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Black Mold Poisoning? Exhaustion? Neither?

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  • Posted By: bouncingsquares
  • August 24, 2010
  • 07:16 PM

I am a 24 year old woman. I work at a restaurant on a college campus. I started working there last August. One night, about a month after I started working there, I started to get terrible stomach pains and nausea. It didn't go any farther than that, so I went home, and I ended up being fine. About two weeks later (again at night) it happened again. This time I vomited, and I ended up leaving work early. It happened two more times, and I didn't vomit at work, but once I got home, I did. I believe the last time it happened was in November. All through the spring semester, I was fine. I didn't work in the summer. I just returned to work a week ago, and this past Friday night, it happened again.

This time was worse than ever before. I felt sick/stomach pain for about an hour before I finally vomited. Once I did vomit, I felt fine for about thirty minutes and was able to go back to my work. But after that, I ended up having to run back to the bathroom. I was sitting on the floor next to the toilet, and every time I stood up, I felt dizzy. I was sweating, and my manager said she thought I had a fever, though we didn't have a thermometer to take my temperature. As soon as I got out of the building, I felt 100 times better, but I still felt slightly nauseous for the next two days.

It only happens at night (always around 8-9pm), and it only happens at work. So far, it has only happened in the late summer/early fall. The building is very old and connects to the dining hall, the student union, a dormitory, a game room, the post office...it's a huge plaza-type thing that all shares a single ventilation system, which is why I think it could be mold or some other allergen.

It's not connected with what I'm eating or drinking; I've changed that in an effort to stop it. It also doesn't seem to be connected to how hard I'm working. It has happened on a 12 hour shift, but it has also happened on a 3 hour shift. But one of my coworkers (who is a senior in nursing school) says that might not make any difference because there is one other thing - I have "chronic mono." I know there's a lot of controversy over whether or not that exists, but I went to two different doctors who told me the same thing. Regardless, I have a condition that causes phases where I'm tired nearly all the time, so I could easily get exhausted on a three-hour shift, and my co-worker thinks that's exactly what's happening.

I can't go to the doctor for at least another month because I don't have insurance, and I won't be able to afford it until then. Any thoughts until then?

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  • sounds like gallbladder problems. Maybe not stones but an underactive gallbladder.
    Tara30 4 Replies
    • August 24, 2010
    • 11:49 PM
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  • How long have you had the "chronic mono" for? Are you sure you havent got CFIDS? those with CFIDS not only having mono like symptoms or something triggered by mono.. they also get things like sensitivities to things, chemicals, molds etc.
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • August 25, 2010
    • 05:02 PM
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  • How long have you had the "chronic mono" for? Are you sure you havent got CFIDS? those with CFIDS not only having mono like symptoms or something triggered by mono.. they also get things like sensitivities to things, chemicals, molds etc.I've had it for three years. No, I'm not sure of anything. I'm not a doctor, and like I said, two different doctors told me the same thing. I had mono originally, for sure, five years ago. Then three years ago, I was just tired ALL of the time. I thought it was anemia or something else, but the tests for that, diabetes, etc, came out normal. My doctor literally said to me, "I don't believe that chronic mono exists, but I do believe that you have it" because the blood tests said I did. I waited about a month, and I still wasn't feeling better even though I was getting plenty of rest, and I went to a different doctor. I didn't tell her the previous doctor's theory, and she told me, "you've got chronic mono." So that's all I have to go on. I asked the second one if she thought it could be chronic fatigue, and she said no because that wouldn't show up like mono in the tests.
    bouncingsquares 2 Replies
    • August 26, 2010
    • 04:42 AM
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  • sounds like gallbladder problems. Maybe not stones but an underactive gallbladder.I looked up the symptoms of that, and I do have more symptoms of that than of black mold poisoning. However, the pain isn't under my right ribcage, and I do get back pain, but it's in the center of my back, not between my shoulder blades. And whatever this problem is, is definitely linked to work. I had four days off, and while I didn't feel good, I felt well enough to continue with my daily routine. Tonight I went back to work, and it was just a repeat of Friday night. And once again, as soon as I got in my car, I felt fine, and I still do. I read that gallbladder attacks were linked to eating fatty foods, which I made sure not to do today. I didn't see anything about them being stress related, but if they are, then I'd say that's probably what it is.
    bouncingsquares 2 Replies
    • August 26, 2010
    • 04:47 AM
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  • I asked the second one if she thought it could be chronic fatigue, and she said no because that wouldn't show up like mono in the tests. They have that wrong.. many who have CFIDS will tell you they get reincurring (reactivating viruses). Mono is strongly related to it. This is quite common issue to CFIDS. The thing is.. it may not be just mono reactiving.. but also other viruses at same time too eg HHV-A. Whatever causes CFIDS, it does affect our immune systems and hence we end up with the reactiving virus issues. Very Recent studies (the postive study to the findings late last year, only came out last week), points to that most who have CFIDS, the postive findings are showing between 86.5-95% are infected with mouse viruses XMRV and Mouse Leukemia Viruses. (dont panic.. they dont know if it can do that in humans yet)This newly found virus may be weakening our immune systems and hence then allowing other viruses we have to keep replicating.. hence why some of us have issues like EBV reactiving. http://www.cdc.gov/xmrv/ I strongly suggest once public tests are available (the tests are currently being worked on) to get yourself tested for the XMRV/MLVs so see if that is what is weakening your system (and hence then allowing the mono to keep flaring) Also cause there is so much controversy around CFS, i suggest to stick to just saying you have reincurring mono (many doctors are biased when it comes to CFS). But at the same time, learn more about CFS/ME so you can have more of an idea what kind of things you could be trying to help esp related to your immune system. Also be aware that is is easy to worsen this condition and end up with more symptoms. If you can find a CFS specialist thou, I suggest to see him/her. http://wwcoco.com/cfids/bernesx.html (statistics based on studies done)...by that 70-85% of those who have CFS/ME get recurrent illnesses and infections Also the http://aboutmecfs.org/ site gives a lot of info and keeps up with what is happening scientifically on all this. I also suggest to go to the forum there and ask who else has reactiving mono/EBV and what their specialists are giving them for that issue. (as im assuming your doctor may not be doing a thing to help as she's probably at a loss due to not coming across this issue before). You have a very uncommon issue that most doctors will not know what to do about and hence you will often need to take in the info on what to do about it, to your doctors yourself on meds etc (that is unless you can access a Specialist who is familiar with this kind of issue as many CFS/ME ones are.. good ones of those are often too far and few between unfortunately). best luck ps some get CFS/ME triggered off by black mold... so if you are sensitive to it, you need to COMPLETELY AVOID it
    taniaaust1 2267 Replies
    • August 26, 2010
    • 06:14 AM
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  • try to keep a diary that includes what you eat--it could be gallbladder but what I was thinking that it could be some type of exhaust. Maybe the stove has a minor leak; maybe there's a carbon monoxide problem leak or heavy trucks/auto exhaust area...maybe...you could borrow a carbon monoxide detector and plug it in at various locations where you work and check out the readings for yourself. Go over to the stove and see if all the pilot lights are on. Otherwise, it could be your mono and/or gallbladder..could you be pregnant?
    Monsterlove 2921 Replies
    • August 27, 2010
    • 05:15 AM
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  • try to keep a diary that includes what you eat--it could be gallbladder but what I was thinking that it could be some type of exhaust. Maybe the stove has a minor leak; maybe there's a carbon monoxide problem leak or heavy trucks/auto exhaust area...maybe...you could borrow a carbon monoxide detector and plug it in at various locations where you work and check out the readings for yourself. Go over to the stove and see if all the pilot lights are on. Otherwise, it could be your mono and/or gallbladder..could you be pregnant?I was just thinking also that maybe she could be pregnant, I had all these symptoms while I as on Birth control. I ended up being pregnant.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 27, 2010
    • 08:09 PM
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