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CHEMTRAILS-Is this why you are sick?

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  • Posted By: mommy cat
  • September 20, 2007
  • 09:35 PM

Anyone heard of this phenomena?

Many believe it is a big part of the underlying cause of illness.
I agree.

search CHEMTRAILS...see what you find.

I spent the past 2 days taking photos of them over my house in central New York...anyone else seen these things?

The trail remains but the plane/jet is nowhere around. Contrails disappear after about 10-12 seconds...these trails hung out all day and spread out...like clouds.

responses welcome. If anyone is interested in seeing the photos..contact me here and I will send them to you.

Stay well and stay informed...stay VERY informed..mommy cat:)

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  • Dear Eatafruit, I’ll just ignore the sarcasm and inform you that as there are no two people alike, what can I say, staying in bed and insecurity about the future made me depressed. If other people have other coping techniques, I am really happy for them. I am a bit confused here. Can you actually explain to me how liver, lung and pancreas problems lead to depression? Re. the other stuff you mention, I am not “ ticked off” by people I don’t know, but by irresponsibility in presenting inaccurate information, particulalry to people who are already vulnerable due to what they have been going through. SSRI’s do not work by repressing neurotransmitters. Quite the contrary, I would say. “SSRIs seem to relieve symptoms of depression by blocking the reabsorption (reuptake) of serotonin by certain nerve cells in the brain. This leaves more serotonin available in the brain. As a result, this enhances neurotransmission — the sending of nerve impulses”I think that with respect to not feeling a thing, you must be referring to tranquilizers and other related “downers”. Antidepressants do not make you apathetic. They regulate your brain chemistry.Allow me to be the judge of whether I am back to normal or not. I am off the pills for quite a while and I am completely symptom free. So please explain to me how all my symptoms went away without any medication other than the SSRIs, if my organs are still damaged and are the ones to have caused the whole thing. I have returned to my daily activities and former life, I do not take any pills whatsoever, but if it makes you happy, I can admit that I have ME or whatever and that I am still sick. This seems to be a one way road in all your posts. I wish you a very nice weekend.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 16, 2007
    • 01:28 PM
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  • Dear Lenna....wait 6 months? Then what? you have suffered even longer before being diagnosed. If you have ME/CFS you don't need to wait 6 months EVEN THOUGH THAT IS THE CDC RECOMMENDATION. The liver, pancreas and lungs are connected to depression.People don't just get depressed because they are ill. They get depressed because there is something awry in their bodies. Countless people have written me back on my personal e mail and have told me that in fact, they got an ME/CFS diagnosis after recieving my information. When it's determined that this is what you have, please consider NAET or Bioset therapy if it is available in Greece. It will help with all of your symptoms including depression. As far as the chemtrails....burying your head in the sand is detrimental to your health.If you don;t believe it, that's fine. Just take your omega-3's everyday to combat the aluminum that is being sprayed....which by the way causes many problems in the brain from short term memory loss to depression as well. be well and stay informed....mommy cat
    mommy cat 1654 Replies
    • November 16, 2007
    • 02:52 PM
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  • Dear Mommy Cat, Of course people do not get depressed because they are ill. People get depressed due to serotonin levels issues in their brains. Research says that this can be even genetic, and that would explain why some people get depressed easily and others don’t. If you look up gland viruses (what I have suffered from), you will see that depression is frequently associated with them, even with mono. As I have indicated many times before, I believe that there are many people out there suffering from ME. My doctors believe in it too. However, they don’t just assume that everybody with fatigue suffers from it. Telling everybody in this forum that they suffer from ME is irresponsible. There are countless conditions causing fatigue, from simple mineral deficiencies to cancer. What am I saying here is that this was my case, I waited for 6 months and now I am completely healthy. I took SSRIs only for a few months and I am not on them anymore. I am also not depressed. So, bottom line is that I have recovered completely, I do not take any pills whatsoever and I am not depressed. So, I would define this as being healthy. If I had ME, I would probably be the second person on a global level to get well (after you), without however, NAET or Bioset. That would make me a living miracle, I suppose. Statements such as “when it’s determined that this is what you have”, referring to ME, border a little bit on compulsive, when somebody tells you that they are healthy and back to normal.I mean, I know that I am not a native speaker, but I think that my English do not fail to communicate that. I wish you all the best and health, above all. P.S. I take the Omegas because they are good for the heart, the brain and the immune system.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 21, 2007
    • 01:22 PM
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  • I am a bit confused here. Can you actually explain to me how liver, lung and pancreas problems lead to depression? Easy QuestionIn the body, serotonin is synthesized from the amino acid tryptophan by a short metabolic pathway consisting of two enzymes: tryptophan hydroxylase (TPH) and amino acid decarboxylase (DDC).These aminoacids are manufactured where the nutrients are processed, transformed, and store. Pancreas and Liver do the enzymatic tasks. If you eat food with tryptophan, your body has to extract it and all that- then it has to send it up in the blood thru the brain barrier and once up in your brain, your body will transform it into serotoin.If your liver and pancreas are deficient, toxic, or infected, they won't be able to complete their tasks. In fact, there are scientific evidence that some people synthetized the tryptophan with 'anomalies' and their liver and pancreas instead create strange amino molecules that cause the wrong chemical reactions within the body- not just the brain.These days most people's chemestry is mutated- so when they eat tryptophan and other amino acids, the body simply repel them like they were infections. Yes, the immune system can interfere in the metabolic processes of amino acids and try to isolate them as if they were pathogens. When this happens people eat but the body don't use the nutrients.Bottom line is, your brain can only use the nutrients that it receives from the organs- if the organs are in bad shape, the brain is in bad shape. The brain barrier is very selective and it should block many chemicals to go up the brain.Unfortunately, the brain barrier often is confronted with pathogens because people get their tonsils out- and also with heavy toxins like thiimerosal, thank to vaccines.Amino Acids are Amazing...Sam-E alone gives a lot to talk about. It is manufactured by the healthy liver, and it has everything to do with moods and depression.Best,Frui.Having serotonin problems is not genetic- it is that you are exposed to the same triggers as your family members. Also, you share your parents DNA so if their DNA mutated, you receive that disadvantage - and exposed to the same triggers, your DNA will express the variation in celullar procotol as your parents express it (getting sick in similar ways). But saying that people have X or Y genetic problem is commonly an oversimplification. What I am getting at here is that it can be avoided, treated, and in many cases reverted completely and without the use of drugs.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • November 21, 2007
    • 05:10 PM
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  • Lenna, some posters see everything as black and others see white. Pick and choose what you want to believe and develop your own gray tones. Just keep advising all the new people to research all the options or suggest some possible diagnoses yourself. That way we can achieve balance on the board. What one person sees as zealotry, others see as passion. Obviously the moderators tolerate the posters who think all diseases develop because of one big conspiracy disease, and conversely, they tolerate the posters (myself included) who usually go straight toward medical management by physicians. The moderators must like the direction the board is maintaining. We have a saying in the U.S. "You are flogging a dead horse" which inelegantly means that whatever you do or say, it ain't gonna change. And you are not going to change the minds of the posters with whom you are aguing. I agree with you. But I've learned to stop the flogging.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • November 22, 2007
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  • The following message if only for those who were actually looking for it. If you are curious but unsure, just remember that ideas are tools: use them or lose them. :)Far-infrared (FIR) wave frequencies (wavelength of 5 to 15 microns) are the natural frequency of Human Beings.We receive and give FIR to everyone. We give our frequency to others and we receive other's frequencies. This is why when we sleep with a companion, we stay warmer than if we sleep alone. If the person who sleeps by your side gets up and leave, you feel feel it sooner or later. FIR controls water, just like our bodies control the water we drink. We are sacred water controllers...it is in the Bible! Our flesh is the flesh of ****s, as translated directly from Hebrew- our proteins and the minerals in our cells control water- we modify water and water turns into perfect geometrical shapes inside the body. The cell makes a special structural sequence and then it absorbs the water in a particular way that the cell is programmed to receive the water. My Peace I give you? anyone? remember ****s wound did not bleed but water came out of it at the Calvary? It was water, not blood! and people knew that He was the real *****t.We give and receive FIR- our life force, the life force from the Spirit, the Spirit that works on the Faces of Water. This is how we influence each other- this is how we become intolerant, this is how we make each other sick!!!!!This is how we give lasting love, and we boost each other :)- our spirit...our Far Infrared Wavelength that controls water...We are the ones sending the messages on water. It is our breath that shape forms in sand and dust- the Sand-drawings rituals of the Native American hold witness to it. Just check Cymatics.Silica and Aluminum can be use to turn a regular wave length into a Far infrared Wave Length. Chemtrails are loaded with Silica and Aluminum. Chemtrails are artificial FIR to control water! I bet the airplane engine (which is always loud) is the original wave length and by using the heavy metals it is used to turn it into Artificial Far Infrared. Chemtrails are an invisible artificial source of Far Infrared resonance in the air- it is the Bell or the Horn from our oppressors that terrifies us!!! not just that, Chemtrails are artificial FIR loaded with toxic content. Because it is FIR ,and we give and receive FIR, we give and receive that toxic stuff! We receive the bad Far Infrared Wavelengths from the air and as we receive that bad energy, we are receiving the infections, the mycoplasma, the dry blood, etc. Remember NAET? If you hold a vial that it is equivalent to Peanut, and you are allergic to peanut- the vial can make you sick. It is not real peanut, but the electromagnetic field of the real peanut charged the vial. Chemtrails are reversed NAET! We are given the electromagnetic fields of the actual poisons- it is like transference by the use of Aluminum and Silica, together with small portions of the actual poison. It is like using mirrors to reflect light. They amplify the poisons to hurt many- even if no actual particle or infection can be found on the sick person. It is 'radiation therapy'. So, the million dollar question:Why don't they kill us all quickly at once?I have the Answer:Because we are the only part of God that they can manipulate. Remember, God is not in the fire, or in the Sun :) but it is in us. Apparently one can 'structure' water and make it healthier just by giving a simple prayer to it. Our breath creates geometrical forms in water. Salt and Water have always being sacred, and also oil and perfume. They are made sacred by us. Not the dead or angels can make anything sacred or healing. The Hollywood clue:This the actual part of 'The Matrix' movie that nobody gets: After everything on Earth has been destroyed, the Machines (inhuman intelligence) still need humans to grow so they can 'power' the Earth!!!!!!!!!! Humans became the only source of energy- because we are the source of the energy...our Qi, Spirit, Life, Electromagnetic field, Energy...hence we are the masters, we stimulate nature- like the Native Americans could induced rain. Our bodies are the House of God on Earth. They don't try to kill us all at once, but they control us. a short reference:http://www.ionizers.org/alkalife4.html I know that we were supposed to get more snow and not so cool temperatures last week but the Chemtrails are coming to ensure drought and high energy billsRemember the good news:God did not use his hands, He used his words, and that was enough. We don't use brute force to command. We use our hands to administer deeds of love to each other and to present our offerings to God. We are not really animals. We are not primates and there is no real 'survival of the fittest'.There are remedies to chemtrail damage and to toxic exposure. Remember to detox, pray, drink clean water, and try NAET or Bioset to increase your tolerance and build up your own electromagnetic field to keep you insulated but not isolated. http://web.mac.com/len15/iWeb/healthyworld_media/Blog/7F4E8D5D-5888-4262-82FF-10AF5E918EB0.htmlxoxoMar.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • December 10, 2007
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  • http://www.abbaswatchman.com/Hurricane%20Katrina%20and%20Wilma.htm
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies
    • December 10, 2007
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  • Six significant effects or mechanisms of ELF radiation upon human health have been identified through initial research on this topic, including but not limited to: 1. human mental functioning, influence and control2. disruption of cellular metabolism 3. suppression of the immune system4. genetic modification and/or DNA effects5. influence upon free radical formation6. cyclotronic resonancehttp://www.carnicom.com/elf9.htm
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    • December 10, 2007
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  • Dear Fruity.. Thank you so much for sharing all of this information. People's pineal glands are becoming calcified with this dis-ease.The pineal gland is referred to as our "third eye" Without use of the pineal gland, we cannot even "comprehend" what others are telling us or we are unable to believe it.We also become very "disconnected" from God. I am considered a conspiracy theorist yet not one person can "disprove" anything I've written. People don't even believe that chemtrails exist when all they have to do is walk out their front door, open their eyes and look to the sky.Pretty basic yet many cannot even "believe" that it is happening. We are all blind little sheep following the herd.If anyone goes against the grain, they are chastised.I know, I'm one of them. Thank you for your love, compassion, support and guidance. I am proud to call you my friend...... Love, mommy cat:D
    mommy cat 1654 Replies
    • January 3, 2008
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  • Geez! Well that's a little scary now isn't it? Hmmm...makes me think though. I live about 7 miles from an international airport and Air National Guard base. I have chemtrails over my house virtually all of the time. Time to move underground?:eek:
    justme2008 5 Replies
    • January 3, 2008
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  • I wanted to bring this thread back to the front. Anyone who doers not know about the chemtrails.... please read this thread and follow the links I have posted. It is a real eye opener. best mommy cat
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  • mycoplasma and chemtrails http://www.rense.com/general3/chemill.htm read and learn... please. mommy cat
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  • why hasn't there been any mainstream media articles regarding chemtrails? You can see them in the sky above your homes, yet they do not exist? wow, what a trick!! anyone else know of this phenomenon? mommy cat
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  • Mommy cat, Houston area reporters did lots of studies and articles on them several years ago. ... must separate the chemtrails from the jet trails of heat exhaust hitting cold air.
    Abbydoodle 138 Replies Flag this Response
  • Oh by the way, It was interesting in the 60's watching Air Force practice spraying stuff in South Texas. Wonder what it was. Who it affected? Like the X Files. Sort of like the black op helicopters that flew around our towns in the 70s that they would deny. Yet we all saw them.
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  • abbydoodle... there is a BIG difference between contrails and chemtrails yes, the helicopters...mycoplasma, bioweapons, Morgellon's, Lyme, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia. seems there is alot of denial going on mommy cat
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