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Help! Adderall RX is driving me crazy.

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • June 21, 2008
  • 02:36 AM

I hope someone can help me. I was diagnosed with ADD/ Dyslexia about 10 years ago and put on 10 mgs of Adderall once daily.
It was a Godsend until a year ago. I switched to Adderall RX (10 mgs per day) and was fine until the last month or so. Now, I can’t seem to settle down. I’m not sleeping well and I find that my body gets really tired around 5pm but unless I take a sleeping pill or a Klonopin (which my Dr. prescribed), I’m up till 5am! It’s incredibly frustrating because my body is so exhausted, but won’t allow me to sleep.
As soon as I wake up, I take another Adderall RX. I’m fine again for a while but get physically worn out easily.
I don’t know what to do because I’m on the lowest dose available and I do need something to help me concentrate. However, I do not want to be over-medicated and fall into the “Elvis Presley” cycle of taking uppers and downers. I’m not bi-polar and have never experienced mania before. Help! Has anyone else had this problem? What did you do to address it?
As a side note, I have been seeing a therapist to address depression and PTSD. I’ve gotten remarkably better and no longer dissociate to the degree that I used to. Perhaps this has had an effect?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

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  • I have had the same problem in the past. What I do now is take 5 or 10mg of Adderall only when I really need to concentrate, the rest of the time I just drink coffee. I take a dose about once a week and try to get as much work done at once as possible. That way I have time to fully recover and I don't get addicted. I guess you probably have a proscription to Adderall that prescribes daily uses, but there really is no reason why you can't take it when needed. psychiatrist have good evedance that Adderall helps people, but they just don't know how to prescribe it. Adderall in my experience really helps my dyslexia, but also comes with real draw backs.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 12, 2008
    • 06:10 AM
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  • lay off the adderall. it will kill your brain. trust me. soon you will have insomnia and lay in bed for 8+ hours and not sleep. when you close your eyes you will see flashes of peoples faces. muscles will deteriorate. brain will corrode from the inside out.
    nvapro 17 Replies
    • December 13, 2008
    • 05:53 AM
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  • That stuff about Adderall corroding your brain is just silly. I think maybe the problem is just switching to the XR (extended release). You may not be metabolizing the drug well and your levels are getting too high. Switch back to the short acting one and take it early in the AM. If you are going to have a long day and need to be focused, take another dose at lunch. Then no caffeine, alcohol, or anything that affects your sleep after lunch. You should sleep better. And yes, I agree with you, if you had some psych issues that have been ironed out, your depression may have lifted, which changes your brain chemistry, which in turn affects your sleep. You are probably used to running on very little norepinephrine, and now that you are pumping out some, the XR version of Adderall is too much for you.
    jenn96rn 14 Replies
    • December 13, 2008
    • 06:16 PM
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  • That stuff about Adderall corroding your brain is just silly. haha your right. corrode wasn't the word I was looking for it was erode!http://www.loni.ucla.edu/~thompson/MEDIA/METH/0720-sci-METH-ch.jpgNext you will try to point out methamphetamine is different from synthetic speed "amphetamine" It's really not, I would compare a hit of meth to one months supply of adderall. I know you did not just tell him to go from XR to instant. Jenn, lets just hypothetically pretend I took adderall for years and started having intense nightmares and couldn't sleep for days. Floaters in my eyes started to appear and my hands began to turn purple in the cold and my veins more prevalent due to hypertension and lack of o2 being delivered correctly. Lets just say HYPOTHETICALAdderall which travels through the endocrine system seeps through the your intestinal tube into the bloodstream up to the brain covers your neuro receptor that takes in dopamine, the dopamine bounces off which gives you that feel good feeling and stimulates your CNS because its a sympathomimetic drug could ultimately "wear" out your brain. Erode it from the inside out.Man this is stupid, why am I wasting my time writing this, if people actually think drugs are good for their bodies and necessary to function. even tho the human race has prevailed thus far and neurological disorders are skyrocketing through this day and age then fine. listen to jenn. Take the instant adderall. Take two 30's a day. The orange kind. Crush em up. Sniff em up to your brain and then you will become stronger and more healthY!!!! YAy!!!!!!
    nvapro 17 Replies
    • December 13, 2008
    • 07:19 PM
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  • Wow! Are you serious? I don't think that I said anything about stimulants being good for your body, or necessary to function. Since you said "drugs", as in all drugs, I should point out to you that many drugs are in fact good for you, and quite necessary, not only to function, but to survive, i.e. insulin, antihypertensives, antiepileptics, etc., etc., etc.. I certainly didn't suggest that Adderall should be crushed, snorted, or ingested in any way other than the way it is prescribed. In case you are not familiar with the extended release delivery system that is available in millions of drugs, many people don't do well with those drugs, and can take the immediate release drugs much more safely and effectively. It sounds like maybe you had (or have) some other problems that are affecting you and your health status. Not all drugs are good for all people. Some people can't tolerate any kind of stimulant at all, and if that is the case, they obviously shouldn't take them. Nor should they decide whether or not to do so based on any advice given to them on the internet (mine OR yours) for crying out loud. :eek:
    jenn96rn 14 Replies
    • December 16, 2008
    • 03:28 AM
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  • And by the way, Adderall is SO not the same thing as meth. I don't recall paint thinner being one of the ingredients in Adderall. I seem to still have all my teeth, no sores on my body, and I buy more than the king size loaf of generic white bread and a pack of kool-aid powder for my kids at the grocery store.:D
    jenn96rn 14 Replies
    • December 16, 2008
    • 03:32 AM
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  • Give him ***l,jenn!You're so right and he's so wrong.
    richard wayne2b 1232 Replies
    • December 27, 2008
    • 05:54 PM
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  • Thanks, Richard. Wow, there are alot of people on these boards who are scaring the crap out of everyone needlessly. Makes me want to stab myself in the eye. :)
    jenn96rn 14 Replies
    • January 5, 2009
    • 08:25 PM
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  • Hi, I just wanted to know if you have tried Strattera - it is a non-stimulant drug approved for the treatment of ADD. I am not sure if it will give you the help you need or not, but it may be worth discussing it with your doctor. It should not have as many negative side effects as the Adderall - especially the insomnia.
    trixylyn 3 Replies
    • January 6, 2009
    • 03:03 AM
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  • Thanks, Richard. Wow, there are alot of people on these boards who are scaring the crap out of everyone needlessly. Makes me want to stab myself in the eye. :)Actually, i dont think anyone is trying to scare the crap out of anyone. I think he made a lot of good points and brought up many symptoms that some people on Adderall have. The ugly side of Adderall is not discussed enough, people should be warned and know what they are getting themselves into before they ruin their life. Im not saying that will happen to everyone because I know that there are apparently(from reading online, not in real life) many people who do well on it and it really does help. However, I've seen wayy too many of my friends go down the tube fast with a doctor's rx to Adderall. Adderall has almost the exact same chemical make-up as cocaine and at super large doses, it could mimic meth. It will fry your brain because it makes your body chemically dependent on it to produce dopamine and other naturally produced neurotransmitters. When you quit taking it or it wears off, your brain is no longer producing these like it once did before you took it. It is expecting the Adderall to be there and do the work but when its not you will be left with almost no "feel good" or "pleasure" receptors being natural produced which will most likely lead to a deep depression along with many other things. There are so many different things it can do to a person. Its really scary to watch. I have known wonderful people with so much potential, that this drug has sucked all the life out of them and left them with nothing. I've seen everything from normal people becoming totally bipolar, crazy fits of rage/anger, loss of jobs/friends/everything, tics/tremors in people who never had them previously, being hyperfocused and wasting hours or even days consumed with something that isnt important, loss of care about anyone's feelings or well being around you, severe weight loss and change in looks, really i could go on for awhile but i think thats enough. Please dont assume that im speaking of only people that have abused this drug, because im not. i would say 90% of the people i've known to take it, have a legal rx and take it how precribed. All im trying to say is that everyone should know the risks and long term damage Adderall can do. Most sites you read or people you ask are going to tell you that its great, you can get so much done, feel great about yourself, etc. you dont hear the otherside much. It can and does happen very often so please just be careful with this drug. By the way, making fun of people and cracking jokes about this sort of thing is past inappropriate, rude and immature. There is in no way anything remotely funny about it.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 13, 2009
    • 10:20 PM
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  • Thanks, Richard. Wow, there are alot of people on these boards who are scaring the crap out of everyone needlessly. Makes me want to stab myself in the eye. :)Don't waste a good eye on scare mongers, Jenn. Or on anyone, for that matter. I find myself in the middle of the extreme opinions expressed here. I'm a prime example of what "Unregistered" wrote about. I'm one of those folks who went to a shrink because I knew I had to do SOMETHING or I was going to blow my head off (eyes and all). After taking SSRI's for 4 years and ballooning up in weight, I became depressed because of my weight gain and subsequent inability to lose it due to continued SSRI use. I'm in the music business and we all know how harsh the public is towards entertainers who pack on weight. Well, I put on an unhealthy 80 pounds within the first 3 months of SSRI's and never got it off. I tried discontinuing the SSRI's but once you're hooked, that's it. They are like any other drug. You need a full, professional detox and that is something I still feasibly can't do. My insurance is horrible and my job doesn't allow for sufficient time off accrual which would allow for a “mental health vacation”. And if my employers or investors knew about this issue, I’d be dropped. I'll try to cut to the chase here. I was put on Adderall about 2 years into my SSRI's. It was prescribed mainly to balance out the fact that I had ZERO sex drive and had turned into a blimp. I don’t even look like the same guy. The thing is - my appetite never changed. The SSRI's changed my metabolism to where no matter how many hours I put in at the gym, nothing mattered. So out of desperation AGAIN, I let the doc talk my dumb @ss into another drug. (Oddly enough, I would say that SSRI’s have done WAY MORE damaged to me than amphetamines, but it just depends on how ya look at it.)Adderall, in short, ruined me. I'll spare you my horror story as “Unregistered” NAILED it, but I've had to withdraw in the attempt to detox off Adderall SEVERAL times, but with only being able to take 4-5 days off at a time, a full recoup-detox is nearly impossible. I was determined to stay off of it after my last detox (and I did for a couple of months!) but I started putting on even more weight. (BTW - the Adderall did help me drop a total of 11 pounds. Sounds weak, but compared to GAINING after a workout...and yes, I’ve had three physical trainers and 2 nutritionists on the case as well.) So then the doc suggested Vyvanse. BIG mistake. Suicide City. Then she put me back on Adderall at a "small dose", thinking that I was just taking too much. Strangely, that made sense to me at the time. It was worth a shot. This time, the Adderall strangely and thankfully worked GREAT. In one month I lost the 12 pounds I put on and I wasn't "cracked out" like on Adderall. I banged out 4 new songs and started the plans for a new CD. What is interesting about this time around, is that the pharmacy I went to (be it mistakenly or stupidly) gave me (as I understand it) a generic DEXEDRINE, not Adderall. The bottle read "Amphetamine CMB". The pills were a different color (blue, not pink) and they tasted different. Well, not only did they work but I didn't have heinous withdrawals or suicide-inducing come-downs from it. I think it was exactly what my brain needed to get me back to the land of the living. I wasn't edgy, speedy or cranky at ALL. Still no sex drive, but at least music was back in my life. I think my wife is more grateful for the latter!!! That’s a whole other thread on a whole other site, though. BUT today I went to refill the aforementioned wonder-script and I walked out with those nasty pink generic D-Ampetamine (Adderall) pills and my heart sank. I recently had to switch pharmacies and I feared that this might happen, even after explaining what the previous pharm gave me, to my doctor. I highly doubt that ANY pharmacy has an "exchange" policy on Schedule II scripts, but I am going to run over later today with the bottle they gave me and try to explain the issue. We all know that pharmacies and doctors NEVER communicate successfully and the patient really has no say in most matters. I can explain what works for me to both docs and pharms until I’m blue in the face, but I’m sure I’m not alone in this frustration. It will prove to be a challenge, no doubt.I suppose my overall point is that before you let anyone scare you away from something, just LEARN about it first. I mean MORE than just reading the manufacture’s website!! Ask people you know who take the SAME drug and WHY they take it. ASK FOR A SAMPLE FROM YOUR DOC FIRST, BEFORE HANDING YOU A SCRIPT FOR AN ADDICTIVE DRUG!!! My story is like many; it takes a while to get the right drug prescribed. Granted, my body and brain have suffered a lot of the damage that "Unregistered" spoke of, but I'm confident in saying that if I was on the Dexedrine to begin with, none of this would have happened. The SSRI’s helped me obsess about things less, but the cons outweigh the pros. The Dexedrine helped improve a LOT of the damaged they caused. Adderall, however, just made matters ten times worse. Not all drugs, or drug users are EQUAL.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
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  • Actually, jenn...I know from personal experience that you are 100 percent correct. I am being treated for depression and PSTD as well as ADHD. I took the short-acting adderall for some time until my dr decided to put me on the XR. The XR was 5 mg less than I was taking yet when it came to nighttime, it seemed as I was prescribed too much. I didn't want to get into the upper/downer routine either. She changed me back once I explained the situation to her and I have had no problems since. To compare adderall (or ANY prescription drug needed for specific system) to such a heinous, evil street drug with so many detrimental components is just insane! I won't even dignify that post with further response. However, although Ike appeared to be agreeing with the other 'unregistered' at first~he summed his post by stating what I was thinking all along. If he, and all of unregistered friends that had trouble with adderall, had been prescribed what they truly needed all along~they wouldn't be having those side effects. I know that one would think that we can depend on the doctors to pay attention but with all the medical issues I have had lately that went undiagnosed for years (until I started self-advocated) I now know otherwise. Life is complicated & stressful enough...I am not going to be in the optimal state I can possibly be just because people abuse drugs or ones that should have been taking something different had negative experiences.
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  • I hope someone can help me. I was diagnosed with ADD/ Dyslexia about 10 years ago and put on 10 mgs of Adderall once daily. It was a Godsend until a year ago. I switched to Adderall RX (10 mgs per day) and was fine until the last month or so. Now, I can’t seem to settle down. I’m not sleeping well and I find that my body gets really tired around 5pm but unless I take a sleeping pill or a Klonopin (which my Dr. prescribed), I’m up till 5am! It’s incredibly frustrating because my body is so exhausted, but won’t allow me to sleep. As soon as I wake up, I take another Adderall RX. I’m fine again for a while but get physically worn out easily. I don’t know what to do because I’m on the lowest dose available and I do need something to help me concentrate. However, I do not want to be over-medicated and fall into the “Elvis Presley” cycle of taking uppers and downers. I’m not bi-polar and have never experienced mania before. Help! Has anyone else had this problem? What did you do to address it? As a side note, I have been seeing a therapist to address depression and PTSD. I’ve gotten remarkably better and no longer dissociate to the degree that I used to. Perhaps this has had an effect? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thank you!you should ask your dr. @ straterra, it isnonaddictive with no withdrawal symotoms and no sideeffects.
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