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Lack of euphoria????

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • November 29, 2008
  • 09:04 PM

I'm not sure how to put it other than "lack of euphoria", but I can't find that listed as a possible symptom to research so I figure I may as well try here and see if someone can help me... I'll try and be detailed, so forgive me if I ramble.

First, let me explain what I mean with euphoria:
When completing a hard, long or pleasurable task, most people will experience a sort of "high" feeling, generally called euphoria. Some common examples are the rush after reaching an orgasm or the rewarding feeling after a good physical workout. This is what I am meaning, not the medical definition where one is abnormally cheerfull and giddy.

My problem is: I do not get things like that. At first I thought maybe it was just sexual, some form of frigidity, but none of those symptoms apply.
A couple weeks ago, I was discussing this with my wife (yet again) and she asked me if I get euphoric feelings in general. And I must admit, I don't ever remember getting the little highs you are supposed to get when completing tasks you are proud of or worked really ******n. I don't know if I am explaining it right, it's kind of hard to give examples of something you have never experienced.

More about me:
- 28, female, Caucasian, overweight
- Complete blood work analysis came back "normal" / healthy, including hormone levels.
- Sleeping problems: Laying awake daydreaming for a long time or just plain staying up late while losing track of time.
- Light memory problems: I tend to need reminders to remember earlier conversations.
I'm currently taking melatonin and 5HTP supplements which seem to help both my sleeping problems and memory problems, though I'm not entirely satisfied with the result.
- I tend to be fairly calm, patient and relaxed

Any insight is deeply appreciated, I would love to finally have some possible causes or solutions to bring to my doctor.

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  • Sounds like you are saying you are lacking the happy feel one should get under certain situations. Maybe you have a touch of depression without realising it?? Some people dont realise when they are depressed (as they may be so used to the feeling hence it is like the norm for them). Depression can also cause sleep issues and memory issues. I'd ask your doctor if you can take a depression test to see how you score on it.
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • November 30, 2008
    • 00:33 AM
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  • I never thought of it that way, as I know I have gone through a depression in the past and I always assumed I worked through that. The only thing that I wonder with this is just that I have been lacking this feeling for as long as I can remember, so that would mean I would have been depressed my whole life... I will definitely look into it though, it's a good suggestion and I'll give it a go :)
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 30, 2008
    • 05:30 PM
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  • I got a test done and depression has been ruled out. I guess I'm back to square one... Or is it square zero when you don't even have a clue?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 5, 2008
    • 10:30 PM
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  • I would like to add some things that I forgot to mention in the first post as it was sort of a spur-of-the-moment thing, hoping someone our there may be going through the same thing I am. - The sleeping problem I have is called "Delayed sleep phase syndrome". In short it means my natural sleep rhythm is off in the sense that I tend to get sleepy early in the morning and stay sleep till around 1 or 2 PM. This is why I am taking the melatonin and 5HTP supplements, they are the most common way to correct sleep pattern disorders of this nature (including things like jet lag). These supplements make a HUGE difference, allowing me to have a more normal sleeping pattern. - The memory problem is part that I tend to easily forget short term memory things (though I do easily remember once reminded), part that I tend to have a hard time remembering what day it is (both actual date and which day of the week or even which month it is). This has improved since my sleep has improved, though it has not entirely corrected the problem. Both these problems are likely not related at all to the lack of "good feel" problem, which is the actual problem I am seeking help on. I have felt like this my entire life, I know it is not a depression, what else could it be? The doctors I mentioned this to have all checked my hormone levels and it all came back "normal". Is there something else I should try and have checked? Is it possible to check for endorphin levels?Please, there has to be someone out there who has/had the same thing happening?I really want to figure this out and I need your help, please.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 06:29 PM
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  • I'm not sure how to put it other than "lack of euphoria", but I can't find that listed as a possible symptom to research so I figure I may as well try here and see if someone can help me... I'll try and be detailed, so forgive me if I ramble. First, let me explain what I mean with euphoria: When completing a hard, long or pleasurable task, most people will experience a sort of "high" feeling, generally called euphoria. Some common examples are the rush after reaching an orgasm or the rewarding feeling after a good physical workout. This is what I am meaning, not the medical definition where one is abnormally cheerfull and giddy. My problem is: I do not get things like that. At first I thought maybe it was just sexual, some form of frigidity, but none of those symptoms apply. A couple weeks ago, I was discussing this with my wife (yet again) and she asked me if I get euphoric feelings in general. And I must admit, I don't ever remember getting the little highs you are supposed to get when completing tasks you are proud of or worked really ******n. I don't know if I am explaining it right, it's kind of hard to give examples of something you have never experienced. More about me: - 28, female, Caucasian, overweight- Complete blood work analysis came back "normal" / healthy, including hormone levels. - Sleeping problems: Laying awake daydreaming for a long time or just plain staying up late while losing track of time. - Light memory problems: I tend to need reminders to remember earlier conversations. I'm currently taking melatonin and 5HTP supplements which seem to help both my sleeping problems and memory problems, though I'm not entirely satisfied with the result. - I tend to be fairly calm, patient and relaxed Any insight is deeply appreciated, I would love to finally have some possible causes or solutions to bring to my doctor. No idea if this will help you,but I experienced exactly the same thing and then some,losing all enjoyment,motivation,drive,social life became zero,main interests became too much trouble.Sleeping was a real problem,memory consisted of a pocket full of notes!!!Initially my GP treated it as a mental problem even to the point of my finally being placed in outpatients at NHS nuffield mental hospital.!!!That was the final straw for me...to cut a 5yr long story very short I finally managed to get the correct tests which revealed a non functioning pituitary gland(Hard to diagnose but in fact common in men)My life is now normal and hectic....wouldnt wish my past on anyone!!
    caskin 4 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 07:12 PM
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  • You sound like you have what medical doctors call dysthymia, or a milder form of depression that may not show up on screening tests used in diagnosing full-blown depression. This is a good synopsis-- don't let the word "bipolar" throw you. People can have dysthymia withou being bipolar (commonly known as manic-depression). http://www.bipolarcentral.com/otherillnesses/dysthymic_disorder.asp
    aquila 1263 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 08:55 PM
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  • No idea if this will help you,but I experienced exactly the same thing and then some,losing all enjoyment,motivation,drive,social life became zero,main interests became too much trouble.Sleeping was a real problem,memory consisted of a pocket full of notes!!!Initially my GP treated it as a mental problem even to the point of my finally being placed in outpatients at NHS nuffield mental hospital.!!!That was the final straw for me...to cut a 5yr long story very short I finally managed to get the correct tests which revealed a non functioning pituitary gland(Hard to diagnose but in fact common in men)My life is now normal and hectic....wouldnt wish my past on anyone!!Wow, everything you listed, I seem to have... Not extreme, but enough to disrupt my life. I started posting here mostly because I am tired of wanting to do things and still forgetting about them. Once I get going I can usually keep at it, but getting started is hard, and if I need to put things aside (like letting things simmer while cooking) I HAVE to set a timer or I'll forget to check on it. I write notes for myself to remember certain things but never really clued in that it would be part of this... I have had simple blood work done in the past, which always came up "normal", but never had anything more in-dept done and my old doctor used to brush things off as saying I needed to talk to a shrink about this stuff... I was never happy with that reply. I guess I never even though of asking for more in-dept work on this from my current doctor. I think she will listen to me and at least explore the possibility without shooting me down like my old doctor did. Some people also say it may be a thyroid problem or hypothalamus problem, so I might ask for more in-dept tests on those too as I understand it all works together quite intricately. Thank you, I think this may be a good place to start for me.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 09:09 PM
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  • You sound like you have what medical doctors call dysthymia, or a milder form of depression that may not show up on screening tests used in diagnosing full-blown depression.This is a good synopsis-- don't let the word "bipolar" throw you. People can have dysthymia withou being bipolar (commonly known as manic-depression). I agree it sounds similar, I have come across it while using the Multiple Symptom Checker. However, some of the main symptoms of depressions, no matter how mild, do include things such as low self-esteem, pessimism, indecisiveness, discouraged, etc. I have already looked into this and it doesn't really seem to fit. I am very optimistic, I'm proud of myself and my abilities and I can make up my mind and pull through on hard tasks. I feel like something is wrong with me, but not in the sense that I'm a freak or stupid or anything, just something doesn't click right and I want to finally figure out what. My wife and I usually joke and say I'm "wired wrong". When I eat icecream too fast I don't get headaches, I get back aches! And as far as this lack of good feeling goes, it's not like my body doesn't work right. Even sexually: the whole genital construct works just fine, including the mechanics of orgasms. Just the rewarding bonus "high" doesn't happen, so as soon as the physical workings are done, that's it, show's over, no afterglow to bask in. My body seems to work just fine except for one missing link somewhere in the endocrine system. Thank you for your reply though. I had a look at your link just to make sure and I will mention to my doctor that several suggestions were given towards possible depression. I think I may print this topic and give a copy of it to my doctor when I finally get to see her.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 09:27 PM
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  • The sleeping problem I have is called "Delayed sleep phase syndrome". In short it means my natural sleep rhythm is off in the sense that I tend to get sleepy early in the morning and stay sleep till around 1 or 2 PM. This is why I am taking the melatonin and 5HTP supplements, they are the most common way to correct sleep pattern disorders of this nature (including things like jet lag). These supplements make a HUGE difference, allowing me to have a more normal sleeping pattern. I guess I jumped in too soon with a self-diagnosis... I should have thought about this post before hitting Enter. Last night I didn't take my melatonin supplements to see if there would be a difference. With sleep rhythm disorders such as this one, using melatonin to correct delayed or advanced sleep phase should correct the problem long-term once you get your body on a better pattern. However, after taking melatonin every night for several weeks, I skipped it just once and again had a horrible time falling asleep, then woke up at least once an hour. So yeah, Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome may have been uncalled for...I'm sorry, I seem to be running in several directions at once and forgetting other directions. I'm just so excited to have found this forum and to be getting advice and suggestions to help me out.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 8, 2008
    • 09:41 PM
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