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  • Posted By: need_help
  • March 17, 2007
  • 04:00 PM

Hi! I am 14 and need your assistance. I have already posted this as an unregistered user. Now I have registered to make life easier for myself. I have been experiencing blackouts for quite some time now. About six months ago when I use have frequent blackouts, I had my heart and brain checked. There were no abnormalities. Since I also have nasal congestion problems and throat problems, the doctor prescribed CEFSPAN (Cefixime U.S.P 400mg), sedative/hypnotic medication, and PROCHLORPERAZINE MALEATE 5 mg. After the most recent blackout six months ago, I have been fine until today. I was using the toilet and after getting up, I felt a pinching sensation in my eyes, and then came the blackout. I woke up on my own, I don't know after how long, with bruises from the fall. Please assist as this condition seems to get the best of me. Thanks in advance.

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  • Hello, I have two daughters, one is 17 and the other is 14. The 17 year old had black outs when she was your age. The doctor said that it is normal at this age because of the many changes in your body. I do actually trust the doctor that told me this, and sure enough, after about a year she never had them again. All of her blackouts were when she first got up---went to the bathroom, etc. She started lying in bed a little longer before she got up so that she didn't end up hitting the floor. :0Hope that you start doing better soon. Maybe speak with your doctor again if it keeps happening.annlynn
    Annlynn 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • Ms. Annlynn, Thank you for your prompt response. You said that your doctor told you it was normal for kids my age to have blackouts. I don't know if I have a year to give into this. I don't know that if this is some sort of disease, that if left untreated will get worst. My parents are really scared, and I have been assigned a watch dog. It's kinda hard with some one watching over you all the time. Did your daughter was ever diagonsed for any illness? Did she take any medications to step out of it? Any information will be helpful. Any other recommendations will be highly appreciated. Thanks again.
    need_help 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • It might be allergies. Mold, chemicals (in the bathroom), polyester, new carpet, furniture,etc can do this.Check for Chemical Sensitivities. People with this problem will hit the floor when exposed to fragrance and other allergens. Soap, shampoos, toothpaste can do this.Best thing I can recommend is to read on Ray Francis book "Never Be Sick Again"- he deals with it and how to remedy it. Also NAET works better than regular allergy tests and it will actually reverse the allergies.Read the book- it will tell you a lot of things that you can do to improve your health. It has a lot to do with diet, vaccines, chemical exposure, toxins in the food.Take Care.Eatafruit78.
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  • Do you feel dizzy or anything beforehand? You could be hypoglycemic (chronic low blood sugar.) If so, make sure you eat small but frequent meals, and keep a sucking candy or packet of crackers with you at all times in case you feel faint. Otherwise, I would see a doctor about it. It could be a form of seizures.
    deadlysauce 67 Replies Flag this Response
  • Do you feel dizzy or anything beforehand? You could be hypoglycemic (chronic low blood sugar.) If so, make sure you eat small but frequent meals, and keep a sucking candy or packet of crackers with you at all times in case you feel faint. Otherwise, I would see a doctor about it. It could be a form of seizures. I have already consulted with a doctor, but no help. I don't feel dizzy, but do feel a pinching sensation in my eyes right before the blackout. Thanks for the tip! I will check it out.
    need_help 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • No honey, I don't think that you should wait a minute longer...My daughter didn't have near the amount of black outs that you must be having. SHe only blacked out three times. The doctor said that it was because at the age her hormones were kicking in and trying to get themselves straightened out....it's just a 'hormainal thing'. She only blacked out in the morning when she got up. Your case sounds much more severe. Get you parents to take you to another doctor. Someone should be doing a CAT scan and MRI for you. Bloodwork, too. One good thing I can tell you is that teenagers are remarkably resilient. You are young and your bady is strong. Keep on going to the doctors and make them help you out. :)
    Annlynn 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • Take a deep breath and relax, but keep an eye on her. What she is probably experiencing is called vagaling. We each have a long nerve that runs down the length of our bodies called the vagus nerve. Stimulation of this nerve can cause faining or near fainting spells, nausea, and profuse sweating. The big clue is that it happens when she is on the toilet. Straining on the toilet for a bowel movement or urination can stimulate the vagus nerve as can vomiting or even stress. The greatest risk with vagaling is the fall from the toilet or standing.Good Luck, Hun
    emsbabydoll 73 Replies Flag this Response
  • No honey, I don't think that you should wait a minute longer...My daughter didn't have near the amount of black outs that you must be having. SHe only blacked out three times. The doctor said that it was because at the age her hormones were kicking in and trying to get themselves straightened out....it's just a 'hormainal thing'. She only blacked out in the morning when she got up. Your case sounds much more severe. Get you parents to take you to another doctor. Someone should be doing a CAT scan and MRI for you. Bloodwork, too. One good thing I can tell you is that teenagers are remarkably resilient. You are young and your bady is strong. Keep on going to the doctors and make them help you out. :) I went to a doctor yesterday. I have an MRI scheduled. Let's pray for the best. Thanks,
    need_help 3 Replies Flag this Response
  • Have them check your iron. My niece had that (she was 20 though) and it turned out that she was anemic. Many doctors don't know how to read blood work ups in that there are false positives etc...
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  • :eek: I'm 36 years old and just now started having these blackouts at work.I've had 2 since Nov and they wont let me come back to work until they figure out what is wrong with me because I do industrial painting witch most of the time I'm off the ground 20 to 100 feet in the air.The doctors have done every test I think that they can do but nobody knows anything!My wife and I were thinking it could be that I never eat breakfast and drink alot of caffine on my way to work but the doctors just dont want to here that because then it would be too simple to fix.So I figured I would try to get some input on my own and try to help these so called pros some help.....:confused:
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  • :eek: I'm 36 years old and just now started having these blackouts at work.I've had 2 since Nov and they wont let me come back to work until they figure out what is wrong with me because I do industrial painting witch most of the time I'm off the ground 20 to 100 feet in the air.The doctors have done every test I think that they can do but nobody knows anything!My wife and I were thinking it could be that I never eat breakfast and drink alot of caffine on my way to work but the doctors just dont want to here that because then it would be too simple to fix.So I figured I would try to get some input on my own and try to help these so called pros some help.....:confused:Let me just say NAET.comRun a search for NAET on this message board.It took me like 2 months of googling all my baffling symptoms non-stop to find out about NAET. It paid off.Best.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies Flag this Response
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  • :eek: I'm 36 years old and just now started having these blackouts at work.I've had 2 since Nov and they wont let me come back to work until they figure out what is wrong with me because I do industrial painting witch most of the time I'm off the ground 20 to 100 feet in the air.The doctors have done every test I think that they can do but nobody knows anything!My wife and I were thinking it could be that I never eat breakfast and drink alot of caffine on my way to work but the doctors just dont want to here that because then it would be too simple to fix.So I figured I would try to get some input on my own and try to help these so called pros some help.....:confused:Let me just say NAET.comRun a search for NAET on this message board.It took me like 2 months of googling all my baffling symptoms non-stop to find out about NAET. It paid off.Best.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies Flag this Response
  • I blacked out for no reason at school back in December, my instructor called the paramedics and they took me to the ER where they could find nothing wrong. So I was sent to a cardiologist and they did a tilt table test. Which they attempted to make me pass out, it suceeded. They diagnosed me with Neurocardiogenic syncope. It basically is a reflex problem between the brain and the heart. What they told me is my brain sends the wrong message to my heart and it tells the heart to send less blood, which makes it work harder and then the body can't handle it and syncope occurs. They said my blood pressure bottoms out to about 30 and then I pass out. I get no warning signs, I apparently told my friend I was dizzy seconds before I passed out in class, but I don't remember it and I obviosuly have no time to react to it. And I also told the cardiologist during the test I was dizzy, but again I do not remember it. They put me on Metoprolol which they said should keep my blood pressure stable. They also thought I might be having seizures.
    ElizabethJ526 4 Replies Flag this Response
  • I wonder if it could also be heart related, even though you said you were checked by a cardiologist. Did you ever have a Halter Monitor put on? This is usually a 24 hour thing, but it can be 3 months + if the situation calls for it. Basically the device records your heart functioning. You might also want to ask for an "event monitor" which is similar, but you push a button when the episode happens. Fainting can be caused by low blood pressure. My blood pressure is normal, however when I'm very relaxed and get up quickly, I will get very lightheaded. If someone had low blood pressure and got up quickly, theirs might lower to the point where fainting would occur. Also, you may want to see a neurologist to see if there is some kind of brain "malfunction" involved.
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  • Fainting might occur due to a drop in the blood presureA drop in the blood presure might happen due to a malfunction.A malfunction in the nervous system can be triggered by many events.The important thing is to correct the malfunction, not to try to fight it with drugs.I personally suffer of drops of blood pressure and drop of temperature which almost make me faint when exposed to polyester. My brain is now being coached not to react to polyester ( and other triggers) as an enemy to which I am to react with more blood in my heart, palpitations, or fainting.**There is certainly a malfuction, but one ought to find the trigger.The nervous system responses to harmless and not so harmless elements in the environment can be tracked and evaluated by the use of Jaffe Mellor Technique and Nambudripad's Technique.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies Flag this Response
  • This is a 14 year old kid. He should have a proper medical evaluation before looking into alternative therapy/NAET. Allergies are one thing, but a heart defect is another entirely.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies Flag this Response
  • This is a 14 year old kid. He should have a proper medical evaluation before looking into alternative therapy/NAET. Allergies are one thing, but a heart defect is another entirely.I encourage this young poster to pursue traditional evaluations and follow up- but since he had already been checked and nothing has been found- I don't understand why something else can't be used to heal and not just suppress symptoms.Allergies can produce stroke, chemical hepatitis and even hallucinations, even cysts. So I don't think we are one the same page. Allergies are not stuffy nose and red rash, that's just like the stereotypical allergic reaction.Allergies destroy normal chemical functions. It messes up with your hormones, causes inflammation, and even altered the anatomy. There is nothing wrong with trying NAET during and after a regular medical evaluation. NAET does not use drugs, herbs, needles, machines,fragrance, oils, crystals, nada. It is completely non-invasive.
    Eatafruit78 960 Replies Flag this Response
  • Im not saying he shouldn't try alternative therapy, just that he really should have a series of tests before giving up hope in traditional medicine. Doctors seem to order basic tests for everyone regardless of their symptoms and then stop. It's not enough really- look at the topic on B12 deficency for example. I do agree with your approach though- western medicine is all about medications and side effects. Eastern medicine on the other hand, is far more of a body-soul type thing (not unlike many of the religions there) and what do you know-it works just as well if not better.
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  • I'm reading these posts, and I am a mom of a 14 year old who just started her monthly cycle about 4 months ago. She had her first fainting/black out a few days before she started for the first time ever. I was worried and took her to the doctor. Our doctor said the same thing about it being normal, don't get up too fast, etc. Well ... today, mid afternoon after being up, moving around, and even a trip across town to a baseball game and then to the grocery store, we are standing in line and she said she felt dizzy, started sweating, and said she felt like she was going to pass out. It got worse, while holding on to me she said she couldn't see at all. Everything was black. I left my groceries and went and had her sit down but she was totally and completely blind for about 2 minutes. WHAT THE HECK??? I brought her home and she has been sleeping for 2 hours. There was no shaking, she had eaten, we had been up about 5-6 hours, BUT today is the first day of her monthly cycle again. Could this be related? Do I take her back for some actual testing ... she NEVER had problems until 4 months ago. This time the blindness really really worried me. Any advice??One very worried mom!
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