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  • Posted By: gabereiser
  • January 21, 2008
  • 06:15 PM

I've been having problems for the last month now and NO ONE can figure it out. I have posted a blog about it and will copy the post here hoping that someone can help.

5/14/07:
I've had a problem with a tooth, a molar, that had such a bad cavity that it became a crater. I've lived with it for a few years but started getting pain about once or twice a week so I had it extracted. It's my upper-right molar second to the last molar. The extraction went well although the gums didn't heal to the point that they grew over, they merely touched together and healed that way (I now have a straight scar-like line where the tooth used to be). Dentist said that it was because I had mild gum disease and that it should be fine.
12/6/07:
After watching TV with my girl-friend, I was pressing on my tooth extraction site which was completely healed when I heard a *CRUNCH* followed by intense pain and rapidly increased heart-rate. I got up immediately and went to the bathroom mirror where I started feeling light-headed, dizzy, and finally fainted (almost, I was conscious but "out-of-it"). My heart was thumping so fast that I couldn't feel a pulse. My chest felt like fire. I thought I was having a heart-attack. My girl-friend decided to take me to the hospital where on the way I started to feel better. I didn't have insurance at the time so once I started feeling better I told her to turn around and take me home. I brushed it off as a panic attack induced by intense pain.
12/17/07:
I noticed intense "thumping" in my abdominal region. My belly would pulsate with my pulse and I had minor muscle spasms (could be something else) in my arms and legs. Like a twitch that immediately went away, only to resurface a few hours later at a different location in my body. I decided it was time for that hospital visit. After talking with the ER doctor, a CT scan of my chest and abdomen was performed. Nothing showed up. I was sent home with a diagnosis that it's probably Gastritis and was prescribed Nexium. I got Prilosec OTC instead because of Nexium's high price tag. They did blood work and said that my white blood cell count was a little high, but nothing "Out of the Ordinary"
12/24/07:
Been feeling weak, tired, and the muscle spasms (if that's what they are) continue. Exercise causes my heart to thump rapidly (of course) but also gives chest pain. It's not unbearable chest pain, just pressure-like pain. My belly ached and was suffering from "Bowel Inconsistence", or the lack-of-bowel-movement (constipation). The burning sensation in my chest would come and go along with the spasms. I can now check my pulse without holding a vein, just holding my breath. This leads me to believe my heart is working "overtime".
1/1/07:
My birthday, turned 25, but made another trip to the hospital. I was so backed up digestively that I couldn't go to the bathroom. When I tried, I strained, and it hurt in my abdominal muscles. After taking another round of CT scans, nothing showed up. I was convinced that it was NOT gastritis and STOPPED taking Prilosec OTC and any other PPI medications. My bowels returned to normal. I'm convinced that the Winter Park Hospital is chalked full of inept doctors that only know how to treat common illnesses. Apparently my symptoms stumped them because they couldn't determine any cause. I was sent home again with a clean bill of health. Clean bill of health my **s because I was still suffering.
1/15/07:
I had intense pressure in my neck, on the right side (which is the same side that the tooth was extracted, see above). I was sitting down in my "Rocker Chair", a low sitting chair that has audio hookups for a sub woofer and speakers. I placed my hand on the back of my neck on the right side and felt fluid (either blood, or other fluid) shift or burst and I had another near fainting spell. My heart rate started racing again and I could feel thumping in my head and neck. I could visibly see my pulse in my neck on the right side, pulsating with my heart beat, but couldn't see it on my left side of my neck. I'm now convinced that it's serious but I don't trust the Winter Park Hospital so I went to an Urgent Care place the next morning. After discussing it with a doctor, he referred me to Florida Cardiology to get checked out. The Cardiologist diagnosed the fainting spells as "Neurocardiogenic Syncope". He told me to return to get a holter top that has an EKG in it so they can monitor my heart-rate and nerve action for 24-hours. He also said he wants me to do an echo cardiogram and a "stress test" on a treadmill. At this point i'm almost certain that there is something definitely wrong with my vascular system or something that ties to it. I'm fearful of what might happen should this "condition" continue without treatment. I haven't even been diagnosed with a root cause of my symptoms.
So, that's what I have so far. I will blog with more when I get more but I'm really stumped as to what this is. I believed it to be either a foreign body in my blood from the extraction site or something related (well, I know it's related to the *CRUNCH* because I was totally healthy before that).
I'm asking anyone with any information to please contact me! If this has happened to you I would love to hear from you or if you have heard of this happening to someone else!

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  • http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/articles/557.html Maybe bacterial endocarditis?
    aquila 1263 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 06:47 PM
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  • http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/articles/557.html Maybe bacterial endocarditis?Wouldn't this be detected in blood tests? I've had 3 already.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 06:50 PM
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  • Isn't that detected with Bloodtests? I've had 3 already over the course.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 07:03 PM
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  • you say that the tooth rotted out and then you got it pulled.was the tooth black or discoloured? was the tooth tested for any infections?cause it sounds like when your tooth got pulled an infection went into the site where the tooth was. did you have any swabs of your mouth to check for any infections, bacteria, or parisites that could be hidding out in your mouth? have you been to any overseas countries?
    rachel125 112 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 07:13 PM
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  • The tooth was a cavity that, after prolonged neglect (due to no dental insurance) started to chip away into a crater. I took antibiotics before the procedure just to be sure, then the tooth was extracted. I didn't get dry socket or anything like that, had pain for about a day or so as it dulled down to nothing. I was able to eat on that side again after a week.At the hospital, I underwent several CT scans of the chest area so if it indeed is Bacterial Endocarditis, wouldn't that show up on a CT scan? Definately blood tests?I haven't been out of the country at all, ever. The tooth wasn't rotten (wasn't grey or brown or anything) and bled like ***l when it was removed.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 07:18 PM
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  • Did they possibly miss a portion of tooth when extracted? Is a small piece is still in there---maybe moving around or causing the CRUNCH--and got infected? Maybe this why the site never healed properly. Maybe the fainting/lightheaded/pulse racing feeling is your bodys response to the pain caused & continues because of infection & anxiety of the unknown.I have had a tooth as you describe extracted only to come home later & feel & remove another small piece that was left behind.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 21, 2008
    • 08:06 PM
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  • it's not electrosensitivity. I've been using electronics daily since I was 3. I've never had a problem. The chair is NOT the cause. It just so happens I was sitting in it when my problems first occurred. I was also tested for Lyme and came back negative.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 22, 2008
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  • Were you exposed to 200 billion cell phones since the age of 3? The chair may have been fine when you were 3, before there were cell phone towers emitting radiation 24/7 365 days a year. Were you tested for Lyme AND coinfections by an LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor)? Even an ID doc missed mine. Were you tested by a decent lab? Quest missed mine countless times. I'm not here to argue with you. I'm here to help people, if they want my help. No argument taken. I was tested by Quest Diagnostics at the request of my cardiologist the last time blood was drawn (about a week ago). I'm meeting with him on Wednesday for a holter and results. I'll bring it up then. However, I thought you could only get Lyme Disease from a tick bite or something of that nature. I've never been bitten.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 22, 2008
    • 03:43 AM
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  • UPDATE*After wearing a holter ekg and doing a stress test and echocardiogram, my cardiologist says "I'm fine". Yet over the course of the last few weeks I have noticed a few Varicose veins in my wrist, penis, scrotum, feet, and hands.I'm afraid my condition is getting worse and no doctor can tell me what's wrong. It's as if I have contracted some unknown disease that no doctor has seen before.I still feel spasms in my left leg and occasionally in my left arm yet echo's of those areas show no signs of blood clots or anything "abnormal". To make matters worse, there is no cure for Varicose veins which means I'm going to have to live with it for the rest of my life.I'm still no closer to finding out what's wrong with me than I was when this all started.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • January 31, 2008
    • 02:42 PM
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  • Friend, I really think you should see a periodontist ASAP. If you only extracted the tooth but didn't deal with the periodintal disease, you still have infection going on. I understand about the insurance, but you have to take care of yourself.
    aquila 1263 Replies
    • January 31, 2008
    • 04:33 PM
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  • I am having a lot of the same symptoms currently. The weakness, lightheadedness. I have a wisdom too that broke about 6 months ago right before all my symptoms have started. Not thinking about it, I have been to a Nuerologist, and of course my own PCP, as well as the hospital 3 times. They always send me home saying its nothing. I am on medicine for anxiety, and it is not helping. I know that when they do a blood test, they dont check for bacteria. You have to request a bacterial culture, as I will be doing next time I go in, as well as scheduling an appointment with my Dentist. Hopefully one of us can figure it out so we can help the other.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 6, 2008
    • 02:32 AM
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  • Have you ever had rhematic fever when you were young?such cases can affect the heart,& create what we call a 'septic focus', and any dental intervention(or any surgical one)must not be done to such patients before they take a strong course of antibiotic before the surgery...supposidely rhematic fever patients live on long acting penicillins for years,are you one of them?
    omomar 9 Replies
    • February 11, 2008
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  • Definately a case for root canals...please see an oral surgeon. I believe the root cause for everyone of your troubles is a bad extraction. I was reading on one site, too, that there should be a flap that overlaps and it doesn't sound like you got a flap, but rather they grew together. Try to get in to see the oral surgeon asap. http://health.yahoo.com/oralcare-overview/tooth-extraction-for-gum-disease/healthwise--hw146302.html Risks:Tooth extraction can introduce harmful bacteria into the bloodstream. Gum tissue is also at risk of infection. You may need to take antibiotics before and after surgery if you have a condition that puts you at high risk for developing a severe infection, such as: Damaged or man-made heart valves.A congenital heart defect.An impaired immune system.Liver disease (cirrhosis).An artificial joint, such as a hip replacement.A history of bacterial endocarditis.After an extraction, a blood clot forms in the tooth socket. The clot protects the bone while the healing process takes place. If that blood clot is dislodged, you may have a dry socket, in which the bone is exposed. Dry sockets may last for several days and may cause severe pain that sometimes includes ear pain. http://www.simplestepsdental.com/SS/ihtSS/r.WHIH000/st.32226/t.32769/pr.3.htmlRiskshttp://www.simplestepsdental.com/i/b/blue_bar.gifInfection can set in after an extraction, although you probably won't get an infection if you have a healthy immune system. A common complication called a dry socket occurs when a blood clot doesn’t form in the hole or the blood clot prematurely breaks off or breaks down. In a dry socket, the underlying bone is exposed to air and food. This can be very painful and can cause a bad odor or taste. A dry socket needs to be treated with a medicated dressing to stop the pain and encourage the area to heal.Other potential complications include:Accidental damage to adjacent teeth, such as fracture An incomplete extraction, in which a tooth root remains in the jaw — Your dentist usually removes the root to prevent infection, but occasionally it is less risky to leave a small root tip in place. A fractured jaw (a risk most often encountered in older people with osteoporosis of the jaw) caused by the pressure put on the jaw during extraction A hole in the sinus during removal of an upper molar. A small hole will usually close up by itself in a few weeks but may require additional surgery if it doesn’t heal spontaneously.Sustained numbness in the lower lip and chin, caused by trauma to the inferior alveolar nerve (during removal of the lower wisdom teeth). Complete healing of the nerve may take three to six months. In rare cases, the numbness, although not disfiguring, may be permanent.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • February 12, 2008
    • 02:55 AM
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  • Ok, quick update on this.I had a blood culture done, came back negative. They tested my left arm, waited 15 minutes, then tested the right arm. Negative.What I believe is happening here is there was a small (I mean SMALL) bone fragment that was left. Top that off with the periodontal disease (the crunch) and it was sent shooting through my bloodstream. The veins of my wrist are not purple anymore, but then again they are still VERY visible. The veins of my legs are very spidery (spider veins all over the place). I feel it travel here and there as it makes the muscles around it twitch.I'm seeing an internal medicine doctor on the 25th to see what can be done.Would your body be able to break it down over time? Or is it something that needs to be surgically removed? right now I fell the small (size of a grain of sand) lump in a vein on the top of my right foot. I've been dosing myself with plenty of vitamins and such so I'm still alive :DA few weeks ago I felt it pass through my heart, scary feeling but like I said it was small and went through the valves fine (THANK GOD!) but gave me a quick chest pain which quickly went away. Monsterlove, your on the right track there as I am, it's related to the pulled tooth. I have mild gum disease which caused the rupture of my sinus cavity (the crunch). Then the sinus filled up with blood and the burst episode in the neck released it into my system (which is when I started noticing the varicose veins and purple veins). The veins in my legs are not as bulgy as they were, but again, still not cured.All the doctors and hospitals I went to never even thought of this which is why I'm filing a law suit against the hospital I went to twice. Medical Negligence. My lawyer says I have one ***l of a good case for it too since they never scanned my head which is where all this started.
    gabereiser 7 Replies
    • February 18, 2008
    • 08:21 PM
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  • You could have damaged sympathetic nerves in your face, watch for any weird facial changes and lines down your face. A condition called Perry Stromberg can be caused by damaging sympathetic nerves from dental work and can become quite disfiguring. Sympathetic nerves "talk to each other and can spread to other parts of your body. You may need a speneopaletine nerve block in your face. It is not a big deal procedure. lidocain injected in your sinus areas sometimes with a longer acting analgesic. The spread of nerve issues can affect your vascular symptoms. Sympathetic nerve damage must be contained to prevent RSD and full body vein burning. ARe you sure it is purple veins or just purple with swollen veins?
    Anonymous 1 Replies
    • November 17, 2015
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