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Cervical Cancer Vaccine Is NOT Vaccine For Cancer, It Is A Risky HPV vaccine-3 dead.

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  • Posted By: EmilyMcN
  • June 24, 2007
  • 07:49 AM

With all our discussions on Vaccines and CFS/ME, those who ACCEPT this illness (like myself and my 3 other best friends....you know who you are), have all become wiser in relation to the risks involved with vaccines. I thought I had become more wise, but now I'm not so sure....I had made an appointment to recieve the first of 3 doses of the relatively new "Cervical Cancer" Vaccine (Gardasil) next week. But then I thought "Wait a minute....why am I continuing to Vaccinate myself after everything that has happened lately...and with the knowledge that I have been diagnosed with ME in May 2007? "

This is what I have found....

Did anyone else notice ignoring the risks involved in the Cervical Cancer Vaccine? I know this happens all the time, but this really takes the cake!
To start with, this is a vaccine that protects against the HPV virus, NOT cervical cancer. Now, the government are trying to make it mandatory that all twelve year old girls be vaccinated.

How about this for a fright.....

Quote: "....But other more serious side effects reported include paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures. Also, a significantly large population are seemingly already suffering multiple excruciating health conditions likened to that of CFS (ME), FMS, and other debilitating ailments..." Full article below......

Judicial Watch Uncovers Three Deaths Relating to HPV Vaccine
Event Reports Obtained from FDA Detail 1,637 Adverse Reactions to Gardasil

(Washington, DC) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released documents obtained from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, detailing 1,637 reports of adverse reactions to the vaccination for human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil. Three deaths were related to the vaccine. One physician’s assistant reported that a female patient “died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine.” Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.
As of May 11, 2007, the 1,637 adverse vaccination reactions reported to the FDA via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) included 371 serious reactions. Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormities.
Side effects published by Merck & Co. warn the public about potential pain, fever, nausea, dizziness and itching after receiving the vaccine. Indeed, 77% of the adverse reactions reported are typical side effects to vaccinations. But other more serious side effects reported include paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures.Also, a significantly large populations are already suffering multiple excruciating health conditions likened to CFS (ME), FMS, and other debilitating ailments.
“The FDA adverse event reports on the HPV vaccine read like a catalog of horrors,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Any state or local government now beset by Merck’s lobbying campaigns to mandate this HPV vaccine for young girls ought to take a look at these adverse health reports. It looks as if an unproven vaccine with dangerous side effects is being pushed as a miracle drug.”

There is no site or reference that fails to include CFS/ME and HPV as linked somewhere along the trail...

In summary....What the heck are we doing? We know the risks involved, so why is the Government still enforcing it.... IMMUNISATION....IMMUNISATION....IMMUNISATION...NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!! I dont think I will be Vaccinating my children. I don't think I will be getting this Vaccine....

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  • In this day and age, you show me a person who does not have 1 symptom of CFS/ME and that person will be the one who has never recieved a vaccine. Many of my friends and family members all have many symptoms of CFS but it is not enough to keep them down or consider themselves very ill. I am in healthcare and have recieved countless vaccines over the past 20 years. I now have CFS/ME. There were no studies done prior to the government mandating vaccines. Now we are paying the price. The long term effects are obvious. CFS. It is viral, with symptoms similar to AIDS and Autism. The parents of the Autistic children believe it was the metal Thimerisol(mercury based) that harmed their children. Possible. It is also possible that by injecting humans with multiple viruses over a life time, creates inner chaos for we are not designed in this fashion.I think Ralph said it best when he stated that as a species, we have lived for millions of years without vaccines. We are now seeing the reprocussions of what long term vaccine use does to humans.MC
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • Interesting and scary. You're probably right about them playing up the "cervical cancer" bit, when it's really to help prevent infection of HPV. I would have to assume there are other ways to get cervical cancer.. not just through HPV. I'm curious why moms would get vaccinated while pregnant? :confused: Is it really necessary?
    sylvie 31 Replies Flag this Response
  • Yes, you are right, scary. There’s a long history of vaccines that have come with a lot of hype that have not lived up to their reputation. There have been a lot of mistakes made in the past, such as the pushing of Depo Provera on certain populations of girls and young women. Depo Provera was approved by Health Canada in 1997 as an injectable form of birth control. In 2004 it was stated that the drug had serious side effects after women reported incessant bleeding, loss in bone density, severe weight gain and depression, among other effects. In addition we have seen the Polio Vaccine infected by SV40, Diptheria, MMR, Influenza and Tetanus vaccines leading to complications including the massive publications on it's link with CFS/ME among countless other complaints and complications. In this regard, we can indentify how many conditions, like Chronic Fatigue and maybe some cancers occur in a significantly larger ratio in females than in males. This is probably due to the fact that some immunisations are gender specific. Also, the Government is in such a flurry to "cure" the world, they pump out vaccines, left, right and centre, without giving too much thought into adverse effects and the possibility of procarious epidemics, and their back up plan is....? And to make it worse...they want to make it mandatory? It disgusts me to learn that after every complication that has arisen from vaccines in the past, the government still break the rules and are still pushing to mandate such "dangerous" vaccines. With all this taken into account, do you think that the vaccines are really really necessary? Don't you think the Government would have learnt the first time?? I suppose not.
    EmilyMcN 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • Sylvie, also in relation to your query regarding the necessity of this vaccine for pregnant women, I have pondered that myself. I believe it's highly unneccesary, not to mention too risky. Further research has enlightened me to the fact that women can still breastfeed when the have been immunised with HPV vaccine....theres much more to it :confused: I have found that males should recieve this vaccine also. The Government want to make it mandatory for males too, so clearly there must be more to it than just the "cervical vaccine" bit....ofcourse. I have considered the following.... The HPV vaccine is not recommended for use in pregnancy. The vaccine has been associated with adverse outcomes of pregnancy or adverse events to the developing feotus. Any exposure to this vaccine in pregnancy should be reported. It is also stated that women who fall pregnant during the course of the vaccine dosages should WAIT until they have their baby for prevention measures....now why is that? There is very limited informtion on the link of HPV vaccine and pregnancy, obviously being so "new"....the Government want to see more evidence....Quite frankly...enough is enough....but thats just my opinion.
    EmilyMcN 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • the vaccine is for hpv - a virus LINKED to causing cervical cancer. thus by reducing the amount of people affected with the virus you reduce the amount of people who then can get cervical cancer due to the hpv. im not by no means for or against this vaccine or any for that matter. - just thought id add my input.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • I think the thing that worries me is the number of 'wonder' drugs and cures that have appeared without being tested properly. A lot of these have had disastrous side effects. This is not a new problem and if you want an example look at Thalidomide (which is making a comeback, incidentally). I think the pressure is on the governments to reduce disease levels and the pharmaceutical companies are then pressurised into manufacturing drugs without proper testing. And yes of course money comes into it. The governments' for for the cheapest fix and the drug companies' for their profit margins. I don't go along with the fact that we lived for millions of years without vaccines. If you think all was rosy then, just consider the number of plagues there have been in history. And who knows, maybe the dinosaurs wouldn't have become extinct if there had been a vaccine around! Although I think vaccines have there place, mass vaccination is another matter. There are human rights issues over this and in this respect it should be left to the individual to decide. That said, a lot of individuals are simply unable to judge the risks/ benefits and by not forcing a vaccination programme, the government might not be protecting those individuals. A moral dilemma indeed! As for the Cervical Cancer Vaccine, then it seems that this is a little different to many of the others. HPV infection is strongly correlated with cervical cancer (no doubt about that). However, lots of people get HPV infections that clear up and which are never going to develop into cervical cancer. Consequently, HPV is a 'risk factor' and not a cause (as indeed is smoking, diet and a compromised immune system). So will a vaccine make any difference? Good question!
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • I am WELL aware that HPV is LINKED to causing Cervical Cancer, I have researched this condition and have compared it to the actual Vaccine... I conclude that the risks far outweigh the benefits....3 people dead already? And the so called "Catalogue of Horrors?" Under-researched! In talking about LINKS, have you considered the LINKS regarding pretty much all vaccines and their complications? Take the small pox vaccine, for example. The side effects were horrendous, and there had been no significant decline in incidences or when Hep B and DTP have significant, almost neverending, reference to "AUTISM" Could you ignore it....So what was the use for it? A Program on "60 Minutes" asks the inevitable question, "whats more dangerous, the conditions or the vaccines?" Lets not just look as short term here (such as fevers, rashs etc) how bout what happens 10 years down the track?
    EmilyMcN 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • I am WELL aware that HPV is LINKED to causing Cervical Cancer, I have researched this condition and have compared it to the actual Vaccine... I conclude that the risks far outweigh the benefits....3 people dead already? And the so called "Catalogue of Horrors?" Under-researched! In talking about LINKS, have you considered the LINKS regarding pretty much all vaccines and their complications? Take the small pox vaccine, for example. The side effects were horrendous, and there had been no significant decline in incidences or when Hep B and DTP have significant, almost neverending, reference to "AUTISM" Could you ignore it....So what was the use for it? A Program on "60 Minutes" asks the inevitable question, "whats more dangerous, the conditions or the vaccines?" Lets not just look as short term here (such as fevers, rashs etc) how bout what happens 10 years down the track?
    EmilyMcN 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • EmilyMcN, smallpox has been eradicated so I don't know how you can say there has been no decline in the numbers of those infected. The number of deaths from this disease was estimated at anything up the half a billion last century. You chose a bad example there. I said that HPV was correlated with cervical cancer not linked. Correlated means that some of those diagnosed with cervical cancer have tested positive for certain forms of HPV. This is different to being linked which suggests it is a cause (in my interpretation anyway). I think you are right to question what happens 10 years down the line in this case especially. Not least that is because how long it would take for benefits (if any) to show for a HPV vaccine. My understanding is that it is not known how long the vaccine would remain effective also (so you might need a few more jabs for it along the way). You seem to think that I am completely pro-vaccine which I am not. I have never had a flu' jab and nor do I ever intend to have one. Like yourself, I balance risk and benefits. Sometimes one outweighs the other and this is the basis on which I make my decision.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • Small pox, yes bad example for the present, but for a few years after introduction of the vaccine, stats had not changed dramatically. Did you notice that I purposely written HAD and not HAS or HAVE? PAST TENSE...My main point for including that particular example is that so many were becoming ill and now, being "down the track" (whilst it is now erradicated) who's to say that other complications aren't the result of this vaccine? You also say....(so you might need a few more jabs for it along the way).....er, what for?....haven't vaccines already done enough damage?
    EmilyMcN 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • EmilyMcN, the smallpox vaccine was the first one - produced by Jenner. In the early days, it was impossible to vaccinate many people so it is obvious that the devastating stats relating to smallpox deaths would not be changed quickly. Now this disease is no longer with us, it is easy to forget how widespread and devastating it was. The vaccine had its dangers (it was a particularly nasty one), but I don't see how you can blame that for the current trend of increasing 'complications'. And I don't think the disease just 'disappeared'. There are lots of people around today that never received smallpox vaccinations (me included), yet the incidence of autoimmune diseases and CFS seems to continue to rise. Diptheria and polio were other devastating diseases that have been kept largely under control and vaccination will have played its part in that also. When I said you might need a few jabs along the way, I meant that the HPV vaccine has an 'unknown' immunity duration (if indeed it has any). So every three, five or whatever years you might need to start all over again. It sounds to me like you would be foolish to start anyway if you are suffering from CFS and have a likely compromised immune system. As for vaccines causing enough damage, who knows? There is no quantitative evidence that they haven't. But equally there is no quantitative evidence that they have. The arguments against them as far as I can see are anecdotal. However, the beneficial effects of vaccines have been quantified (as in the cases of smallpox, diptheria, etc.). Unless someone can go better and provide some convincing evidence rather than just raising questions, then the detrimental effects (if any) will never be taken seriously. And as I have said elsewhere, I am not arguing the case either for or against vaccination.
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  • These have been interesting posts to read.I was diagnosed with CFS 11 years ago following contraction of the epstein barr and cytomegla viruses (not sure how to spell the latter). Initially i releapsed very frequently (every month) however eventually my replapses spread and now they only occur a year or more apart. I had no knowledge of the speculation linking CFS to vaccinations such as the cervical cancer vaccine that is now available free to under 27's in australia and subsequently had my first dose of the vaccination one and a half weeks ago.Three days ago i was diagnosed with the auto immune disease Alopecia Areata (patchy baldness). Over a period of two days i suddenly lost a 50c piece sized patch of hair from the top of my head. This obviously frightened the life out of me. I am now wondering whether the alopecia was brought on by the cervical cancer vaccination. It seems to be almost too much of a coincidence in that the two events happened only one weeks apart from each other. Alopecia is an immunological disease, and i would guess that when you have the vaccine your immune system has to work hard to develop antibodies. I noticed someone else posting here suggesting that if you have CFS then having the vaccintions might just be too much of an overload on the immune system. Maybe that is what has happened to me and maybe the combination of CFS and then the vaccine proved too much for my immune system to handle triggering the onset of alopecia....?Has anyone else experienced anything similar?Jana
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies
    • September 22, 2007
    • 01:54 AM
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  • Why take the risk on a vaccine which has not been tested over time. Very unsure about all these vaccines. See the cry shame web site re: parents of autistic children taking the British Medical Association to court.
    Anonymous 42,789 Replies Flag this Response
  • My daughter is one that had the vaccine and is now ill. I don't know where to turn! No one, including her five doctors, know how to help her. She is sick all the time and is not getting any better. I have no clue what to do to help her.
    happeemommee 5 Replies Flag this Response
  • Ok- about this ENTIRE concept of vaccines...let me map it out for all of us. The GOVERNMENT WANTS us to be sicker. :eek: Yes. Why wouldn't they? Let me explain. This country is run by the fact that all companies that distribute anything that goes into our bodies goes through the FDA. The FDA and major insurance companies such as BCBS, and major pharmaceutical drug companies like Phizer, work together as a team. They make sure that none of the 3 get "thrown under the bus". Our beloved politicians take millions and millions of dollars a year to shut the (blank) up about what they know and I am about to explain. The FDA approves just about anything that comes through their doors today. They approve things like Doritos (one of MILLIONS of examples) that actually mute and kill our taste buds, leaving us looking for something with more chemical additives so that we can TASTE because the ability to enjoy and taste natural flavors has been destroyed by the massive amounts of chemicals we are dumping in our mouths. These things also have KNOWN side effects and ADDICTIVE additives that make us drawn to these chemical tastes like its heroin. These chemicals also stimulate the part of the brain that makes us think we are HUNGRY and also contains chemicals that ARE PROVEN to cause depression. We crave more and more of the junk, and then all natural food is totally unappealing and flavorless. GOOD! That was their goal. Now they can let their friends the pharmacuetical company manufactor drugs that can help us to lose the weight we gained because we are physically addicted to our food. Lets get on an addicting weight loss drug that will kill me faster instead, speeding up my heart rate and allowing my body to FORGET how to metabolise on its own. Oh good, now my body needs this drug to lose the weight that was caused by the food I'm now addicted to. AND... i'm still depressed from the food. GOOD! Now- we're going to put you on anti-depressants. We will mass produce them and give them to anyone who has a crappy day. Its ok that they weaken your body's immune system, mess with your hormone levels so that it takes years to ever regulate them again, and takes away ALL my pain that I've had to deal with from being fat from the food they gave me tainted with "flavored chemicals"-DRUGS. WELL... now that i've got this immune system thats pretty lazy, i keep getting sick and going to the doc for other things than the "psychological". I'm going for antibiotics, vaccinations, steroids, etc. GOOD! NOW our friends the insurance companies are making THEIR money. YAY! Its ok that the antibiotics are prescribed for the common cold- building immunity, destroying our digestive system and literally "telling" our immune system that it can take a few days off from defending our bodys- the antibiotics got that covered. OH GOOD! Now when this same bacteria or virus enters my body I can go BACK to doc for a STRONGER antibiotic because my body doesn't know how to protect itself against it. I'm so excited. Now... you might be starting to do one of 2 things- thinking "shes nuts" or getting kinda ticked off. WELL... if you're ticked off- DON'T WORRY! They KNOW we are never going to do anything about it. See, they made sure that if they were going to do this and make BILLIONS of dollars a year (ex: look and see if the stock prices on health insurance companies and pharmies companies went up or down in this "crisis"), that they did NOT need us to riot in the streets about it. See, we used to get angry about injustice and DO things about it- that SCARED the government. NOW they just got us all pumped up on drugs and tainted food that we're too tired, depressed, or too dang big to get out of our houses and riot in the streets about it. GOOD! SChEW! Now they can relax in their million dollar homes with their live in all oraganic chefs (wait, you didn't think THEY ate what they give us did you?!?!) sitting SLIM and happy and motivated to go conquer another day. Its pretty easy when everyone else feels to crappy to challenge you. Ah... what a great story. If only we could afford to believe it. See, if you know all of this info and you are too poor to buy the all organic foods- its ok! You still have to eat the manuafactored crap thats full of horrible things and be miserable, By the way, average America, hope you feel GOOD enough to go out and get that great career you've always dreamed of. Don't know why you wouldn't? We all act like someone is poisoning us and causing laziness and depression.Thats crazy talk. Now get out there, be full of energy and life, make some moey and go buy that organic food that won't kill you! Well, I did just take my antibiotics and eat my frozen pizza.You know I was really depressed when I got laid off, so I took some anti-depressants. I ended up getting pretty sick after that so I've pretty much just been riding the couch. So no, I don't really feel like it today. Ask me again tomorrow.
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