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Do I have Acid Reflux, or is my stomach simply angry atm?

Posted In: I cannot get a diagnosis. 12 Replies
  • Posted By: PossibleReflux
  • June 28, 2008
  • 08:51 PM

(I had tried to post this without registering in the gastro forums, but decided to register and put it here)

21, male, healthy. Started drinking a lot when I turned 21. Hard liquor, straight, on and off for awhile. Settled down with wine almost daily. Around June 1st bought a couple bottles of brandy, finished them off, straight, about June 5th. June 6th, bought a bottle of gin (never had gin). Upon drinking the gin (mixed with ginger ale and lemon juice) I started feeling like I needed to take a deep breath. Woke up the next day to burning between my collar bones and a feeling like I need to take a deep breath every 3-4 min.

Doctors did blood work, ekg, esophagram (barium swallow test), listened to my lungs, and ruled out any hiatal hernias. They suspect GERD, but I've never had GERD or any GERD-like symptoms my entire life. I eat spicy foods too, and never experienced this. Doesn't hurt to swallow, but air (when I breathe) irritates it. I no longer need gasping deep breaths, but simply unnoticeable sighs through my nose. I get out of breath faster.

People have said this is acid reflux and that it may be permanent, but I have a hard time believing that some frequent drinking has landed me a chronic reflux condition that will never go away. I am leaning more towards the idea that this is a temporary stomach problem that will eventually go away.

It gets better when I lie down (contrary to what GERD sufferers report). The burning between the collar bones is close to my throat, I never have any chest/stomach burning ever. Read about Laryngoesphageal reflux, and I don't have any hoarseness or voice problems. Although I do have a minor cough that accompanies the collar bone burning.

The burning is not a stinging feeling, it is that feeling you get between your collar bones after you've ran as fast as you can and you can't run anymore. You try to catch your breathe but with each exhalation you irritate something and you get that feeling smack dab between you collar bones. That's the exact feeling I'm feeling.

I also burp a lot now (not belching, in fact you wouldn't even realize I was doing it, more like a silent gassy burp where I don't even have to open my mouth).

I intend on going for an endoscopy to rule out reflux.

All of this just hit me in one night (June 6th). No prior warning signs, not a single one, and I am very in tune with my body. They put me on prilosec thinking it was reflux, and it did not help. Antibiotics did not help either.

I'm used to never worrying about my health ever, so this is extremely psychologically stressful. I find myself looking at objects in my house, favorited videos on YouTube, and writings dated before all this started, while thinking "I felt so different when I watched/wrote/saw that". This entire situation has totally thrown me off mentally. I've stopped drinking completely as well and have been eating smaller meals and no spicy food in order to rule out any type of reflux.

I do not like the idea of taking pills, and I already have made up my mind that I will not go on any PPI's or have any types of surgery, as I have heard so many horror stories about these procedures and methods, as well as dependencies.

Again, when I want to know something, I go all out. So I've become a semi-guru on Acid Reflux over this past month. I can say for certain that I am missing a whole lot of the common patterns that usually signify symptoms of GERD, but I cannot rule out the possibility that this is a stomach problem, I just think it may be something more temporary than chronic.

I have no history of anxiety, no history of panic attacks, no history of hypochondria or paranoia. I am weirded out by these symptoms and they are causing me a great deal of unease. My sense of well-being has been shaken. I am usually a care-less and extremely confident person, but I find myself acting more "clingy" and "unsure" after worrying about my health. I can't get my mind off it and when I do, I still realize that I don't "feel right". I also get a spaced out feeling after I eat now, like nothing is real.

Every time a test comes back ok, I get worried even more, since I want them to find something and tell me that it will go away, instead of finding nothing.

I know this isn't mental, as I have never had this happen before, nor have I ever cared about my health as much. I've had toe nails removed due to infected ingrown nails. I've had stitches due to large lacerations, and was so lackadaisical about it, that I never even took the antibiotics. Something is wrong, and the fact I can't figure it out is driving my insane. I don't want a chronic problem.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

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  • I find it disheartening that 12 people have read this without posting anything.
    PossibleReflux 1 Replies Flag this Response
  • I find it disheartening that 12 people have read this without posting anything.Man...i read ur info and i swear i was writing it.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • Heh, as the other guy said, "How did I not write this." Same symptoms exactly. I noticed a feeling as if I had been breathing really heavy. It seemed to happen a lot. I never associated it with drinking, although I had started drinking more bourbon when before it was just beer. I drank a shot and a beer every day, maybe two beers on occasion. Like I said, I never associated it with drinking until I was put on some medication for another problem, and was told not to drink. The feeling went away, although I didn't really notice. After a week of not drinking, I took a shot and drank a couple of beers and within an hour the feeling came back. FINALLY it hit me that they may be related.Got no advice, I am just learning about this myself.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • This sounds like the story of my life. I saw you mentioned plans to get an endoscopy done...the endoscopy will serve more of a purpose than just ruling out acid reflux though. Unless it is completely coincidental, this sounds like a GI issue to me. I noticed the post is from a year ago, so I'm assuming things have been resolved but update your post to let everyone know how you are. Good luck.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • This sounds just like what i am going through but when the first thing my doc. Wanted to do was the thing down the throat i said no because it sounded like a money thing , so i went to my old doc. And he said it was a money thing, he also told me babies are getting it now so it is something to it. If you find a cure and not just a releif for a minute please let me know. It has to be another way to find out other than being put to sleep and putting something down your throat. I wish us all well.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 21, 2009
    • 09:04 PM
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  • I sometimes get seasonal allergies, so around March/April would begin taking OTC Zyrtec. I did that for years and every summer I always thought my struggle to take deep breaths was from my allergies. Well, during a cold one winter, I was told to take an antihistamine to stop my running nose. After the first day back on the Zyrtec, I felt the same struggle to take deep breaths! I finally linked my deep breathing troubles on the OTC Zyrtec and immediately stopped. That was a year ago and I've been struggle free! :-) I now take a prescription allergy medication, which has no effects like the Zyrtec. I dont know if you maybe take any OTC medications that might have the same side effect. Or if you have some allergies that may cause the breathing troubles. But one by one, eliminate what you think might be causing the problems and you might be able to figure it out. As for the GERD symptoms, try taking OTC Prevacid for 14 days consecutively. If that seems to work after about 5 days, it might be GERD. If it doesnt resolve your issues, I would most definitely get an endoscopy to check for ulcers or what not.Sorry for such a delayed response, but I hope you figure it out!! :-)
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  • Hey, next time you get that feeling which you described, take some Pepto Bismol and see if the feeling goes away. It really sounds to me like you have had something develop in either your esophagus or stomach. Ive had somewhat the same occurences in the past and pepto bismol has definitely helped. About this thing with your health changing rather quickly and abruptly...ya gotta remember that the human body is complex and we dont all have the same tolerances. What one person can take for years can quickly and severely sicken another...goodluck and let me know how it goes...I am curious to know...(I had tried to post this without registering in the gastro forums, but decided to register and put it here) 21, male, healthy. Started drinking a lot when I turned 21. Hard liquor, straight, on and off for awhile. Settled down with wine almost daily. Around June 1st bought a couple bottles of brandy, finished them off, straight, about June 5th. June 6th, bought a bottle of gin (never had gin). Upon drinking the gin (mixed with ginger ale and lemon juice) I started feeling like I needed to take a deep breath. Woke up the next day to burning between my collar bones and a feeling like I need to take a deep breath every 3-4 min. Doctors did blood work, ekg, esophagram (barium swallow test), listened to my lungs, and ruled out any hiatal hernias. They suspect GERD, but I've never had GERD or any GERD-like symptoms my entire life. I eat spicy foods too, and never experienced this. Doesn't hurt to swallow, but air (when I breathe) irritates it. I no longer need gasping deep breaths, but simply unnoticeable sighs through my nose. I get out of breath faster. People have said this is acid reflux and that it may be permanent, but I have a hard time believing that some frequent drinking has landed me a chronic reflux condition that will never go away. I am leaning more towards the idea that this is a temporary stomach problem that will eventually go away. It gets better when I lie down (contrary to what GERD sufferers report). The burning between the collar bones is close to my throat, I never have any chest/stomach burning ever. Read about Laryngoesphageal reflux, and I don't have any hoarseness or voice problems. Although I do have a minor cough that accompanies the collar bone burning. The burning is not a stinging feeling, it is that feeling you get between your collar bones after you've ran as fast as you can and you can't run anymore. You try to catch your breathe but with each exhalation you irritate something and you get that feeling smack dab between you collar bones. That's the exact feeling I'm feeling. I also burp a lot now (not belching, in fact you wouldn't even realize I was doing it, more like a silent gassy burp where I don't even have to open my mouth). I intend on going for an endoscopy to rule out reflux. All of this just hit me in one night (June 6th). No prior warning signs, not a single one, and I am very in tune with my body. They put me on prilosec thinking it was reflux, and it did not help. Antibiotics did not help either. I'm used to never worrying about my health ever, so this is extremely psychologically stressful. I find myself looking at objects in my house, favorited videos on YouTube, and writings dated before all this started, while thinking "I felt so different when I watched/wrote/saw that". This entire situation has totally thrown me off mentally. I've stopped drinking completely as well and have been eating smaller meals and no spicy food in order to rule out any type of reflux. I do not like the idea of taking pills, and I already have made up my mind that I will not go on any PPI's or have any types of surgery, as I have heard so many horror stories about these procedures and methods, as well as dependencies. Again, when I want to know something, I go all out. So I've become a semi-guru on Acid Reflux over this past month. I can say for certain that I am missing a whole lot of the common patterns that usually signify symptoms of GERD, but I cannot rule out the possibility that this is a stomach problem, I just think it may be something more temporary than chronic. I have no history of anxiety, no history of panic attacks, no history of hypochondria or paranoia. I am weirded out by these symptoms and they are causing me a great deal of unease. My sense of well-being has been shaken. I am usually a care-less and extremely confident person, but I find myself acting more "clingy" and "unsure" after worrying about my health. I can't get my mind off it and when I do, I still realize that I don't "feel right". I also get a spaced out feeling after I eat now, like nothing is real. Every time a test comes back ok, I get worried even more, since I want them to find something and tell me that it will go away, instead of finding nothing. I know this isn't mental, as I have never had this happen before, nor have I ever cared about my health as much. I've had toe nails removed due to infected ingrown nails. I've had stitches due to large lacerations, and was so lackadaisical about it, that I never even took the antibiotics. Something is wrong, and the fact I can't figure it out is driving my insane. I don't want a chronic problem. Any suggestions are appreciated.
    ckanaan 33 Replies Flag this Response
  • Wow that does not sound like fun. What did your latest test show? I would tend to think it may be related to drinking. Looks like I am not the only one with this idea. When you drink it is a sedative and can relax you. You may be having this because the muscle that closes your stomach off from your thought is to relaxed and is staying slightly open. I would suggest not drinking for a week or so and see if that helps.
    thad99 6 Replies
    • October 31, 2010
    • 10:33 PM
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  • Acid reflux treatment may vary from person to person, depending on the severity of the sickness and the individual’s body situation. Acid reflux is a disease that cannot be cured easily it needs lot of care and treatment to be undergone. One should never ignore thinking it is a minor problem he should go to doctor as soon as he feels uneasiness in his stomach and ask for the treatment required to be followed.
    Rickey 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Your problem can be solved in a very simple way but you will have to sacrifice lot of things for that. First of all as far as possible don’t drink much. It will be good if you will be able to take your break fast, lunch and dinner daily in time. Similarly it will be advantageous if you can go for vegan diet at least for two months. Drink as much water as you can in whole day. Try simple food in daily meals. Keep a gap of at least two hours for your eating habits. As far as possible avoid spicy and oily food. Every time when you will eat, take the food in average quantity.
    uioprt 6 Replies Flag this Response
  • Your problem can be solved in a very simple way but you will have to sacrifice lot of things for that. First of all as far as possible don’t drink much. It will be good if you will be able to take your break fast, lunch and dinner daily in time. Similarly it will be advantageous if you can go for vegan diet at least for two months. Drink as much water as you can in whole day. Try simple food in daily meals. Keep a gap of at least two hours for your eating habits. As far as possible avoid spicy and oily food. Every time when you will eat, take the food in average quantity.
    uioprt 6 Replies Flag this Response
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  • Wow that does not sound like fun. What did your latest test show? I would tend to think it may be related to drinking. Looks like I am not the only one with this idea. When you drink it is a sedative and can relax you. You may be having this because the muscle that closes your stomach off from your thought is to relaxed and is staying slightly open. I would suggest not drinking for a week or so and see if that helps.Do check your pulse Your problem can be solved in a very simple way but you will have to sacrifice lot of things for that. First of all as far as possible don’t drink much. It will be good if you will be able to take your break fast, lunch and dinner daily in time. Similarly it will be advantageous if you can go for vegan diet at least for two months. Drink as much water as you can in whole day. Try simple food in daily meals. Keep a gap of at least two hours for your eating habits. As far as possible avoid spicy and oily food. Every time when you will eat, take the food in average quantity.
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