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Breast pain and horrible armpit odor. It smells rancid & sour.

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • October 21, 2007
  • 02:51 PM

For the last 4 or 5 years I have had breast pain and tenderness and lumps. I have about 20 or more lumps in each breast. I am only 22. I have also had a Rancid sour smell that comes from my armpits. I am a very clean person. I have tried perscription deoderants, changed my soap products and detergents. But I cant figure it out. The sour smell is always there. It smells like a sour chemical. A doctor told me once that I may have fibrosis of the chest because of my breast pains and lumps of the breast. But there is really nothing they can do for this fibrosis. But my breast are so painful that I cant even check for new lumps. I want this to be over I dont want to smell or be in pain anymore. Oh and my armpits are tender too. Help Me please.

Thank you to anyone that can help.

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  • You need a mammo and a new doctor.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • October 22, 2007
    • 06:58 AM
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  • BromhidrosisBromhidrosis is also known as osmidrosis and bromidrosis. The common name for this condition is body odour or BO. What is bromhidrosis?Bromhidrosis is a condition of abnormal or offensive body odour, to a large extent determined by apocrine gland secretion, although other sources may play a role. Sudoriferous (sweat) glands are divided into two types: apocrine and eccrine. Eccrine glands Found over the entire body and produce a dilute salt solution in response to increased body temperature.Eccrine sweat is normally odourless but can start to smell if bacteria get a chance to break down the stale sweat. It can also assume an offensive odour after ingestion of various substances, including foods (e.g. garlic, curry), alcohol, or certain medications.Apocrine glands Found in limited areas, most notably the underarms, breasts and groin region and produce a thick secretion that contains pheromones (“personal scent”).Apocrine sweat is odourless when it first appears on the skin but within an hour bacteria that normally live on the skin break down the sweat to produce an offensive body odour.Body odour is worse if there are more bacteria present or the level of apocrine sweat production is high.Apocrine bromhidrosis is the most common type of bromhidrosis and results from the bacterial breakdown of apocrine sweat, essentially all within the armpit area. Fatty acids and ammonia are the major products of bacterial breakdown and the odour has been described as pungent, rancid, musty or “sour and sweet”. Who gets bromhidrosis and what is the cause?Although both types of bromhidrosis may occur in people of all races, sex and age, some differences do exist between the two types. Apocrine bromhidrosis Believed to be more common in dark-skinned ethnic groups (individuals of African ancestry appear to have the largest and most active apocrine glands)Possibly associated with a positive family history in Asian peopleOnly occurs after puberty, as the apocrine glands are not active until puberty is reachedMore common in men than women, which may be a reflection of greater apocrine gland activity in men than in womenSkin usually appears normal except when bromhidrosis is associated with concomitant skin condition such as erythrasmaCorynebacterium species are the most common bacteria found in the armpit and have been shown to produce the offensively smelling fatty acids.Eccrine bromhidrosis Occurs in all racesMay be rarely caused by metabolic disorders, e.g. amino acid disturbances (trimethylaminuria ), sweaty feet syndrome, odour of cat syndromePossibly caused by ingestion of certain foods or medicationsBromhidrosis caused by bacterial degradation of the skin protein keratin may be associated with maceration and a thick mat of moist keratin present on the skinThe role of excessive eccrine secretion (hyperhidrosis) in causing bromhidrosis is unclear. It may promote the spread of apocrine sweat and cause further bacterial overgrowth and decomposition, or it may improve the symptoms of bromhidrosis by flushing away the more smelly apocrine sweat.How is the diagnosis made?The clinician's perception of smell is the only tool needed to diagnose bromhidrosis. Taking a medical history may reveal diseases or conditions that contribute to the occurrence of bromhidrosis e.g. obesity, diabetes mellitus, and intertrigo. One distinction the clinician must be aware of is the difference between the true bromhidrosis patient and the bromhidrosiphobic individual. Bromhidrosiphobic patients have a morbid dread of bodily odours and their sensory delusions can be an early warning sign of schizophrenia. What is the treatment for bromhidrosis?The two main factors to consider when treating bromhidrosis are to: Keep the number of naturally occurring skin bacteria to a minimumKeep skin in the area, namely the armpit in apocrine bromhidrosis, as dry as possibleImproved hygiene and topical therapy are the main treatment options for mild cases of bromhidrosis and may include the following. Washing the underarm at least twice daily with germicidal soapRegular shaving of underarm hair to prevent accumulation of bacteria and sweat on hair shaftsPrompt removal of sweaty clothingUse of topical deodorantsTreatment of coexisting skin conditions such as intertrigo, erythrasma and trichomycosis axillarisElectrolysis to remove hair shaft and follicleIf hyperhidrosis is a contributing factor, this needs to be treated first, usually with the use of antiperspirants. The treatments described above do not offer a cure for bromhidrosis and results can often be short lived and incomplete. A visit to a specialist physician may provide more permanent treatment options, and include: removal of apocrine sweat glands by superficial liposuctionremoval of apocrine sweat glands by surgical excisionIf hyperhidrosis is a contributing factor, this needs to be treated first, usually with the use of antiperspirants. If this fails and the hyperhidrosis is a problem in its own right, then the following options may be considered: anticholinergic or beta-blocking drugsiontophoresisbotulinum toxin injectionchemical or surgical sympathectomyThese treatments may not help the bromhidrosis, however, as this condition is often independent of hyperhidrosis and, as mentioned above, may in some cases actually be helped by associated hyperhidrosis. For further details on these options see hyperhidrosis: treatment available from a specialist. Related informationReferences:Book: Textbook of Dermatology. Ed Rook A, Wilkinson DS, Ebling FJB, Champion RH, Burton JL. Seventh edition. Blackwell Scientific Publications.On DermNet NZ:HyperhidrosisAntiperspirantsOther websites:Bromhidrosis – emedicine dermatology, the online textbookBooks about skin diseases:See the DermNet NZ bookstore Author: Vanessa Ngan, staff writer
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • October 23, 2007
    • 10:51 AM
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  • Do you mean fibrocystic breasts? Have you had a mammogram? Get one soon.I think fibrosis of the chest means it's in the lungs. You don't have any breathing problems, do you? I thought the Botox and liposuction suggestions were interesting.
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • October 23, 2007
    • 10:55 AM
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  • Hi unregistered,I noticed this post in 2007, so you probably have had this problem resolved by now. But to all those wondering about this problem, it could be that you are allergic to your clothes. I had this problem and I found out everytime I wear polyester or something with polyester in it , I have a that horrible armpit odor. (smells like cat pee). I only wear cotton now and once in awhile I get that smell, it can also be caused by dehydration. Hope this helps someone. MwaFor the last 4 or 5 years I have had breast pain and tenderness and lumps. I have about 20 or more lumps in each breast. I am only 22. I have also had a Rancid sour smell that comes from my armpits. I am a very clean person. I have tried perscription deoderants, changed my soap products and detergents. But I cant figure it out. The sour smell is always there. It smells like a sour chemical. A doctor told me once that I may have fibrosis of the chest because of my breast pains and lumps of the breast. But there is really nothing they can do for this fibrosis. But my breast are so painful that I cant even check for new lumps. I want this to be over I dont want to smell or be in pain anymore. Oh and my armpits are tender too. Help Me please.Thank you to anyone that can help.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 28, 2009
    • 05:03 PM
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  • goooooooooooogle macrobiotics!!read how macrobiotics cured cancerMACROBIOTICS is the only alternativeeat mostly whole cooked grains. then vegetables, then legumes, and a lot of pickles... no sugar, no refined food, no yeast products (bread), and only unrefined seasalt.consume fruits and fruits-derived products only in very small quantities once a week (tomatoes, eggplants and potatoes are considered fruits while strawberry and watermelon are vegetables)it worked for me.. the macrobiotics pyramid + the macrobiotics way: it is about HOW u eat also.chew 50 timesstop when u feel fulletcpleeeeeeeease read about it.. modern medicine is always offering only half solutions, never REAL solutions.modern medicine had no answer for my kidney pain because it is still in its early stages.macrobiotics was my only cure.
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  • For the last 4 or 5 years I have had breast pain and tenderness and lumps. I have about 20 or more lumps in each breast. I am only 22. I have also had a Rancid sour smell that comes from my armpits. I am a very clean person. I have tried perscription deoderants, changed my soap products and detergents. But I cant figure it out. The sour smell is always there. It smells like a sour chemical. A doctor told me once that I may have fibrosis of the chest because of my breast pains and lumps of the breast. But there is really nothing they can do for this fibrosis. But my breast are so painful that I cant even check for new lumps. I want this to be over I dont want to smell or be in pain anymore. Oh and my armpits are tender too. Help Me please.Thank you to anyone that can help.google macrobiotics.modern medicine never has a solution. it only offers half solutions.
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  • Interesting enough, I have had underarm odor that is very different from perspiration odor and in one arm only. The long and short of it is that I recently was operated on for breast cancer and that very day the odor went. Quickly get a mammogram.
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  • At times I get something going bichemically wrong which then produce offessive underarm odour (for the past year or two my issue has gotten much better so its not happening so much anymore). What I find great to keep handy which removes the odour, which in my case is very hard to get rid of (one needs to actually SCRUB with A BRUSH and soap under my arm to get rid of it but an hr later it can be back), is to use medical alcohol swaps eg medi swabs and swab under my arm. (this instantly kills that smell completely for a while...no need for me to scrub then ..hence i think bacteria must play a part in my issue too)...... I used to have a friend who used to get bad breast pain and fibroids in her breasts. She was on duretics to help that which in her case did help the pain some.
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