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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • July 30, 2007
  • 08:27 PM

Alright...you may think I am crazy now and maybe I am....but I hear voices.
I was wondering if anyone recognizes this?
It is not schizophrenia or psychosis. I looked it up. no trauma triggered it.
I am 30 years old and I have had them for years, they seem to be getting more active lately.

I mostly hear them in the evening when I am in my bed trying to sleep. They are not talking to me or about me. It is like I hear parts of conversations. Like radio channels switched at random. last night I heard one man speaking in dutch in one ear, another person in English in the other ear. Random parts of conversation. Also languages I don't know. It is usually not so interesting so i ignore them and try to sleep. Sometimes there are screams or growls or crys for help. Quite loud too, so sometimes that startles me, but I am never afraid of it. Weird right? It happens in either ear or both ears in a space surrounding my head. Feels like the space is part of my head, so i am not sure if the voices are in my head or in the room.

Also many times I see through my eyelids into the room, the room slightly changed from reality, sometimes light too. A bit annoying if you have to sleep with your eyes open and the lights on. If I open my eyes it's dark again. If I put my hand over my closed eyes I can still see....so....yeah....strange...

Physically I am healthy and I have never used drugs, alcohol or even smoked cigarettes. It doesn't really bother me, but I would like to know what it means, what it is that is "wrong" with me. Any ideas????

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  • What makes you think schizophrenia is triggered only by trauma? Go to a doctor NOW. You MUST be checked for other things before you would go to a psychiatrist. Early detection in necessary for you to function normally. Keep a journal about the voices, particulary the two voices. It is not going to get better, but you must see someone now for it not to get worse. Picture this, do you want to become one of those persons on the street who are having whole conversations with themselves? When you saw them, didn't you think something was wrong with them? Well, something is wrong with you now. Don't you want to shut up those voices just to get some good sleep? What does your family think is happening. Is there a friend who will help you? Those voices ARE in your head...and your good sense knows that you need help or you wouldn't have written us here. Hallucinations are seductive and can be pleasurable, which is why so many people don't seek help. Your last sentence says it all "They don't bother me". Well it should, and that might mean you are becoming addicted to your hallucinations. You are in charge of your health, not some little part of your brain that has become ill.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • Don't look up schizophrenia on the web. That would scare anyone. Just call your doc today.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • Thank you for the advice. Anyway, I already know a lot about schizophrenia because I am a therapist myself. My voices are different. They do not talk to me or about me. What I have is nit in the DSM-IV. I just would like to know what it is, if there is a name for it. I am not addicted to the voices, however I must admit it is interesting to listen sometimes. They don't interfere with my sleep. Once I fall asleep the sound is gone, and I go to sleep with them "talking in the background". I think if I do go to a doctor they will think I am crazy... I know the difference between my own thougts or fantasy and "another" voice. I know no one else but me hears them, so it is kind of in my head, but not quite. Hmm...I don't know. But I am OK. Just curious. Thanks.
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  • O.k., go to the hearing voices movement.com The position of the hearing voices movement can be summarised as follows:Hearing voice is in itself not a sign of mental illnessHearing voices are experienced by a great many people, without becoming ill.Hearing voices is related to problems in life history.To recover from the distress caused, the person has to learn to cope with their voices and the original problems that lie at the root of the experienceI always thought "hearing voices" was a sign of mental illness, and I guess I was wrong. Good luck. Let us know what happens.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • Are you in analysis? I am concerned that the voices are escalating and you are having a kind of vision also. Also that it started in your twenties. Are you a man? Now for the confession part. I too heard voices. I was about 5-6 years old and it was always a mutter. It made me mad that I couldn't hear it and I guess I outgrew it. I don't remember any trauma (except moving from one school to another). I was mildly dyslexic in my first school, but at the second school, I was so far ahead of their curriculum, I easily caught up. This enormous shot of self confidence probably helped me to dissolve the voices. Is your ego pretty strong at this time? Any personal problems? I would imagine a sensitive and imaginative therapist would possibly sympathize too much and create stress in YOUR life. Alternatively, the fillings in your teeth are picking up radio broadcasts. :D By the way, how did you know what language it was? Or do you live in a haunted house? Interested in paranormal research?
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • O.k., go to the hearing voices movement.com The position of the hearing voices movement can be summarised as follows:Hearing voice is in itself not a sign of mental illnessHearing voices are experienced by a great many people, without becoming ill.Hearing voices is related to problems in life history.To recover from the distress caused, the person has to learn to cope with their voices and the original problems that lie at the root of the experienceI always thought "hearing voices" was a sign of mental illness, and I guess I was wrong. Good luck. Let us know what happens.
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • rad-skw,thank you for sharing your experiences. I also went to the voices movement site...and that is where I read about trauma maybe causing it. I have had this since I was...4 years old maybe? From 6 for sure. I am a woman, 30 years old. I have suffered from an eating disorder (anorexia and bulimia) for 8 years, but recovered since two years. The voices were less frequent when I was really sick from the eating dosorders and now becoming more while I am really recovered. I am not in treatment, and have never really been (only about 5 sessions I guess). No personal problems right now, my life is pretty amazing and I am happy. I am busy, but who is not?Radio broadcast through fillings....who knows...hahaha...The language...I knew it was dutch because I am dutch, and I speak english. The other languages I heard I don't know.OK, I'll try to explain a bit more about the voices.They are not exactly in my head, certainly not "from within". Like, they are not my thoughts and also not interfering with my thoughts. I can think as I always am able to. Clear thoughts. I think about what the voices mean for example. They do not respond. It is hard to say where they come from, because I am quite sure if another person was in the room they would not be able to hear. When it happens I feel like my head opening a bit and expanding....like ten inches beyond my skull. So I feel the edge of my skull, but the contents of my head feel stretched beyond the skull. The voices sound like they do in a larger hall, not an echo but something different about them. I can still hear sounds from the room, but they are different, normal. And the voices travel in space a bit…coming closer and moving away from my ears.Hm…I also don’t feel like there are real people in the room with me. Just the sound of their voices. Last night I tried to hear them actively, but they wouldn’t come. Maybe really soft very far away, or maybe I made that up because I wanted to hear them. I do believe in spiritual and supernatural stuff, but I am not saying that this is what I am experiencing. I just don’t know what it is. Sometimes I hear peoples thoughts, most often when helping a client in therapy who is afraid to speak up. I use that information to casually bring up the subject and that invites the client to say what’s on his/her mind (sometimes in the exact words “I already heard”! But even these “voices” are very different from the ones I hear at night.Thanks for listening and advice :)
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • This sounds like it may be nuerological. You're getting your wires crossed. It could even be caused by a tumor in the brain. Make an appointment with a nuerologist.
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  • Do you ever watch "Medium"? She plays a radio loudly to shut the voices out. Have you ever tried taking a tranquilizer? Do the voices go away then?
    rad-skw 1,605 Replies Flag this Response
  • Maybe I should try the radio to see what happens.I have never taken a traquilizer in my life...and I don't like medicine unless it is really necessary. I am quite cautious and reluctant when it comes to pills etc. Only thing I know is, they go away when I am asleep. And it doesn't happen every night, so in a way it doesn't really bother me at all. I am just very curious what is going on in my brain, or in my room...whatever. By the way, I lived in several houses and it was the same in each house. So no haunted mansion ;) As for a tumor...I would have had it from birth almost until my 30's? Apart from the voices I am very healthy (only a bit constipated but that is because of laxative abuse in the past). Yeah, I don't feel sick. Maybe I have a brain with special effects that doesn't make me sick. If I only knew how to use it to my advantage...
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  • This sounds like sleep paralysis to me. Are you able to move when you hear these voices?I experience this very often, usually when I'm going to sleep... I'm somwhat dreaming with my consciousness is still in tact and I can still open my eyes. I often get auditory hallucinations (sometimes visual) and I feel as if I'm frozen. The voices kind of "ring" in my ears but feel distant at the same time... I don't know if this helps I hope it does.gl
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  • bobeeny,there you are saying something I haven't thought of!I do have sleep paralysis sometimes, when I know my body is sleeping and I can't move and wake up. I see things, hear things, feel things (usually not so nice ahum...) and sometimes I get up out of my body and walk/float/swim/fly around the room or even outside, walking through doors seeing the inside of the wood etc. Now...the voices do have some resemblence to the sounds and voices I hear when I have sleep paralysis, BUT I am not asleep here, not even my body. I can move, get up, open my eyes, talk....anything I want. But maybe this is a sort of sleep paralysis occuring before the body sleeps. Even sitting in a chair being in company with another person it happened once or twice. Maybe a part of my concience goes to sleep???Anyway, I am still not sure what sleep paralysis actually IS you know? Am I imagining everything or am I really outside my body etc.Sleep paralysis leaves me tired, exhausted sometimes. (I haven't had it in a few months now...) The vocies I hear now don't tire me. Could be a new (and for me more managable) form of sleep paralysis, whatever that may be :)Thanks for the suggestion.
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  • I find this thread very interesting :) anyway, I looked up hallucinations on wikipedia and found this:"Peduncular HallucinosisPeduncular means pertaining to the peduncle, which is a name given to a neural tract running to and from the pons. These hallucinations occur most often in the evenings, but not during drowsiness as in the case of hypnagogic hallucination as described above. The subject is usually fully conscious and can interact with the hallucinatory characters for extended periods of time. As in the case of hypnagogic hallucinations, insight into the nature of the images remains intact. The false images can occur in any part of the visual field, and are rarely polymodal."Something worth researching?
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  • Hey!I looked it up, interesting how hallcinations can come from many pats in the brain. As for "my voices", Peduncular Hallucinosis is about visual hallucinations, sometimes together with voices if the people you see speak as well. I don't see people with the voices. When I see things it is not connected to the voices and many times I just hear the voices without any visuals. Als, I haven't been able to interact with the voices. I want to try that, but for the last couple of days I haven't herd them. I feel stressed about money issues and the voices come more easily when I am relaxed.I'll let you know when I got the chance to explore :)
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  • OK, I just registered, thought it would be easier to have a name here ;) Just so you know, I am the one with the hallucinations :p Oh...and I just posted a reply when i was still unregistered but I see it is not here yet...so it will appear under this one. Sorry for the confusion!
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  • I have had all types of hallucinations over the years and was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder and given a billion different antipsychotics until I finally got a doctor with a brain who knew immediately that it was "TEMPORAL LOBE EPILESPY" - they are called partial, complex seizures and can be auditory, visual, gustatory, and olfactory, I find auditory to be the most common. If I had a zillion dollars I would bet that is what you have - might be worth getting checked out. PS - the antipsychotics make TLE worse and gave me more seizures (go figure). I don't even take antiseizure meds now - just not taking the antipsychotics has decreased the seizures dramatically. If it is weird, it will happen to me. LOL
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  • hey, I'm in the club too! I had these when I was a little girl but seemed to grow out of them around the age of 11, altho I did have 2 out of body exps in my 20's. I also had a vision of the victims of a plane crash minutes before i heard the crash announced on a tv in the other room when I was 35. I'm 46 now and nothing since then. I always felt the voices were like a radio in my head, and I was totally distant from the interaction like you. With all my episodes I could think clearly and rationally analyze what was going on (altho I was totally unaware when I was a kid that hearing voices was something not everybody did, so I pretty much just ignored it). In fact I remember once mentioning it to my mom and she dismissed it saying i was hearing a television thru the wall of the apt - that was the first inkling that what i was hearing might not be normal - was definitely NOT a tv but people talking in my mind... There is history of mental illness in my family (father had psychotic episodes), but I always believed I avoided anything major due to a relatively happy, uneventful childhood. I was diagnosed with cyclothymia in my 20's, but seem to have outgrown that too - I actually think that was just really bad pms. So maybe we're just genetically vulnerable to mental illness, but just lucky by circumstance that the environmental card didn't cause us to develop any full-blown psychosis and any eventual chronic illness. Temporal lobe epilepsy makes sense too - someone else once told me that it sounded like that.
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  • Hello All!! What a very interesting thread. My advice to all of you is to find NAET/Bioset therapy. A few months ago, one of my many sx was ringing in the ears...not the same as the auditory "voices and languages", I know. The tinnitus would get really bad sometimes to the point of not being able to heart myself think. I also suffered nightmares and night terrors on a regular basis when I slept. This therapy has helped me get my life back. Eatafruit78 recommended it to me and I went... I now have my life back and am going back to work for the first time in a long time. Wish you all well...mommy cat
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  • Do you ever watch "Medium"? She plays a radio loudly to shut the voices out. Have you ever tried taking a tranquilizer? Do the voices go away then? I totally agree with the above, try head phones, put them in ur ears at night, listen to music to distract the voices and i do agree that you maybe in need of medication (tranquilizer) take care:)
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  • GWEN Towers, HAARP & Satellite GPS-EMF Control Gridhttp://www.mindcontrolforums.com/gwen-haarp-satellite-gps-emf-control-grid.htm"GWEN is a superb system, in combination with cyclotron resonance, for producing behavioural alterations in the civilian population. The average strength of the steady geomagnetic field varies from place to place across the United States. Therefore, if one wished to resonate a specific ion in living things in a specific locality, one would require a specific frequency for that location. The spacing of GWEN transmitters 200 miles apart across the United States would allow such specific frequencies to be 'tailored' to the geomagnetic-field strength in each GWEN area."- Robert O. Becker, M.D., in "Crosscurrents: The Perils of Electropollution""Russian satellites, controlled by advanced computers, can send voices in one's own language interweaving into natural thoughts to the population of choice to form diffused artificial thought. The chemistry and electricity of the human brain can be manipulated by satellite and even suicide can be induced. Through ferocious anti-humanitarian means, the extremist groups are fabricated, the troubles and bloody disturbances are instigated by advanced tele-means via Russian satellites, in many countries in Asia, Africa, Europe and Latin America."
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