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Fibromyalgia-like symptoms from sleep apnea

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • August 13, 2007
  • 04:51 PM

In my search for the cause of my new symptoms I found that "if one deprives normal people of slow wave sleep, they develop fibromyalgia symptoms!" The information is on the following website:

http://www.thesleepsite.com/fibromyalgia.html
Columbus Community Health
Regional Sleep Disorders Center

And I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia in 2000. And both my primary and endo now say I never had it.

My DH says I've had sleep problems for 19 years. The sleep study's doctor said at least 10 years. I was diagnosed with sleep apnea this month.

Interestingly, my Fibromyalgia-like sx's are returning and the exercise intolerance is one of them. I thought the thyroid being regulated, which it is, would prevent these sx's which are also thyroid sx's. This information about sleep apnea causing Fibro-like sx's answers quite a few questions. And it solves the mystery of my new sx's which I asked about in a different thread which is below:

OK, My turn to pick your brains ... mommy cat and whoever wants to help http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=18951

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  • I believe just the opposite is true...Fibromyalgia which is closely linked to chronic fatigue syndrome(some even believe they are one in the same disease)...causes sleep apnea, not the other way around... A person does not develop joint/muscle pain from having sleep apnea. A person does not develop allergies from sleep apnea....see where I'm going with this?...does it make sense? It's like when a patient presents to a doctor with a list of 75 symptoms and the doctor runs all kinds of tests, finds nothing and sends the patient to a psychiatrist for evaluation of "mental problems" psychiatrists tell us we are having physical symptoms of illness because we are depressed. TRUTH IS, WE ARE DEPRESSED BECAUSE WE ARE PHYSICALLY ILL.... The brain is an organ just like the liver....kidneys....they are all parts that make up the whole....If your liver is not functioning properly, chances are neither is your brain. we believe what we are told....I've started to question....and I have found many answers. Dxd...hope this helps and you are well.....trying to help...mommy cat
    mommy cat 1654 Replies
    • August 13, 2007
    • 05:50 PM
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  • I believe just the opposite is true...Fibromyalgia which is closely linked to chronic fatigue syndrome(some even believe they are one in the same disease)...causes sleep apnea, not the other way around... A person does not develop joint/muscle pain from having sleep apnea. A person does not develop allergies from sleep apnea....see where I'm going with this?...does it make sense?The article talks about both Fibromyalgia and researchers purposely causing sleep deprivation causing sleep apnea. I think you missed the point of what I shared. For me, my sleep apnea is a symptom of Hashimoto's and not caused by Fibro. Yet, I have Fibro-like sx's which lead to my being misdiagnosed by a rheumy who said I had Fibro. I've had Hashi's for 30 years and sleep apnea for 19 years.I believe the same thing as you in regards to Fibro causing sleep apnea as the article states. However, how many people are diagnosed with Fibro, like me, who don't/didn't have it? I am sure I'm not the only one. That was my point.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 14, 2007
    • 07:01 AM
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  • Dxd.....not sure if you realize, Fibro and CFS are basically the same....people with these issues often have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis...what I'm trying to say is that the HT.....is not a "diagnosis"...it is a symptom, if that makes any sense... Thyroid issues and sleep apnea are just two....there are many hope you find your answers....trying to clarify.....mommy cat
    mommy cat 1654 Replies
    • August 14, 2007
    • 09:46 PM
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  • Well I don't believe Hashi's is a symptom. If it was, then how would the correct dose of thyroid medication heal the disease (when you don't have sleep apnea or another condition or disease)? And no symptoms return?And for those with both Hashi's and sleep apnea, a symptom of Hashi's, how would the disease heal when treated with the correct dose of thyroid medication and being treated for sleep apnea? And no symptoms return?Since treating symptoms doesn't work in the long run, these two scenarios shouldn't be happening. That's not logical. That's why I believe that Hashi's is an actual disease. For 30 years, I've had doctors, naturopaths, chiropractors, and nutritionists treat my symptoms and I never got any better. And I had one doctor treat me like the NAET method for supposed allergies and allergy-type symptoms only to have those symptoms return. That was 1982. Only now am I seeing the results of being treated with the proper medications at the proper levels and having doctors address all my conditions.Unless you can prove it scientifically and medically, I'll stick with the research I've found which proves Hashi's is a disease not a symptom of a disease. Other conditions such as sleep apnea can augment thyroid disease thereby making it difficult to treat (and even diagnose - why I got so many misdiagnoses) until those conditions are brought under control too.I know that Fibro and CFS are considered the same condition. Just because those with Fibro/CFS have thyroid disease, doesn't mean thyroid disease is now a symptom. That's not logical thinking. It is more like there are, for some people, a cluster of diseases which they have, rather than a cluster of symptoms. And those are caused by ... stress? Stress triggers autoimmune disorders to start. Stress aggravates diseases (and especially autoimmune diseases) like Fibro/CFS, thyroid disease, Addison's, Diabetes, etc. And stress can come in many forms - unhealthy diet, unhealthy air, unhealthy lifestyle, lack of exercise, too much exercise, too much of the wrong fats, stressful work environment, genetic predisposition, polluted earth, air and water, contracting another disease, etc.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 14, 2007
    • 10:36 PM
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  • CFS and Fibromyalgia ARE completely DIFFERENT CONDITIONS with very different diagnostic criteria thou the conditions often over lap (comorphid conditions). They have DIFFERENT treatments. One also dont hear of ones with fibro getting neurological tremors and going unconsciousness.. which can happen with CFS and more, they are different. CFS is often immunological and neurological and one has symptoms as such. (I really wish people wouldnt lump them in together). Saying they are the same.. to me is like saying that having IBS is the same as having CFS (these both are comorphid conditions too), when IBS just like FM is just one of the CFS symptoms.
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • August 15, 2007
    • 08:50 AM
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