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Impact of ovary removal on menapausal women:

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • November 8, 2006
  • 00:57 AM

After many bad pap smears that never amounted to anything, having blocked tubes surgically opened years ago to permit pregnancy ( didn't happen), one tube stayed open and the other is clogged, causing some discharge, and HURTS!
(I even have ultra-sounds observing a growth on one ovary that went away in a period of a few months.)

So, I know I want that hurting tube out. But my wonderful women gyno and surgeon are begging for me to "let them" take out my ovaries too. When I ask why, they say to avoid another surgery: for what surgery are they assuming?

What is going on in the tube? Infection? Growth? What does the discharge indicate?

I'm against "just 'cuz we're there" surgery anyway, but, don't the ovaries function still in a menaupausal woman? How much? Anybody been thru this and can report on such side effects or some more detailed explanations than I'm getting?

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  • my mother had her ovaries and uterus removed at 80 and my father was very upset that they took out her ovaries because he knows that they still produce hormones. I wouldn't have them out unless there is a problem, but then that is me. It reminds me of the thing with tonsils. Doctors were so zealous to take them out back in the 60s and 70s; now they know they are part of our immune system and they don't do it anymore.I'd trust your own instincts.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 9, 2006
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  • You don't really need them, in my opinion, once you're menapausal because you're already on hormone supplements. The growth can be cancer or a cyst which can spread to affect other organs such as your uterus. My mother had her uterus removed in her 30s due to cancer. It was best because they were able to get the cancer out before it spread and seriously jeopardize her health. Please don't think that surgeons do things just while they're there. seriously consider the pros and cons. best of luck.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 11, 2006
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  • Pamrose: I am 46 and last year I read Suzanne Somers' book, The Sexy Years. You HAVE to read this. If you do a google search under "stops producing progesterone after 40" or something similar u will learn that women become pear shaped and a bit heavy etc starting in one's late 30's becos our progesterone is gradually shutting down. Look up "estrogen dominance". Progesterone and estrogen have to be balanced for your skin to look younger etc. It's kind of archaic to worry about having your ovaries removed after 40. You are going to have to supplement the progesterone you are NATURALLY losing without surgery anyway. There are more and more natural practitioners out there, as you will learn in Somers' book...people who, like me, didn't want to go on synthetic HRT at menopause. If you research it you'll find nothing appealing about keeping your ovaries after 40. Why? Because if you want to stay young, have nice skin, maintain a sex drive, you'll be knocking on the door anyway of Dr. Pettle (see his website) or the equivalent kind of natural hormone replacement guy starting in your late 30's early 40's. Arthritis and other aches and crankiness go with the 40's. Find yourself a good natural supplemental hormone person, whether you decide to have your ovaries removed or not. By the time a woman hits menopause, she has been experiencing about 15 years of estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance (relative to the dissipation of progesterone) is responsible for breast cancer, ovarian cancer, obesity, cranky moods, arthritis, etc etc. You don't want estrogen without the balancing effects of progesterone (now made bioidentically using the wild yam, and compounded at compounding pharmacies everywhere). The only reason you don't know about this alternative therapy (if you haven't read Somers) is that Pharmaceutical companies can't copyrite the yam. Hence they have to trash BIOIDENTICAL HORMONES. The average general practitioner only knows about it from his pharmaceutical company....with a sneer and a dismissive attitude.Personally I decided to have my uterus, and ovaries out at 46. I'd had so many painful periods since I was 11 years old....with debilitating pain...and tons of cysts and fibroids....that I said PLEASE take em out! You have to make a convincing case to a surgeon. You gotta research it all or they'll persuade you not to do so. I'd read the research on synthetic hormones (in 2002 they had to abort the longitudinal study since the women on synthetic hormone replacement therapy were dying of breast and uterine and ovarian cancers WAY out of proportion to the control group who used nothing, no HRT, etc) Check out Dr. Pettle's website for more research. I asked my gyno surgeon for a subtotal hysterectomy, got one, went on bioidentical cream hormones (rub a bit on your skin). The testosterone got my sex drive going more than prior to the surgery. The "biest" has been a great balance of estrogens and progersterones and dhea etc has been a way better alternative than my own naturally decreasing hormones. By the way, the reason I asked for a subtotal hysterectomy was that I had learned on the web that the cervix should be left in as it has orgasmic contributions. It is true. Mind you, I would balance the ability to orgasm against cervical cancer .....I sometimes wish I'd had the total hysterectomy in that regard. I have HPV as do 70 percent or more of the female North American and Australian and British population. So I have to have pap smears every 6 months.....having a cervix is a bit of a worry that way. But without a uterus I still have orgasms. they aren't as intense as with a uterus tho, so if you don't mind periods...well you have to balance it all out. good luck. I personally am thrilled I did it. But I do love the bioidentical hormones...which you can use well before either a surgical or a natural menopause.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • December 15, 2006
    • 01:11 PM
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