she should see another doctor, one who will run some tests, as this is not something that has just been going on for a few days.
    qwertyuiop123 453 Replies
    • January 10, 2009
    • 11:20 PM
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  • I would suggest that you examine the diet you're providing for your child. The use of ground wheat flax and all sorts of organic derivatives can produce some unwanted effects in the intestinal tract of children. You have to realize that intestinal flora in toddlers is rather dynamic in nature and they typically don't tolerate all sorts of exotic preparations designed to otherwise be so healthy. While I also object to the fast food assault that most children are exposed to, it doesn't stand to reason that the opposite end of the spectrum represents paradise. Although she may favor certain preparations being put before her, it doesn't mean that she is sophisticated enough to realize that it may be part of the cause for her intestinal distress in the same way an adult would summize. I have no way of presuming what all constitutes the "organic" diet being provided, but I'll readily suggest here that it's very likely the cause for her GI difficulty. Healthy doesn't necessarily equate with digestable in the stomach of a child. Again, there is nothing in her symptomatology that would suggest an underlying disease or disorder at this point. Your concerns regarding her liver would be unfounded at this point because liver dysfunction on the order of 2 years duration would demonstrate quite florid symptoms by this point in time. I've evaluated my fair share of children and I think we're dealing with a diet issue here. Best regards, J Cottle, MD
    JCottleMD 580 Replies
    • January 11, 2009
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  • I will do some research, if she has been off of gluten and is getting worse rather than better I doubt it is celiac. I'm having a hard time finding out much, as the yellow stools are actually a good thing, compared to the white stools, there is more information on serious conditions in which the kids only have white stool. I think bile is what gives poop its brown color, so maybe she isn't producing enough bile... Does she ever have diarrhea or become constipated? She never used to, but has in the last month. This is also the time she started complaining of stomach aches. Are her stools foul smelling, bulky, greasy etc? Not unusually smelly. Not bulky or greasy. Did all this begin when you began feeding her solid foods, or after you had begun feeding her solid foods, or do you remember? Yes. She was switched over to solid foods from breastmilk gradually starting at 6 months old. From 6-9 months, she lost weight and then from 9-12 months the pedi put her into the "failure to thrive" catagory because she continued to lose weight. We were referred to a nutritionist in the hospital who told us to feed her anything that she would eat and to increase my breastfeeding. That diet included fries (both fast food and homemade) and ice cream (we tried soy and dairy). She gradually began eating more foods and gained all the weight back. I completely weaned her of breastmilk at 15 months old and that's when the abnormal stool colors started. I specifically remember asking my doc about it at her 15 month appointment and have it written down in the post-summary notes from that appointment. I think she should see another doctor, one who will run some tests, as this is not something that has just been going on for a few days. I have checked in with the closest hospital for a referral to a pedi gastroentologist but there isn't one within a 2 1/2 hour drive. We see another pedi tomorrow and I'm hoping to take all of this info in to see what we can do. We are a well-rounded family eating in the food pyramid and have made the choice to eat organic veggies/fruit and free-range meats. We also eat at fast food restaurants and sit-down restaurants on occation but frankly, it's cheaper to eat at home. The ground flax helps all of us stay "regular" and gives us a dose of omega-3's. I don't put it in all our food and as a matter of fact, don't even use it everyday. I agree that it's probably her diet, but I'm leaning toward food intolerances and would like to know what they are so we can support her system in the best way we can. I just want her to stop crying of a stomach ache and would prefer to not see another chalky, white stool!
    Mom of 2 daughters 3 Replies
    • January 12, 2009
    • 02:44 AM
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