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Infant with diabetes symptoms, no diabetes

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  • Posted By: lyraonyx
  • June 18, 2008
  • 10:13 PM

My nephew is about 1.5 years old. He's currently showing symptoms of diabetes (excessive hunger, thirst, and urination, hypersomnia) however a dipstick test was done and there was no glucose in his urine. are there more tests that need to be done to completely rule out diabetes mellitus or could it possibly be something else. Possibly insipidus? Would that be ruled out on the same test?

Thanks,

Lyra

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  • I forgot to mention that he is also having episodes of shaking and tremors. He will start shaking all over. that's when my sister took him to the er and they tested him for diabetes and sent him home.
    lyraonyx 2 Replies Flag this Response
  • My nephew is about 1.5 years old. He's currently showing symptoms of diabetes (excessive hunger, thirst, and urination, hypersomnia) however a dipstick test was done and there was no glucose in his urine. are there more tests that need to be done to completely rule out diabetes mellitus or could it possibly be something else. Possibly insipidus? Would that be ruled out on the same test? Thanks, Lyra Hello, when my nephew was 2 years old we also had a diabetes scare with him. although his symptoms were decreased hunger, thirst, shakes and urination. because of his age we had to attatch a bag around his willy to get a urine sample because he wouldnt do one. this also showed no glucose, but he did have blood in his urine. he had more tests done and it turned out he was just realy constipated and had a UTI. although i am not saying this is the case with your nephew although i would advise you to keep letting him drink as much as he wants and also try and give him food high in fibre. such as brown bread e.g toast, sandwhich. i hope this helps, i know how scary it can be! my nephew is my world :D hope you find out what the problem is.chelc x
    chelc-jade 2 Replies Flag this Response
  • There are other illnesses which cause excessive thirst and urination so I'll share the ones I know of, just in case but he's far too little right now to know due to not being able to tell you if other things are going on for him eg does he feel dizzy at times or head pressure or a host of other things you wouldnt be able see If he gets more symptoms it could be chronic fatigue syndrome.It could also be dysautonomia (one can have just one of these conditions or both of them). Thou dysautonomia wouldnt be common in children before they are teens. CFS can thou be in any age and can cause excessive urination and thirst and screw with the bodies natural senses eg sense of hunger. Both these illnesses can cause shaking. Dysautonomia causes shaking at times due to low blood flow going to the brain when upright, while CFS often causes neuro symptoms including shaking. Doctors will say that children this young dont get CFS but I know of two adults that have had it their whole lives who believe they were born with it........... I myself constantly are drinking and peeing due to CFS and dysautonomina, this symptom isnt uncommon. Bladder/prostate problems, frequent urination: 20-95% that is the percentage of those with CFS who get that symptom based on various studies http://wwcoco.com/cfids/bernesx.html..................... or for POTS (dysautonomia) Bladder dysfunction 9.2% (Thieben et al., 2007) (this may include Polyuria(Jacob & Biaggioni, 1999) (excessive urination) http://www.dinet.org/symptoms.htm (Im personally surprised by that only 9.2% study figure as I know many with POTS and most of them get excessive urination due to the drinking lots due to thirst. Unfortunately these are illnesses not many good studies have been done on. I guess there is also other illnesses out there which cause increased thirst and present like diabetes and have the other symptoms you mention but I cant think of any more. Watch him closely for more symptoms. I really hope he improves and it isnt one of these illnesses (either one of these can get better in children and dysautomonia is treatable some). best luck.. post again if he gets more symptoms. (If dysautonomia eg POTS.. you will probably find him much worst in hot weather. Ask yourself is he a bit better when the weather is much cooler? Things like keeping cool, increased salt intake (which helps blood volume) and keeping very well hydrated will help some with the other symptoms eg the shaking if its POTS). If something like POTS, he may end up fainting due to othostatic intollerance. If issue is CFS.. the symptoms often are worst after he's been physical.. but this kick back symptom affect, the worsening may not be noticable till the next day. Exercise and excertion make CFS patients ill and make symptoms flare up often worst. With both of these conditions.. one can often feel better when resting and laying down.
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  • chronic fatigue syndrome is also ME/CFS. (M.E. is another term of CFS..chronic fatigue syndrome). I just came across a youtube video of a 6 year old talking about ME and about what it's like to have ME, the tiredness of it etc. (note not all ME patients get exactly the same symptoms with this illness as there are so many different symptoms we get with it). Thought this video would give you an idea of the way this illness may affect a young child. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz1VQcjpg7s&feature=player_embedded......... I hope you get back to this board when you find out what is wrong. It's probably not ME but im interested to hear.
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