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My 15 month old son collapsed, turned blue and was unconscious.......

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  • Posted By: nancyclarissa1970
  • December 27, 2007
  • 09:43 PM

Hello...I wanted to share what happened with my 15 month old son on 12/23 to see if it might be something that hasn't been considered.

All of a sudden, my son collapsed onto the floor, face down (head down, not to the side) and his right arm clenched against his chest. On the floor, it looked as if he was trying to get up, shaking a bit, but could not. He was picked up with his arm still against his body, then started to turn blue in the face (he was wearing long sleeves and pants, so I'm not sure where else). He then fell into unconsciousness for about 30 seconds. The blueness went away as he fell unconscious. Upon waking, he was listless and confused and unable to vocalize any crying. He was not able to cry until about 5 minutes later. I was holding him the entire time and he just layed against my chest the whole time. Meanwhile, the paramedics had arrived and we left to go to the hospital with them. In the ER, they did bloodwork, a cat scan, chest xray and EKG. The only problem was that his liver enzymes were off and he had sinusitis. So, we spent the night in pediatrics for observation and to start IV antibiotics for the sinusitis, where he was on monitors just in case he stopped breathing again. He was fine throughout the evening. In the morning, he had an EEG done for about 30 minutes (supposedly only 2/5 phases of the test were done). Later, a neurologist (not a peds. neurologist), read the EEG and did not find any abnormalities. We went home after having been there for more than 24 hours on 12/24. He has been fine ever since then. I called and asked our pediatrician to order one more blood test to rule out any exposure to a pain patch that my Mom had been wearing that day, and was worried that maybe he had touched it and reacted to it? It never came off of her, so we're not sure if it's even possible.

All I know is that before he fell, he was not crying or anything, so I don't think it was a breath holding spell, and he didn't trip on anything, even though he is quite the clumsy little guy. I truly believe that he was already impaired prior to the fall by something that stole his oxygen supply, or perhaps he had a seizure. Does anyone have any suggestions? If there is something that the doctors haven't thought of, I need to know so I can take care of my little guy! He also has an identical twin brother, so I want to make sure he is ok, too. One more thing, is that his older 8 year old brother, is on the autism spectrum, and I've seen several things in common with both babies and my 8 yr old. and many children on the autism spectrum have seizure disorders as well. Help!

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  • Toxic ShockHis liver enzymes were off because there is something triggering a violent response from his immune system.How were his bowel movements before the episode?What did he eat all day before the episode?Any new toys?He is running low in fluids- he is chronically dehydrated. Cut off all the soda, juice, or any other drink that is not pure clean water.He can't eat any refined sugar- at least for the months that he will get used to ingesting a larger amount of water. Do it gradually and together with ingestion of sea salt in the food- and unprocessed food.Read about naet.com this can be very helpful.Best,Mar.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 03:16 AM
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  • Did he recently have any baby shots? Did he choke on something??? No seizures, according to the doctor. Did they suggest a cardiologist?
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 08:27 AM
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  • I agree with monsterlove. Turning blue so rapidly sounds like something in his airway. For the cyanosis to go away when he was relaxed sounds to me like the blockage was opened by the relaxation of the throat muscles. Was he drooling? I think if a child was exposed to a Fentanyl pain patch, he would just sleep, but who knows. They've just changed the label on those patches because there have been so many accidents with used patches. Could he have gotten into a wastebasket?
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 00:27 PM
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  • Thank you everyone for your help.... I will look into the naet website, thank you. His eating and bowel movements weren't any different than any other day. He normally is constipated a lot, which is why he has MiraLAX in his milk every morning. While he had JUST opened a new gift, he hadn't played with it yet. Our parents were actually trying to get it to work when it happened, which is why no one saw what he was doing before collapsing. I only know that he was not crying or having a tantrum which could have cause a breath holding incident. I have always been on the lookout for those since he is prone to that. I don't believe he was dehydrated, as I always supply either milk, 100% juice or water for them. I have older children, so I know how quickly dehydration can occur, as my oldest son has been hospitalized for dehydration (as was I during his pregnancy!). In regards to the Fentanyl patch, according to the peds. nurse, many children receive full doses of fentanyl after surgeries, so any trace amount he could have ingested most likely would not have caused all of this. The pediatrician tried to order a tox screen with the blood they drew when he was in the ER, however, the blood was already mixed with the preservatives from the previous blood work. Also, the following day, the blood drawn to retest the liver function, came back normal. He hadn't had any shots recently either (not since he was 12 mos.), so that is not a worry. That reminds me that I need to make him and his brothers' 15 month check up! Any more thoughts are welcomed! I am off to schedule an appt. with the peds. neurol. Thank you. Nancy
    nancyclarissa1970 2 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 04:11 PM
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  • Milk and juice can't hydrate him.If he is always constipated- well that Septic shock was in the making for sometime.Juice what? refined sugar or corn syrup based? That is straight poison to a person who is constipated.Basically, he needs to detoxify. The amonia and all other toxic by products in his intestines backed up into the blood.He needs anti-oxidants. Cut the milk, juice, and the processed food.Only juice he should drink is hand made from fresh fruits made at home at the moment that he will drink it. But he still needs more and more water and sea salt.It takes a village to raise a child. :) So you just moved into the right one.Best,Mar.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 06:37 PM
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  • I agree with Fruity and only pure spring water is best for all. If he is constipated then he has a food intolerance, most likely milk and dairy products. Get a good childrens chewable PROBIOTIC to help his digestion, and perhaps also a children's digestive enzyme complex. The PROBIOTIC is very important as he took a course of antibiotics, thus stripping away all the good intestinal flora. You can find this at any healthfood store. Cut out all dairy, and sugars. Try rice milk instead, or Goat's milk, which is more easily digested. Getting back to the original problem, is it possible he could have aspirated on part of the packaging materials? Did the docs rule out choking? Have they tested his blood sugar levels thoroughly? Has he had any other occurances like this before? Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 07:04 PM
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  • Acuann :) you read my mind, I forgot to mention Probiotic.Happy New Year!
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 07:16 PM
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  • He could have choked on something and it passed through...could have been a small piece of something from all the new toys...check to make sure the toy is not one of the lead toys from China..
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 09:14 PM
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  • Let me clear up some questions..... First of all.....his liver enzymes were just fine the following morning when he was restested. Second, he and his brother had only received two toys as early gifts because their two older brothers had received an expensive gift that all 4 grandparents went in on buying. So, while the boys were in the other room setting up their new "toy", the babies were in the living room with everyone while their grandparents were getting their toys ready. I was cleaning up all the wrap and packaging so that they wouldn't get a hold of anything. That is why I didn't see what he was doing before he collapsed. I'm not sure what he could have ingested that would not have shown up in a chest xray, or would have already caused an obstruction in the intestines. He is fine, eating normally. Third, in regards to the juice, I don't give my children juice with refined sugars, only Juicy Juice, which is 100% fruit juice that is pasteurized. There is a NAET practitioner who lives on the street behind my inlaws that I have written to so she could give me her opinion. Fourth, do any of you know anything about breath holding in infants and toddlers? The pediatrician says it sounds like breath holding. I'm not so sure about that because I read that the child acts normal as soon as he or she regains consciousness, unlike my little guy, who was completely dazed and confused for awhile afterwards...so out of it that he couldn't cry outloud. OK......appointment with Peds. Neurol. is on Monday.......thanks.
    nancyclarissa1970 2 Replies
    • December 28, 2007
    • 09:31 PM
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  • Hi. Your son may have had a reflex anoxic seizure, something my son suffered from for several years. Please visit www.stars.org.uk for relevant information. It is also known as Vasovagal Syncope. STARS is an excellent charity and I hope you will find the information useful. Good Luck.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 30, 2007
    • 03:09 PM
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  • I Work In Pedi So I Know How Frustrated This Must Have Been For You And Your Family.I Think The Pedi Neurologist Is A Great Idea. A Full Eeg & Extended Eeg Should Be Done If Possible.Another Possibility: Broncospasm. Causes The Airway To Deflate, Constrict, Rigidity Reset In Infants By Passing Out, Releasing Airway. My Son Had This. He Would Arch His Back, Mouth Wide Open, Turn Blue, Pass Out And 1 Minute Later Would Awake And Breath Normally. I Hope You Find Some Answers And Although I Agree With Eating Fruit I Don't Agree That This Was Caused By Dehydration, Septecemia Or Malnutrition.I Believe Your Best Bet Is In Pulmonology Or Neurology.Best Of LuckNurseangel
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 1, 2008
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