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Multiple viruses at once?? Please help! Stumped!

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  • Posted By: Plastikfear
  • November 28, 2008
  • 11:35 PM

A few weeks ago I came down with what I at first thought was the flu. The tell-tale signs of the flu first started with the creepy-crawly, sensitive skin feeling where it bothered me to have clothing on or anything touching the skin mostly on my back and limbs. Then I developed a dull, achy headache, severe myalgia (mostly in my legs and back), and fevers. The fevers would be accompanied by extreme hot sweating, followed by extreme chills. This cycle continued every 10-15 minutes for two days. My left lymph-node was swollen. I felt incredibly terrible. I hadn't felt this sick from flu-symptoms since I was a child.
After 2-3 days I developed swelling and tenderness in my left tonsil. It was red, and the gums in my mouth started to swell. I tested my temperature after another awful fever. Once during the fever, which came up to 104ºF, and another a half an hour later after taking tylenol, which also said 104ºF. A few hours later I was seen by my doctor. I did not have congestion, cough, runny nose, stuffy nose, or anything like that.
She did a swab of my tonsil, which by then had white patches, usually indicative of strep throat. Her tests came postive for strep, and I was given antibiotics and was told the symptoms would start to dissappear after about 48 hours. By then, not only was my left tonsil and gums swollen, there was also mucous or puss coming out of my gums between my teeth, with occasional bleeding, and worst of all: white mouth sores. I counted about 13 of them, on my gums, tongue, and roof of my mouth.
After 5 days the mouth and throat symptoms did not appear to be dissolving so I contacted my doctor. The nurse called me back and explained there had been a mix-up. I did not have strep. She said therefore I should discontinue the antibiotics, and the doctor was calling in a prescription for oral lidocaine for the pain in my mouth and swollen tonsil.
By this time my flu-like symptoms had dissappeared. I still had the mouth sores, but my swollen tonsil was back to normal with no white patches. Along with the white sores and swollen gums, I suddenly had the weirdest symptom of all. the gums behind my wisdom teeth (yes I still have them... my childhood dentist had said I could keep them because I was lucky enough to be one of the rare few with enough room for them, and they were growing in perfectly straight. I'm 29 and have had them fully grown in since I was 23). Anyway behind my wisdom teeth my gums became extremely red and swollen and the gums started *peeling back* from my wisdom teeth, exposing a gap, or hole between the gums and the teeth. The lidocaine that I swished helped with the mouth sores but not the gums or area behind the back of my teeth there.
I should mention I lost 6 lbs in one week because I was barely able to eat anything at all, not even liquids, due to the pain. I became dyhydrated as a result.
After a while the mouth sores kinda healed on their own, and are now gone. The gums are no longer swollen except for right behind my wisdom teeth. They aren't swollen as bad as they had been, and only slightly hurt. I can now eat and drink with minimal pain. The holes behind the teeth, however, are still there. Its the weirdest thing and I wish I could get a good picture of it to post so everyone can see.
The doctor had only given me this as an explanation: "Since it is not strep it appears to be a virus, and due to the symptoms you have, may be more than one thing. You could possibly have two or three different illnesses at once."
I would still really like to know what I had/have, either way.
This may be unrelated, but I thought I would mention it... my girlfriend whom I live with has developed some sort of strange mystery rash on her cheek and forehead that's spread to the corner of her eye and is swollen. This rash appeared approx. 6 days after the majority of my symptoms went away. I don't know if it has anything to do with me or my illness(es) but figured I'd include it anyway just in case.
Any ideas on what I might've had?
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide!!

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  • It sounded like shingles at first and then something else...next, your gums need a periodontist to patch/graft the gum back in place... http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/mouth_sores.htm maybe ear/nose/throat doc, too..
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • November 28, 2008
    • 11:59 PM
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  • i developed pockets like you described behind my wisdome teeth.. due to the fact that food will get caught in those pockets and not come out well and end up leading to decay etc.. the dentist ended up having to take my wisdome teeth.......... im not sure if that several virus's at once sits right with me as as far as i know when one catches a virus ones immune system kicks in and like reeves up to fight it .. in the process this would make it hard to catch a second virus at the same time. (as long as your immune system is functioning properly).
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • November 29, 2008
    • 04:00 AM
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  • It sounded like shingles at first and then something else...next, your gums need a periodontist to patch/graft the gum back in place... http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/mouth_sores.htm maybe ear/nose/throat doc, too..I dont know about Shingles. My grandmother gets that sometimes and based on her symptoms and what it describes in the Wiki.. doesn't sound like anything close to what I experienced. I had no rashes or tingles/numbness/pain on the skin... and my fevers and chills were intense.I've looked over everything on the internet about mouth sores, and it sounds like the basic theory of 'canker sores' but could they be caused by something related to whatever illness I was experiencing? None of the symptoms all matched up together to account for one particular illness..
    Plastikfear 64 Replies
    • November 29, 2008
    • 08:20 AM
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  • i developed pockets like you described behind my wisdome teeth.. due to the fact that food will get caught in those pockets and not come out well and end up leading to decay etc.. the dentist ended up having to take my wisdome teeth.......... im not sure if that several virus's at once sits right with me as as far as i know when one catches a virus ones immune system kicks in and like reeves up to fight it .. in the process this would make it hard to catch a second virus at the same time. (as long as your immune system is functioning properly).Did the dentist ever mention or explain to you what caused it or how it developed? Were you sick when it happened too?
    Plastikfear 64 Replies
    • November 29, 2008
    • 08:21 AM
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  • Did the dentist ever mention or explain to you what caused it or how it developed? Were you sick when it happened too?In my case i developed a case of gum disease.. maybe cause i do have another illness which leaves me vulerable to other things including deficiencies and gum issues. The pockets happened when i had the other gum issues going on too. (you havent got the same illness i have thou so your issues are not being caused throu that so what i had there isnt relevent in your case unless those flu like symptoms start constantly reoccuring).
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • November 29, 2008
    • 10:40 PM
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  • This sounds like a classic case of hand, foot, and mouth disease to me. It is caused by the coxsackievirus... There is no specific treatment, and usually resolves on its own. Are either of you around younger children? Best wishesDOM
    acuann 3080 Replies
    • November 30, 2008
    • 04:47 AM
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  • Nope neither of us are ever around children. My gf says her rash was from a spider bite, but we live in western WA, where the only spider that could usually cause such a reaction would be a brown recluse, but if she was bit by oen of those the rash would've been much much worse and her skin would've started to necrotize. Unless she has a weird allergic reaction to some common spider I guess. Mine, though, not sure about hand, foot, and mouth disease, I read about it and it says it only affects adults with comprimised immune systems, which I am assuming would be something severe like HIV. Though I do seem to get sick a lot lately... but the doctors a few years ago (2007) ran all kinds of tests and said I was healthy. Monday I go back in for them to do another lab on me to re-test, this time including other things. We'll see what she says...
    Plastikfear 64 Replies Flag this Response
  • The doc never found out what it was. She said it was just probably a combo of maybe either different viruses at once, which is rare but happens in people with weak immune systems (which she said I have, due to severe stress which has lowered my immunity), or that an unknown/undetermined virus I had created a secondary infection in the mouth. I researched all I could but am still completely puzzled and stumped. I think about it quite often. It happened more than a year ago but I still wish I knew what had happened to me. I was so sick... I'd never had a fever like that before, accompanied by 10 minute sweats then 10 minute chills continuously. But those mouth sores and swollen tonsils were killin' me.
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