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If not diabetes, then what?

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  • Posted By: GKMPhoto
  • January 28, 2008
  • 02:17 AM

Hi, I'm new here.

I have been having a string of health problems recently and my doctor was certain that I have diabetes. In the past year I have had various rashes, yeast infections, tingling sensation in the feet, constant hunger, unintentional weight loss, irritability when I'm hungry, and I just noticed that I have "Terry's nails" where the nail bed is light pink and the tip has a band of dark red. I'm only 21 and I shouldn't be having all these problems.

My fasting glucose was negative (84 dl/mg). Various other blood work was performed to rule out autoimmune or thyroid diseases and everything was negative. My doctor said that I'm normal and left me feeling very insecure about what could be causing my problems.

Is there anything else that is related to diabetes or shows diabetes like symptoms?

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  • I'm sorry you are going through this.Have they checked you for celiac disease?I'm not sure what it could be. Anyone else?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 03:33 AM
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  • I haven't looked into celiac disease, although I don't suspect it. It would be so sad. I absolutely love bread and other wheat products.To revise my post:The only abnormal blood result was for the streptococcus anti-body. I've never had a classic case of strep, but my doctor told me that it could be that I had a very mild case recently. Still don't remember a sore throat or anything, though.
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 03:40 AM
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  • Hi, I looked this up on the Mayo Clinic's website. Just thought I would sent it to you. Another site also suggested hyperthyroidism. With weight loss, this might be something to look in to. Good luck. Sorry I couldn't help any further. Terry's nailsWith the condition known as Terry's nails, your nails look opaque, but the tip has a dark band. Sometimes this can be attributed to aging. In other cases, it can be a sign of serious illness, such as: Congestive heart failureDiabetesLiver diseaseMalnutrition
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 04:05 AM
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  • Lupus or Systemic Lupus erthematosus is possibly what you should get checked for. Explains rashes, yeast infections, tingling feet discolored nails and weight loss.
    TerryG 120 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 05:07 AM
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  • I was tested for Lupus in that round of blood tests and it came back negative. :confused:
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 05:17 AM
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  • Describe the rashes and where they were. Nothing like these?http://dermnetnz.org/immune/cutaneous-lupus.htmlLyme? http://www.lyme.org/gallery/rashes.html
    TerryG 120 Replies
    • January 28, 2008
    • 05:31 AM
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  • I had Lyme two years ago, but thankfully caught it early. It cleared up and I haven't had problems with it since.My recent rash history is as follows:June 07-Sept 07: Small, clustered, itchy blisters on the bottom of my feet. I thought it was poison ivy and treated it that way, but it came back every couple weeks throughout the summer. When I went back to school, I saw a doctor because it was so bad I could barely walk. The blisters were actually caused by a serious case of athletes foot. I have no history of athletes foot. Cleared up with anti-fungal. http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/athletes-foot-vesicular-typeOct 07-Nov 07: Rash on the face, small raised red bumps on around the eyes, cheeks, jaw, and around the mouth. It itched like crazy. Started spreading down my neck. Clear up with antibiotics and topical cream.Dec 07: The worst of the worst. I had a red raised bumpy rash break out starting on my legs, then moving up to cover most of my body (except privates, scalp, palms, and soles of my feet). It took about a week to cover my body. It was so itchy that I would tear my skin when I scratched and I could barely concentrate on what I was doing. It cleared up with Prednisone and Zyrtec. looked like this: http://www.dentistry.leeds.ac.uk/oralpath/viruses/viral%20infections/340%20images/other%20viral%20images/measles%20rash%20back.jpgMy doctor thought I had a more serious problem when I told her that I was eating even more than usual after starting the Prednisone (common side effect), but I actually lost weight in the two weeks I was on it. That led to the suspicion of diabetes or thyroid problem.As far as allergies go, I'm allergic to bee stings, nickel (contact) and the newest one (diagnosed in Oct 07 with a RAST test) is a latex allergy (contact. i have a mild case). It seems that every couple of months I get a new rash, so I'm waiting to see what February has to bring.Thank you for you help :)
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 29, 2008
    • 02:48 PM
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  • Thank you for the information Blaze.I had lyme 2+ years ago. A trusted friend, a doctor and notable lyme specialist, cleared it up quickly and thoroughly with antibiotics. The only symptom I had was the bulls-eye rash. I have never had complications from it and I doubt what is going on now is caused by lyme.
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 05:31 AM
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  • Get tested again for diabetes. There is a 16-18% chance that it was false/negative.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 10:58 AM
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  • Try the symptom checker out. http://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/Just start by clicking one main symptom... then add another and another. I am not a dr... just have been reading a lot about PNs as I have some PN problems The tingling sensation in the feet could be PN (peripheral neuropthy) starting up (does it come and go, when the sugar is high it affects the nerves and causes PN damage); which is why the dr was thinking diabetes. Maybe you are pre-diabetic. glucose intolerant. Possibly have problems with hypoglycemia? Are you overweight? I have problems with glucose tolerance and when my BH is too high I get the tingling in my toes and other areas and the tingling goes away . I also get low blood sugar ... Other problems can cause neuropathys to develop besides diabetes. Drugs/some vitamins/supplements (what are you taking) ; and some diseases (some metabolic diseases like Pernacious Anemia) can cause PN.Nutritional deficiencies/excessive intakes of some things, and absorbtion problems and overload problems in the liver and other organs can also cause PNs to happen. Niacin or B6 nailed me like that just the other day. I stopped drinking the powerade i was drinking a lot of because I had gotten dehydrated from illness, and drank a lot of it) --- got the tingling from I think the niacin or B6. Switched to gatorade with same sugar content and that helped after the powerade got flushed out as the tingling stopped *sometimes supplemental vitamins can do more harm then good. I got to watch my blood sugar or I get the tingling symptoms. I would suggest asking to see a endocrinologist and maybe also a GI doctor to be evaluated for metabolic disorders as you are young.... some genetic diseases such as genetic metabolic diseases can do that symptom. Any health problems in the family, folks with other neuropathies themselves? Catching some genetic diseases early can make a difference in the rest of your life. You are 25, so if you have a hereditary condition they could be ruled out. *chances are you have nothing serious... but at 25 yrs olds some genetic diseases start to surface. Like Iron Storage Diseases/ hemochromcytosis (more common then you think) , Wilsons Disease, porphyria, celiac etc etc. your next step might be to see a specialist who can look into metabolic diseases and also look for ulcers, chronic gastrtis, anemia etc etc. Good luck... let us know what the drs find....;) Hi, I'm new here. I have been having a string of health problems recently and my doctor was certain that I have diabetes. In the past year I have had various rashes, yeast infections, tingling sensation in the feet, constant hunger, unintentional weight loss, irritability when I'm hungry, and I just noticed that I have "Terry's nails" where the nail bed is light pink and the tip has a band of dark red. I'm only 21 and I shouldn't be having all these problems. My fasting glucose was negative (84 dl/mg). Various other blood work was performed to rule out autoimmune or thyroid diseases and everything was negative. My doctor said that I'm normal and left me feeling very insecure about what could be causing my problems. Is there anything else that is related to diabetes or shows diabetes like symptoms?
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 07:05 PM
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  • what about getting a stress test and have your heart evaluated???
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 07:21 PM
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  • A metabolic disorder/disease can cause all the below btw. I'd get the liver checked out by a dr that knows liver / metabolic diseases. Could be a genetic disease that affects the liver--- some such diseases can be managed quite well if you dx them when younger. Are you a drinker? Some links to help you on your research... Nail Diseases; Signs For The Internisthttp://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/medicalpubs/diseasemanagement/dermatology/naildisease/naildisease.htm Nail Abnormalities: Clues to Systemic Diseasehttp://www.aafp.org/afp/20040315/1417.html Picture of Terry's Nailshttp://www.accessmedicine.com/search/searchAMResultImg.aspx?rootterm=liver+diseases&rootID=10414&searchType=1 http://goldbamboo.com/topic-t4374-a1-6Liver_Disease.htmlLiver Diseases Liver (Cirrosis)http://www.billdoll.com/ref/ideas/health/dis/az/c/cir/cir.html http://goldbamboo.com/topic-t1190-a1-6Cirrhosis_of_the_Liver.htmlCirrhosis information and Links at Gold Bamboo Hi, I looked this up on the Mayo Clinic's website. Just thought I would sent it to you. Another site also suggested hyperthyroidism. With weight loss, this might be something to look in to. Good luck. Sorry I couldn't help any further. Terry's nails With the condition known as Terry's nails, your nails look opaque, but the tip has a dark band. Sometimes this can be attributed to aging. In other cases, it can be a sign of serious illness, such as: Congestive heart failureDiabetesLiver diseaseMalnutrition
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 08:22 PM
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  • what about getting a stress test and have your heart evaluated???I found out last year that I have a chronic circulatory condition called Vasovagal Syndrome. If I stand for more than 10 minutes (especially in a hot and stuffy place), I pass out. I have to drink lots of water and eat lots of salt to keep my blood pressure regulated.After I fainted last year and was taken to the hospital (HR was 220), I was monitored for 2 months and was hooked up to 2 Holter monitors on two separate occasions, multiple blood tests, stress test, echocardiogram, several EKGs. No fun. I don't know if that condition would cause the things that are going on now, but I'll have to look into that. :)
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 10:49 PM
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  • A metabolic disorder/disease can cause all the below btw. I'd get the liver checked out by a dr that knows liver / metabolic diseases. Could be a genetic disease that affects the liver--- some such diseases can be managed quite well if you dx them when younger. Are you a drinker? Taylor,I hope its not my liver! :eek: Thank you for the links! I'll start reading up on liver/metabolic diseases. I don't drink much, unlike my college peers. 1-2 drinks usually.
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • January 30, 2008
    • 10:55 PM
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  • Your whole life is literally connected to the liver.... all you ingest and that gets into your system from the digestive tract gets processed through your liver. The liver is a resilient orgen, but you need to take care of it. Alcohol can be very ******n the liver as can many drugs. Thus it behooves everybody to give it TLC and not abuse their livers. Diabetes does effect the liver btw... as does many metabolic diseases.Proper diabetic control can help protect the liver. High tri-glycerides are bad for the liver. But not all liver diseases are dire.... some can be managed and reversed by proper treatment. Some unfortunately cannot. But don't borrow trouble and diagnose yourself.... get it checked out and meanwhile don't fret too much. BTW a guy I worked with had those nails, they were worse than that picture on the link I gave. Fatty liver for instance I have read can be improved in many cases, depends on its cause. But you want to take care of a fatty liver before it progresses to cirrhosis. Only his drs didn't know what they were or why they were like that. I believe he was a heavy drinker and maybe did drugs at some point. He had the potbelly on him; so maybe his liver was at fault. But he could have had hep c also, he had tons of tattoos. Taylor, I hope its not my liver! :eek: Thank you for the links! I'll start reading up on liver/metabolic diseases. I don't drink much, unlike my college peers. 1-2 drinks usually.
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • January 31, 2008
    • 00:53 AM
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  • CHF is congestive heart failure.... this is one of the links I sent you http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040315/1417.html Color change Terry's (white) nailsHepatic failure, cirrhosis, diabetes mellitus, CHF, hyperthyroidism, malnutrition Taylor, I hope its not my liver! :eek: Thank you for the links! I'll start reading up on liver/metabolic diseases. I don't drink much, unlike my college peers. 1-2 drinks usually.
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • January 31, 2008
    • 01:24 AM
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  • Systemic Candidiasis.First though it could be a mycosis, like coccidioidomycosis,cryptococcus, mycosis fungoides etc. It still might be. But after you mentioned vasovagal syndrome I'm leaning towards Candidiasis because of the yeast infections, athletes foot plus other rashes, discoloration of nails, constant hunger or is cravings for breads and sugars? and irritability. http://www.thinforlife.info/sugar_cravings.html"At its most distructive, candida can exhuast the adrenals glands leading to Addisons disease" The addrenal glands produce cortisol and androstenone. Androstenone regulates the salt in your body, through your liver. Did they put you on any meds for the vaqsovagal- fluronef, amitine paxil, or beta blockers? You say you eat lots of salt or do you have a salt craving? People with Addisons, when they stand their blood pressure drops causing dizzieness and some to faint. Have you been feeling the cold laterly?Finally candidiasis also brings on allergies.I really hate that I'm starting too sound like Blaze, by repeating myself.But you need to do a course of probiotics, one with acidiphulis and bifidobacteria in it, and try some of the diet suggestions I the web site.I hope this is your answer or that it has helped in anyway. Regards.
    TerryG 120 Replies
    • February 1, 2008
    • 06:10 AM
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  • TerryG is right. Probiotics are probably good for just about everybody; they likely won't hurt and for most people they can help depending on how good the supplement is. Probiotics probably won't cure you... but they can help perhaps imo. Pick a good one. Any infection can affect someone with metabolic diseases of the liver, stomach. Probiotics help for infections, help you digest things better and if working help to keep the good bugs around to keep the bad bigs in check. BTW repeating yourself TG about how good probiotics are really isn't on the same level as Blaze and the cell phone/lime disease or mamcat and her evergrowing list of stuff.... I usually ignore them, unless they give bad or worse dangerous advice to someone. I consider you far more knowlegeable then Blaze and Mamcat here... Addisons is an interesting theory... its a metabolic disease ... hmmm... and also affects the heart... another thing to look into amongst many. Any problems with hypoglycemia (low blood sugar?) Addisons has that listed as a symptom. Systemic Candidiasis.First though it could be a mycosis, like coccidioidomycosis,cryptococcus, mycosis fungoides etc. It still might be. But after you mentioned vasovagal syndrome I'm leaning towards Candidiasis because of the yeast infections, athletes foot plus other rashes, discoloration of nails, constant hunger or is cravings for breads and sugars? and irritability. http://www.thinforlife.info/sugar_cravings.html"At its most distructive, candida can exhuast the adrenals glands leading to Addisons disease" The addrenal glands produce cortisol and androstenone. Androstenone regulates the salt in your body, through your liver. Did they put you on any meds for the vaqsovagal- fluronef, amitine paxil, or beta blockers? You say you eat lots of salt or do you have a salt craving? People with Addisons, when they stand their blood pressure drops causing dizzieness and some to faint. Have you been feeling the cold laterly?Finally candidiasis also brings on allergies.I really hate that I'm starting too sound like Blaze, by repeating myself.But you need to do a course of probiotics, one with acidiphulis and bifidobacteria in it, and try some of the diet suggestions I the web site.I hope this is your answer or that it has helped in anyway. Regards.
    TaylorDeelwithit 382 Replies
    • February 1, 2008
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  • Thank you, both of you.Looked up Candidiasis and Addison's on webmd for more information. I was going through the pictures on Candidiasis and found one that looks to be an abdomen and belly button, and was what I looked like when I had my all over rash. Look at "media file 6" on http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/candidiasis-yeast-infection?page=5 . My belly button was the last to clear up from that episode.I don't crave sugar but I crave any other kind of food, especially salt (Addison's?). I'm not on meds for the vasovagal because my case isn't severe enough, just water and salt to regulate BP. I can't skip meals because my blood sugar will drop too low causing irritability, trebling, and fainting. (Maybe I'm not diabetic but actually hypoglycemic?)Example: Fasting glucose is 84. Went in to the health center around 12:30 to get my BP checked (Dr. was monitoring it because of Prednisone). All of a sudden my hands were shaking, cold sweat, flustered, and my random glucose was 81. The last time I ate was 10 am.I will try probiotics, my gyno also suggested I try them. Can't hurt! I am also going to try to find a reputable doctor back home who will give me a second opinion. As well as a better lab. I'm sure my school's health center isn't top notch. Again, thank you Terry and Taylor!
    GKMPhoto 10 Replies
    • February 3, 2008
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  • i hav bean itching ma fanny 4 a long time whats happend i dont know if its crabs or a rash i havent has sex. Its my birthday today and i'v bean itching all day HOW DO I GET RID O'V IT HELP i'v only turnd 12 luv from itchy bodyis there a creem to get rid o'v it i have to go on a trip with my school and it swimming in 2 weeks plz helpsend me a msn messige at stephaniechatburn@hotmail.com
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