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bleeding out of every orifice! need help ASAP

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  • Posted By: AmICrazy?
  • February 8, 2008
  • 04:46 AM

im really tired so i'll cut to the chase

about a week ago i woke up, and my sheets were SOAKED in blood. so i went to the washroom.. i thought i was seeing things. so i look in the mirror and to my horror i am covered in blood, i was REALLY freaked

i ran back into the bedroom and looked at my sheets, turns out they were covered in blood. so i went back into the washroom to wash the blood off my face, as i lifted my face from my hands filled with water i saw my nose, eyes, ears, and weirdest of all my FINGER NAILS were draining blood.

i went to the hospital looking like i got shot a few times, they gave me 3 units of O negative (sorry if i didnt put the blood type into a proper term EX: O-) (also im sorry if thats not the right term i think its blood transfusion im sorry im REALLY tired) i was discharged 2 days ago they ran so many tests i dont even remember

they didn't find anything. nothing at all

symptoms list:

pale white skin
bleeding from EVERY orifice
body aches
dry skin
coughing blood
fatigue
black spots all over my hands, feet and legs


my doctor called and told me i will be going into an ICU to have tests ect
so i might be in the ICU tomorrow or the day after so i may not reply for that time.

thanks in advance for any help


- John

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  • Hi John,Sorry you are having all the bleeding and pain. You didn't mention your age. I hope you are doing okay as I write this. Maybe you are in the ICU. Hopefully not. Hopefully you are in the regular ward and not the ICU.There's a long list of things that can cause hemorrhage. They will run tests on your platelets for quality and number. They will also run bleeding time sorts of tests and probably tests to check your clotting factors. There's a complex array of clotting factors which are proteins that help your blood clot. There's also vitamins you need for your blood to clot, such as vitamin K. Also, sometimes problems with blood vessels can lead to clotting problems. They will also check for immune-mediated clotting problems. People can sometimes make antibodies against their own platelets. On the other hand, you might not be making enough platelets in the first place, perhaps if there is something going on in your bone marrow.They're probably taking some of your blood out now to run these tests. They will figure this out. Hopefully by the time you get back and read this, you will know what is going on and it will be corrected.I'm thinking it might be something like a thrombocytic purpura, which can be caused by a lot of different things, a lot of these are immune-related.Well, I hope you make it home okay.If you read this, please let us know how you are doing.We're sending you good thoughts.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 07:38 AM
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  • Hi John, Sorry you are having all the bleeding and pain. You didn't mention your age. I hope you are doing okay as I write this. Maybe you are in the ICU. Hopefully not. Hopefully you are in the regular ward and not the ICU. There's a long list of things that can cause hemorrhage. They will run tests on your platelets for quality and number. They will also run bleeding time sorts of tests and probably tests to check your clotting factors. There's a complex array of clotting factors which are proteins that help your blood clot. There's also vitamins you need for your blood to clot, such as vitamin K. Also, sometimes problems with blood vessels can lead to clotting problems. They will also check for immune-mediated clotting problems. People can sometimes make antibodies against their own platelets. On the other hand, you might not be making enough platelets in the first place, perhaps if there is something going on in your bone marrow. They're probably taking some of your blood out now to run these tests. They will figure this out. Hopefully by the time you get back and read this, you will know what is going on and it will be corrected. I'm thinking it might be something like a thrombocytic purpura, which can be caused by a lot of different things, a lot of these are immune-related. Well, I hope you make it home okay.If you read this, please let us know how you are doing.We're sending you good thoughts. thank you for all the info and support. im 21 and they did take several vials of blood so i hope they are doing the tests you mentioned. as i type this, my nose is spewing out blood and my eyes are also bleeding. ears are dripping blood and i have to use thick layers of toilet paper around my finger nails because everytime i touch something blood from underneath my nails spews out. in a lot of pain and getting small cuts from my dry skin whenever i move. i was told that i am being brought to an ICU tomorrow (dont know when) so they can monitor whats going on thank you so much for the reply, at least ill know what they will be testing for now
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 07:56 AM
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  • Or hopefully not a viral hemorrhagic fever. Have you been out of the country?
    rad-skw 1605 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 10:45 AM
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  • Or hopefully not a viral hemorrhagic fever. Have you been out of the country? yes i went to mexico, and africa for a 1 year long vacation (that i just got back from 2 weeks ago) also to the poster above the one i qouted, (elke) thank you for the info about the testing, and thank you for the support. right now i am bleeding out of all places mentioned in my first post, ive soaked 1 WHOLE roll of toilet paper in blood, i have very very thick sheets of toilet paper on my finger because whenever my fingers touch something blood drips/squirts out of my finger nails. im still waiting for my doctor to call and tell me when ill be going to an ICU ill keep you guys updated: new symptoms: loss of weightoily skin (i dont know if this is a symptom, but ive never had oily skin before and i find it weird that it happens when all this other stuff is going on)hillusinations thanks for the replys - John
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 03:29 PM
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  • Be sure and tell your doctor you were in Africa. You have hemorrhagic fever:http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/hemorrhagicfevers.html I think they will want to put you in isolation.
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 06:22 PM
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  • Be sure and tell your doctor you were in Africa. You have hemorrhagic fever:http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/hemorrhagicfevers.html I think they will want to put you in isolation. not good news.... so how will they know what type of hemorrhagic fever it is and what is the chance of survival, because i googled ''hemorrhagic fever" and it said theres a low chance of survival. kinda wondering how low? also what will happen to my house..... will it be quarantined thanks for the info guys.... i guess dont really know what to say......
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 09:28 PM
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  • not good news...... i googled "hemorrhagic fever" and it says low chance of survival, how low of a chance? how long will i be in isolation? what will happen to my house? will it be quarantined? and will i suffer thanks for the info and replys guys.... dont know what to say.......
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 09:36 PM
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  • symptoms: getting a feverjoint painpale white skinbleeding from EVERY orifice body achesdry skincoughing bloodfatigueblack spots all over my hands, feet and legs (doctor told me this was a rash)been getting weaker over the weekmuscle twitches/aches/spasimsdiarrheavomiting (as of last night)red/sore eyes (kinda hard to see, sights blurry)pain EVERYWHERE (and i mean everywhere) before i didn't mention any of these besides some of the other symptoms in my other posts, but now i realise how severe this is. hope this helps in any way (to determine what hemorrhagic fever i have), theres a few more symptoms that i forgot to mention in this post but i am to tired to continue typing
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 10:07 PM
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  • im really sorry for the tripple post but for some reason i cant edit my last post. i forgot these symptoms: loss of weightoily skin (i dont know if this is a symptom, but ive never had oily skin before and i find it weird that it happens when all this other stuff is going on)hillusinations
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 10:47 PM
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  • Hello I am so sorry you have to go through this. It indeed sounds as if you have Viral Hemorrhagic Fever. This is the website I use when the doctors can figure out whats wrong...once you review even if you do not feel this matches your symptoms there are also other lists of fevers and conditions that are most common in africa. A lot of these illness have similar symptoms. Most can be treated over time once detected promptly. Please inform your doctors at once and make sure to read the infection control section to prevent the illness from spreading. It is very important to inform your doctor of where exactly you have been so they may try to detect exactly type they are dealing with and can try to prevent it from spreading in that community. This website has always been a great help to us on our travels and hopefully it will help you as well. Things are going to be alright you just need to be treated. You are in our prayers.Viral Hemorrhagic Fever: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/vhf.htmHomepage for CDC:http://www.cdc.gov/
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 8, 2008
    • 11:21 PM
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  • I'm a little concerned that you are actively bleeding, yet are at home. I'm not your doctor, but it sounds like they need to admit you to the hospital if you are continuing to lose so much blood. The black spots might be from the hemorrhaging- sort of like tiny bruises from leaking blood vessels and capillaries.Monsterlove is right- you need to tell your doctors about your recent travels to Africa and MexicoThere are a number of viruses that cause hemorrhagic fever in at least 4 families of virus:Filoviridae: Ebola and MarburgArenaviridae: Lassa, Junin, Machupo, Sabia, and GuanaritoBunyaviridae: Rift Valley feverandFlaviviridae: Yellow FeverEach of these viruses are dependent on natural vectors such as rodents, mosquitos, and ticks. So, you might want to let your doctors know which of these critters you may have been exposed to. I'm guessing that they are running tests for all of these viruses, although they may have to send many of them out to another lab. I'm not sure which viruses correlate with the areas you traveled in, except Ebola is associated with Africa... You might want to write down the specific towns and areas you were in, both in Africa and Mexico, and bring this to your doctors.If you do have one of these, you need to be in isolation at the hospital, as these can be transmitted to others through contact with infected bodily fluids.I'm not sure why there's a delay in getting you admitted to the hospital if you are actively bleeding. It sounds like they need to make sure you are stable, which can't be done at home. But again, I'm not your doctor and so I can't say what's taking them so long.I am so sorry you are sick like this.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
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  • I just happened to read your post and I really hope you are alright, that sounds terrifying. I'll say a prayer for you.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 00:33 AM
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  • Hello I am so sorry you have to go through this. It indeed sounds as if you have Viral Hemorrhagic Fever. This is the website I use when the doctors can figure out whats wrong...once you review even if you do not feel this matches your symptoms there are also other lists of fevers and conditions that are most common in africa. A lot of these illness have similar symptoms. Most can be treated over time once detected promptly. Please inform your doctors at once and make sure to read the infection control section to prevent the illness from spreading. It is very important to inform your doctor of where exactly you have been so they may try to detect exactly type they are dealing with and can try to prevent it from spreading in that community. This website has always been a great help to us on our travels and hopefully it will help you as well. Things are going to be alright you just need to be treated. You are in our prayers. Viral Hemorrhagic Fever: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/vhf.htm Homepage for CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/ Thank you, i went over the link(s) i am going over them now and thank you very much for the support I'm a little concerned that you are actively bleeding, yet are at home. I'm not your doctor, but it sounds like they need to admit you to the hospital if you are continuing to lose so much blood. The black spots might be from the hemorrhaging- sort of like tiny bruises from leaking blood vessels and capillaries.Monsterlove is right- you need to tell your doctors about your recent travels to Africa and MexicoThere are a number of viruses that cause hemorrhagic fever in at least 4 families of virus:Filoviridae: Ebola and MarburgArenaviridae: Lassa, Junin, Machupo, Sabia, and GuanaritoBunyaviridae: Rift Valley feverandFlaviviridae: Yellow Fever Each of these viruses are dependent on natural vectors such as rodents, mosquitos, and ticks. So, you might want to let your doctors know which of these critters you may have been exposed to. I'm guessing that they are running tests for all of these viruses, although they may have to send many of them out to another lab. I'm not sure which viruses correlate with the areas you traveled in, except Ebola is associated with Africa... You might want to write down the specific towns and areas you were in, both in Africa and Mexico, and bring this to your doctors. If you do have one of these, you need to be in isolation at the hospital, as these can be transmitted to others through contact with infected bodily fluids. I'm not sure why there's a delay in getting you admitted to the hospital if you are actively bleeding. It sounds like they need to make sure you are stable, which can't be done at home. But again, I'm not your doctor and so I can't say what's taking them so long. I am so sorry you are sick like this. again i am very thankful for the support and info i called my doc and hes loaded with patients and i will be going in tomorrow and then he will decide the course of action he said i should be fine tonight as long as i try not to puke, because now i am throwing up blood. so i kinda have to hold it in again... places i went to during vacation: south africa, central africa i cant recall where i went in mexico ummmm id know if it was important but it seems like the only place i should be worried about was my trip to africa sorry if spelling is bad and stuff doesnt make sense but i am very tired/weak. ill try and update as much as possible
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 01:14 AM
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  • I'm a little concerned that you are actively bleeding, yet are at home. I'm not your doctor, but it sounds like they need to admit you to the hospital if you are continuing to lose so much blood. The black spots might be from the hemorrhaging- sort of like tiny bruises from leaking blood vessels and capillaries.Monsterlove is right- you need to tell your doctors about your recent travels to Africa and MexicoThere are a number of viruses that cause hemorrhagic fever in at least 4 families of virus:Filoviridae: Ebola and MarburgArenaviridae: Lassa, Junin, Machupo, Sabia, and GuanaritoBunyaviridae: Rift Valley feverandFlaviviridae: Yellow Fever Each of these viruses are dependent on natural vectors such as rodents, mosquitos, and ticks. So, you might want to let your doctors know which of these critters you may have been exposed to. I'm guessing that they are running tests for all of these viruses, although they may have to send many of them out to another lab. I'm not sure which viruses correlate with the areas you traveled in, except Ebola is associated with Africa... You might want to write down the specific towns and areas you were in, both in Africa and Mexico, and bring this to your doctors. If you do have one of these, you need to be in isolation at the hospital, as these can be transmitted to others through contact with infected bodily fluids. I'm not sure why there's a delay in getting you admitted to the hospital if you are actively bleeding. It sounds like they need to make sure you are stable, which can't be done at home. But again, I'm not your doctor and so I can't say what's taking them so long. I am so sorry you are sick like this. i am very thank full for the support everybody has given and info i went to mexico where i rented a cottedge near a lake for 4 months, then i went to south africa and central africa.. i also may have gone to western africe or eastern but i dont remember i know i was in south africe for 5 months, then i went to central africa for 2 months and im fairly sure i went to eastern africa for a couple of weeks, i called the doctor and he said as long as i dotn puke (because now im throwing up blood) that i should be fine for the night. tomorrow at around 2 pm i am going to a small clinic by ambulance (i dont know where the clinic is i havent been told) then after testing there i will be going into a BIO hazard isolation room (again i dont know where) basicly i am shivering going from hot to cold to freezing then my blood feels like its boiling, out of my mind with fever and feeling very weak trying my best to type properly with punctuation ect sorry if its hardc to read ill keep you guys updated edit: ill try to remember the towns/areas i was in, but its going to be toughalso no family or friends really.... care so i have no risk of infecting them and i have not been out of the house since i got back, because we went hiking and trips into the forests to see gorillas and what not so i have been exhausted, also i went swimming in mexico, i dont know if thats important or not but i heard theres some bad stuff in the water there
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 01:25 AM
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  • If things are as bad as you are describing there.. i'd not be listening to that doctor and would be ringing an ambulance to come and get me now! Please consider going to even a different hospital right now if you need to. esp if doctors dont know what is wrong with you and you are actively bleeding, weak and sick. Did they even ask you while you were in hospital if you'd been out of the country? i noticed that your nic is "am i crazy" .. so i wonder why you are using that nic? Could you or do you have some form of mental illness? If so and you are delusional to the point of imagining things like this (hallicinations?), even if that case I believe you should be in hospital. So please..either way..get yourself to a hospital who is going to do something for you.
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 01:46 AM
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  • no i thought it was funny loging in and it would say "thank you for loging in, AmIcrazy?" i have no mental illness. also i will go to another hospital soon depending on what happens. i have been with this doctor for years and trust him fully. but i will call 911 soon if he does not take any course of action edit; and by soon i mean tonight
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
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  • Hang in there. What is happening is that they don't want you back in the hospital. They are arranging for you to go into the bio-hazard place...kiddo, take your laptop so we can talk and you can keep us posted..what town are you in right now? I think you are funny, too...visualize very strong...you see yourself plugging up your "holes" with clotting agent (create what it looks like in your mind)...the power is in your brain so use it..keep doing that like every hour...take deep breaths, close your eyes, breathe deeply and then visualize...it will help the healing process...any magic tokins that you latched onto may also have some force, so take them along...laptop laptop....all the regulars here will be your family and help you through this...
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
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  • would they really let me bring a laptop to a bio-hazard room? sounds like a good idea for me. thank you for the support, im going to follow your advice because bad thoughts can be... bad :o ill keep you guys updated
    AmICrazy? 20 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 06:20 AM
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  • well, why not...you can't just sit there and do nothing...you just tell them you are bringing your laptop...if they give you any trouble, ask to speak to the boss...if he gives you any trouble, ask to speak to his boss...or sometimes, just ask nicely and say it will be the only way for you to communicate with your family (only if you can connect there)...or tell them you are writing a book and need it...you didn't say where you are...
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
    • 06:26 AM
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  • umm if they think someone is that much of a threat.. i really cant imagine them sending a person home!!!, where that person then may end up in contact with the mail man or any stranger who comes to the door!, while they sorted themselves out, arranging stuff. If they do take him to a bio-hazzard place and he takes his computer.. they will probably not allow the computer to leave later, due to possible contamination. ........... So if you are going to take it.. make sure you ask them if it will be later viewed as contaminated and need to be destroyed umm thou i guess if you are that much of a hazzard, your whole home would be viewed as contaminated anyway
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • February 9, 2008
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