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  • Posted By: amy_2307
  • January 14, 2008
  • 10:59 AM

I have had upper right abdominal pain now for the last 4 weeks which is gradually getting worse. It is localised and is in the area just under my ribcage where my gallbladder is. GP originally thought Cholecystitis (inflamed gallbladder) but an ultrasound has determined this isn't the case. This pain is constant and is not worse after eating.
Now the past couple of days I am also getting a pain in my right shoulder blade. This isn't there all the time but when I sneeze my whole upper body is in an immense amount of pain, it causes me to cry in pain and lasts for about 20 minutes. The pain in my shoulder then dyes down and flares up when I sneeze or when i do anything with my right arm.
Please help, I haven't a clue!! xXx:)

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  • Don't believe what those test show. I had every gall bladder test done from november 2001 to 2004. They told me that my gallbladder was fine. What they don't tell you is most of your gall stones are cholesterol stones, which don't show up on Ultrasound test or CT scans. I suggest you do a liver or gallblader flush. Just google it or go the thecurezone.com and search gallbladder flush. I wish I would have known about it years ago. I know I would still have my gallbladder if I did. I almost died, because of my gall stones. I had one get stuck in my common bile duct, which i had to stay in the hospital for a week, because of the infection. I did the flush with epson salt, lemmon & olive oil, and follow the directions. I did do a shorter version of it. I just ate a nonfat breakfast on the day I did it & also for lunch. I didn't eat dinner. Then i did the epson salt like it said to relax the bile ducts and clean out my colon. Epson salt is very important, because it relaxes your bile ducts and cleans out you inners. I do one tablespoon of epson salt with full cup of warm water. Then i do it again 1 hour later. On the 3rd hour I'd mix about 8 ounces of olive oil slightly heated up with about 4 ounces of lemon juice. I know it sounds nasty, but it sure is worth it when you see the stones come out. Oh! you go right to bed after drinking this stuff and lay on your right side pulling up your knee up to your chest as far as you can for at least a half hour don't move. Then you can sleep anyway you want. The next morning after you eat your first bowel movement will have all kinds of little or big cholestoral stones in the water floating on top of the water. Sometimes the bowel movements throught the day have them in it. I've did this several time with great success. I recently found out i have several food allergies, which were causing my insides to swell up which was the main cause for my gall stones. I've read the the main reason for Gallbladder problems was due to food allergies or intolerances. I would suggest you get tested for that. Don't go to a allergy doctor and let them just do that stick pin test, because it's not accurate for food allergies of the intestines. I had the stick pin test and it was negative for everything. I was at my wits end until i found this great Osteopathinc Doctor who ordered food allergy testing from blood test. Good luck with this. acdharrison I have had upper right abdominal pain now for the last 4 weeks which is gradually getting worse. It is localised and is in the area just under my ribcage where my gallbladder is. GP originally thought Cholecystitis (inflamed gallbladder) but an ultrasound has determined this isn't the case. This pain is constant and is not worse after eating.Now the past couple of days I am also getting a pain in my right shoulder blade. This isn't there all the time but when I sneeze my whole upper body is in an immense amount of pain, it causes me to cry in pain and lasts for about 20 minutes. The pain in my shoulder then dyes down and flares up when I sneeze or when i do anything with my right arm.Please help, I haven't a clue!! xXx:)
    acdharrison 5 Replies
    • January 15, 2008
    • 05:22 AM
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  • Join lymenet. I doubt this very much, i have no other symptoms and no fever!
    amy_2307 2 Replies
    • January 15, 2008
    • 08:52 AM
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  • YOU JUST KEEP TELLING YOUSELF THAT, AND YOU'LL HAVE YOUR GALLBADDER OUT BEFORE LONG. I HAD THE SAME TYPE OF PAINS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. GALLBLADDER PAIN CAN TRAVEL ALL AROUND TO YOUR BACK OR SHOLDER & EVEN MAKE SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE HAVING A HEART ATTACK. I DIDN'T HAVE A FEVER WHEN MY GALL BLADDER WAS ACTING UP. I ONLY HAD A FEVER WHEN THE GALL STONE GOT STUCK IN MY BILE DUCK. YOU WON'T HAVE A FEVER FROM JUST GALL BLADDER STONE UNLESS THEY TRAVEL DOWN AND BLOCK THE BILE DUCT. THERES NOT TO MUCH IT WOULD BE ON THE SIDE, UNLESS ITS YOU COLON OR LUNGS OR SOME KIND OF MUSCLE PROBLEM. MY GALL BLADDER PAIN STARTED YEARS IN ADVANCE AS A NUMB DULL PAIN ON MY RIGHT SIDE AT THE BOTTOM OF MY RIBS. GOOD LUCK I doubt this very much, i have no other symptoms and no fever!
    acdharrison 5 Replies
    • January 16, 2008
    • 05:42 AM
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  • Look up cholangitis and common bile duct obstruction. About 15% of people with gallstones will develop stones in the common bile duct, the small tube that carries bile from the gallbladder to the intestine. Symptoms are usually not present unless obstruction of the common bile duct occurs. Even after the gallbladder is removed, a stone may remain in or develop in the common bile duct causing pain or jaundice.Complete, persistent obstruction of the common bile duct can cause cholangitis, a life threatening infection of the biliary tree, which is a medical emergency. An obstruction of the common bile duct can also lead to an obstruction of the pancreatic duct, which may cause pancreatitis.Symptoms Abdominal pain in the upper right quadrant or the middle of the upper abdomenMay radiate to the right shoulderMay be sharp or cramping or dullMay be recurrentMay radiate to the backMade worse by eating fatty or greasy foodsOccurs within minutes following mealsNauseaVomitingFeverJaundiceLoss of appetiteYOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EVERY SYMPTOM! Tests that show the location of stones in the bile duct include the following:ERCP (endoscopic retrograde cholangiography)MRCP (magnetic resonance cholangiopancreatography)Abdominal CT scanAbdominal ultrasoundPercutaneous transhepatic cholangiogram (PTCA)I think at least you need to have a CT of the abdomen. Do you have any jaundice or clay colored poop? This sounds interesting. SOD (sphincter of ODDI disease) is a disorder involving the bile duct or pancreas causing a burning pain or cramping in the epigastric (upper stomach) area that can radiate (spread) to the back or under the right shoulder blade. This discomfort is thought to be caused by tightening of the Sphincter of Oddi, which is the muscle opening that controls the flow of bile and juices from the pancreas (enzymes) into the small intestine. It can also be caused by contractions of the common bile duct (the duct that allows bile from the liver into the small intestine). I think you need to go to a G.I. doc soon.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • January 16, 2008
    • 11:43 AM
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  • Thanks for your info. I now have lower back pain as well, like period pains, could this also be associated with it. I have booked a week off work soon so will definatly be doing a gallbladder flush then:)
    amy_2307 2 Replies
    • January 25, 2008
    • 03:25 PM
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  • Thanks for your info. I now have lower back pain as well, like period pains, could this also be associated with it. I have booked a week off work soon so will definatly be doing a gallbladder flush then:)Hey AmyRead your story and some of it sounds familier!! I have a chronic pain similar to the one you have described, and my abdominal CT showed nothing just like your ultrasound.I agree with the Gall Bladder idea.........
    Adam2953 28 Replies
    • January 25, 2008
    • 03:38 PM
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  • Hey everybody!Definitely sounds like gallbladder pain to me! I had the same pain for a long time before having my gallbladder removed. Fortunately my stones did show up on ultrasound but for my mom and my sister their problems were caused by more of a sandy type material that did not show up on ultrasound and thus it took much longer for their diagnosis. If left untreated you could develop problems with pancreatitis or common bile duct (as mentioned by someone else on here) and from others I have known, you do not want to deal with these complications!! Be assertive with your docs and if you don't get them to take you seriously then go to a different one that will! Good Luck
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 26, 2008
    • 03:36 AM
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  • Have them check your gall bladder again. I had severe right shoulder pains and upper abdominal pain like someone was stabbing me with a knife and what they found was a stone blocking the opening. They removed my gall badder laprosopically. Then again, maybe right should pain is a common "rebound" for any problem in your upper abdomen.All I know is nothing kills the pain when you have something wrong with your gall bladder other than morphine or demerol.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 27, 2008
    • 05:27 PM
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