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extremely painful bowel movements

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  • Posted By: lynn263
  • March 10, 2007
  • 03:31 PM

for about three or four weeks I ahave had upper right abodominal pain and lower right abdominal pain with extremely painful bowel movements. high ketones whenever i go to the doctor, although i am eating and drinking as i should. i have had some loss of appetite but other days i am eating everything in site. i am experiencing bloating and heavy gas daily. help.....

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  • Hi Lynn,What does your doctor say? Has the doctor ordered any tests? Liver functioning? Do you have a fever? How is your color (like of your skin and eyes)? Sorry for the long string of questions, but just with what you've posted, I don't have any clear ideas.Best,Shula
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  • I am not sure I know what you mean by high ketones (is this in your blood or your urine?) and has the doctor provided an explanation? I don't like the sound of extremely painful bowel movements and I think you probably need to be checked with a physical examination. There are lots of potential causes and you will need to provide the doctor with a bit more information. It might well be that it will just go away, but I think you should get it checked out properly.
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  • Had a CT scan with that barium drink and some type of intravenous solution yesterday and some blood work done. High ketones were in the urine. Dr has some concerns but I have to wait this out until tests are back I guess.
    lynn263 6 Replies Flag this Response
  • Please do not listen to anything Shula or Acuann tell you. My sister just passed away because Shula and Acuann told her that her doctor was wrong and she did not have a serious condition. Acuann even told her to get acupuncture to get healed. These people are going to be investigated for practicing medicine without a license. Shula and Acuann are specifically wanted in connection with my sisters homocide. Thats right homocide. If she would have listened to her doctor instead of these internet quacks she would still be here today. Rest assured I will do everything in my power to put these two behind bars and shut this website down for good.
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  • Lynn, I think it is probably best to await the outcome of the further tests. High ketone levels in urine often means diabetes, but doctors are usually well on top of that. They can be caused if you are not eating or absorbing food correctly also (as a by-product when fat is broken down). Are you losing weight or are you underweight? If you are on a low carb diet, this can cause high ketone levels. There are other causes also, but it is speculative to suggest anything without the test results.
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  • Now the test results are in. No answers yet. Just referral to a hepatologist because they found several very large cysts on my liver. And a referral to my ob/gyn because the ovary that was left in when I had a hysterectomy several years ago due to second stage ovarian cancer is full of cysts. They think that scar tissue/edometriosis may have built up around the intestines causing the pain during bowel movements. So, no answers just a prescription for pain.
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  • Hi,Given some of the strange posts lately, where people are pretending to be others, I'm hoping to see a confirmation post with a logged in Lynn, and not just annonymous. That's a pretty heavy set of results.Shula
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  • reset my password. yes, it's me.
    lynn263 6 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi Lynn,Sorry for being so careful. Your results sound pretty scary, I think. Each thing may turn out to be boring, and I hope they do. But there does seem to be some chance of cancer there, and if it were me, I'd make sure that the Gyn and hepatologist that I went to were both oncology specialists as well. Call their offices, and ask. If they aren't, they'll likely know who is in your local area.Liver just isn't something you want to underestimate. If it turns out to be no big deal, that would be fantastic, and no one will be annoyed that you responded so strongly. If, on the other hand, there is anything there that is pre-cancerous or worse, time can really make a difference. So my advice is to assume it will all show up to be benign stuff like painful scar adhesions, but act fast, as if it were a cancer. I hope this isn't too much of a bummer of a post. Honestly, I think your painful bowel movements might even not have anything to do with your liver and ovary, but just happened to be the thing that got you in for the necessary tests to find out you had problems going on there. Take that good luck, and use it to apply your best medical future.Good luck.Post an update when you find out anything.Shula
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  • Ok, not to go on about this but when I was at the doctor last week she seemed to brush off the liver cysts as something we get with age. After the post yesterday, I can not help but be concerned so I called the doctors office and asked if those cysts looked any different than the ones that showed up two years ago. First they asked what I was referring to and then looked and saw that they were indeed much larger and more of them than two years ago. So....am I to assume that my doctor PCP didn't even look at my medical history???????? the other day. I hate to think that.............Now it seems that I have an appointment with the hepatologist tomorrow am instead of next week??????????
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  • Good for you for being persistant! You know, you really have to just demand that docs take the time with you. Many are really great, but there are just as many who are overworked or for whatever reasons they just don't take the time that is needed to help you. I hope you get some answers. Best wishesDOM
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  • Ok, not to go on about this but when I was at the doctor last week she seemed to brush off the liver cysts as something we get with age. Some doctors are not good with saying anything but the best spin they can find. These cysts may be "normal." But it is sheer lack of attention to not give you any more information than that. On the other hand, that is why that doc isn't a liver specialist, I guess.After the post yesterday, I can not help but be concerned so I called the doctors office and asked if those cysts looked any different than the ones that showed up two years ago. First they asked what I was referring to and then looked and saw that they were indeed much larger and more of them than two years ago. So....am I to assume that my doctor PCP didn't even look at my medical history the other day????????I don't know that you can assume anything. But depending on your relationship, you might ask. Or you might just move forward, knowing you have better things to do with your time...with one big caveat: you really need to hold this doctor to a higher standard than the doc has been taking with you so far. If you go back, and ever get a blase answer like that again, you will want to double check. Of course, knowing what to ask, right on the spot, is hard. So you will probably need to call back again just like this time.Now it seems that I have an appointment with the hepatologist tomorrow am instead of next week??????????That is VERY good. I am happy they are moving. As I said before...it is all probably not a big deal, but the fact that it *could* be something wrong with your liver, means they should move quickly to get to the bottom of your problem. Learning to advocate for your own health is a necessity as we get older, and have more and more obscure problems. I used to think that doctors and hospitals would just take care of what I needed taken care of. I have learned the hard way that this is unfortunately not the case. Keep writing back here as you learn more, and have more questions. Sometimes just having a place to bounce your thoughts around, can help you take care of yourself better.Best,Shulaps. I'm really not sure what the moderator thanked me for.
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  • Hi Lynn, I have been having the same painful bowel movements as it sounds like you are having. I dread going to the bathroom, it is the worst pain that i have ever felt in my life. Are the pain medicines helping with the pain? I have a doctors appointment tomorrow, but i have had two recently and the kinda blew me off too... So keep posted this has helped me out! Thank you! -Keri
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  • yes it is good to just have someplace to have a sanity check. otherwise your mind can start playing games on you. i do appreciate the imput.
    lynn263 6 Replies Flag this Response
  • Lynn, what did the consultant suggest might be the problem?
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  • Much to my shock to say the least...endometrial cancer stage 2 so maybe not so bad. Very concerned since I had a hysterectomy after diagnosis of ovarian cancer four years ago. just can't quite get over the shock of all this. I am just trying to breathe for a minute to let in all sink in. Not doing so well though.
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  • Hi Lynn,Stage two is still treatable. Feeling all messed up about that kind of diagnosis is normal. Just don't let it keep you from moving quickly. I'm just glad they are figuring out what you've got, and what to do about it. Are you still dealing with the hepatologist, or are you finding a oncologist?Please keep us posted here, Lynn. Sometimes it is easier to share your worst with caring strangers. Blessings,Shula
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  • Thanks for the support. I am even more taken back that it was an ER doctor that found this. My pain was so severe last week that he wouldn't let me go until he had run enough tests to feel comfortable about letting me go. I am grateful to this young intern, it took him pressing the gyn, PCP, and hepatologist.
    lynn263 6 Replies Flag this Response
  • I am sorry to hear about your cancer diagnosis. Please visit this website:www.cancerfightingstrategies.com. It is a free, very valuable resource with tons of info on treating cancer using alternative approaches. It is very informative, and lengthy (it's 81 pages but worth printing out and reading). The best treatments for cancer are basically to try a multipronged approach. Chemo, radiation and surgery are only parts of the arsenal. The bottom line is if your cells are oxygenated and your immune system is strong, your body will fight the cancer. Please do your research on this and best of luck to you! Best wishesDOM
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