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anxiety upon waking, feeling unrefreshed, tired...help!

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  • Posted By: mr. moore
  • August 25, 2009
  • 03:12 AM

i have had this since about May now. i mean i've had terrible sleep for as long as i can remember. (after thinking about this i realized 2 things in my life happened when my sleep started to worsen: having to get up early for high school, and my tonsils being removed, though i'm stating this cause i'm thinking about every cause) but it's gotten worse since then, as i had a huge fight with my parents then and my sleep got worse. basically i have this very unrefreshing sleep combined with anxiety and an overall unrefreshing, and waking up, feeling terribly anxious like i was just fighting a war last night, not very good sleep that leaves me completely half awake the entire day, anxious i'll get in crash, anxious about unpredictable things happening (my reaction time and memory are shot) and everything seems unreal. (i'd like to say i don't think it's part of some mental health thing, as i had the same problem when i was given anxiety meds during the day or at night. why just last week i was driving in a daze, on a dark stormy day, and decided i would ride my bike. next thing i know, i'm ducking in a forrested area off the bike path, wondering why i did this...it's like my brain is so deprived of sleep i'm forgetting how to have common sense.

i've read EXTENSIVELY on sleep disorders, mental health, and overall health. i eat relatvely healthy and excersize every other day. i wake up at 9 ish and get sleepy around midnight, which is amazing considering i used to go to bed at 3 to 4 am last year. i'm a 20 year old male who is on the verge of a breakdown, as i yearn for sleep but it isn't coming. i'm in physically very good health, besides having low blood pressure (which is good i think) and the anxiety i have that comes with poor reaction time and how able and ready i am for the world, but am too sluggish and tired all the time to respond. please, i know there are people suffering like me. this is a 24/7 365 day a year torment for me, i enjoy very little being in this state of mind, and constantly fear not only for my safety, but the other people driving next to me, how i am having to redo my elementary algebra class a 3rd time, despite knowing full well if i were more awake i would of aced it and moved on with my life, knowing i could have more relationships, be more happy and in general not rely on the internet to help me, as my doctor has labeled my insomnia induced hypochondria...as such (and reminding me to get back on anti depressant meds, which made me slightly more zombified, and a therapist that is no longer of help as i am too tired to converse or to actually know what i'm really thinking)

i hope this wasn't too long. thanks. (i'm going for a second sleep study next week but was hoping i could eliminate some of what i thought was wrong with me)

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  • i have had this since about May now. i mean i've had terrible sleep for as long as i can remember. (after thinking about this i realized 2 things in my life happened when my sleep started to worsen: having to get up early for high school, and my tonsils being removed, though i'm stating this cause i'm thinking about every cause) but it's gotten worse since then, as i had a huge fight with my parents then and my sleep got worse. basically i have this very unrefreshing sleep combined with anxiety and an overall unrefreshing, and waking up, feeling terribly anxious like i was just fighting a war last night, not very good sleep that leaves me completely half awake the entire day, anxious i'll get in crash, anxious about unpredictable things happening (my reaction time and memory are shot) and everything seems unreal. (i'd like to say i don't think it's part of some mental health thing, as i had the same problem when i was given anxiety meds during the day or at night. why just last week i was driving in a daze, on a dark stormy day, and decided i would ride my bike. next thing i know, i'm ducking in a forrested area off the bike path, wondering why i did this...it's like my brain is so deprived of sleep i'm forgetting how to have common sense. i've read EXTENSIVELY on sleep disorders, mental health, and overall health. i eat relatvely healthy and excersize every other day. i wake up at 9 ish and get sleepy around midnight, which is amazing considering i used to go to bed at 3 to 4 am last year. i'm a 20 year old male who is on the verge of a breakdown, as i yearn for sleep but it isn't coming. i'm in physically very good health, besides having low blood pressure (which is good i think) and the anxiety i have that comes with poor reaction time and how able and ready i am for the world, but am too sluggish and tired all the time to respond. please, i know there are people suffering like me. this is a 24/7 365 day a year torment for me, i enjoy very little being in this state of mind, and constantly fear not only for my safety, but the other people driving next to me, how i am having to redo my elementary algebra class a 3rd time, despite knowing full well if i were more awake i would of aced it and moved on with my life, knowing i could have more relationships, be more happy and in general not rely on the internet to help me, as my doctor has labeled my insomnia induced hypochondria...as such (and reminding me to get back on anti depressant meds, which made me slightly more zombified, and a therapist that is no longer of help as i am too tired to converse or to actually know what i'm really thinking)i hope this wasn't too long. thanks. (i'm going for a second sleep study next week but was hoping i could eliminate some of what i thought was wrong with me)I had a similar symptoms to your over the last two years and my first thought was that I have sleep apnea as my nose shut closed as soon as I put my head on the pillow. I was getting up tired and going to bed tired until I strted to get up in teh mornings with chest pain. I visited my neourologist who suspected that I have an anxiety and when I read about it I found all the writtem symptoms matched mine. I developed this anxiety due to stress and lack of sleep. I have been on ciprlex for anxiety fo rthe last 8-9 months I feel much better, also try get some relaxation excercise and to regain soem of your strength try having some B Vitamins as I found them to be energy boosters.Good luck Leo
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 26, 2009
    • 08:42 AM
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  • my exact feelings..... im in a battle in my sleep with chess pains.. then tired when i wake grrrrrrrrrr it gets so old
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 12, 2010
    • 01:52 AM
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  • my exact feelings..... im in a battle in my sleep with chess pains.. then tired when i wake grrrrrrrrrr it gets so oldI am a medical transcriptionist and have worked for a sleep specialist for the past six years. You really NEED to see a doctor who is a sleep specialist. Most doctors do not get ANY medical training regarding sleep/sleep disorders (this is directly from my doctor) unless they specifically study it. Many of your symptoms could be from sleep apnea - even mild sleep apnea - and not everyone has the "classic" signs - snoring, overweight, etc. Even if you do not have sleep apnea, a sleep specialist can help you regarding what IS causing your non-refreshing sleep and daytime problems. Searching on the internet is not always a good idea as there is a lot of misinformation out there.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 6, 2010
    • 06:55 PM
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  • I am a medical transcriptionist and have worked for a sleep specialist for the past six years. You really NEED to see a doctor who is a sleep specialist. Most doctors do not get ANY medical training regarding sleep/sleep disorders (this is directly from my doctor) unless they specifically study it. Many of your symptoms could be from sleep apnea - even mild sleep apnea - and not everyone has the "classic" signs - snoring, overweight, etc. Even if you do not have sleep apnea, a sleep specialist can help you regarding what IS causing your non-refreshing sleep and daytime problems. Searching on the internet is not always a good idea as there is a lot of misinformation out there. Find a sleep clinic associated with a good medical center. There are a lot of doctors that say they handle sleep issues, but find a specialist that understands your whole body, such as an internist that specialized in sleep disorders; instead of an ENT that treats sleep disorders because of snoring and such. One of the best resources in the world for sleep disorders is Stanford University Medical center. Find a doctor that has studied there. Ask about NARCOLEPSY even if you suspect or have sleep apnea. They are not related conditions, yet both can cause the body to wear down due to lack of restorative sleep. Don't give up until you feel better, and don't always believe it when doctors tell you its all in your head, or that you are depressed if you don't believe that to be true. Good luck.
    stayhopefull 2 Replies
    • October 7, 2010
    • 03:48 AM
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  • Chronic stress can certainly cause these sorts of issues. If specific sleep disorders, like sleep apnea, have been ruled out you may want to tackle it as a cortisol issue. Cortisol should be elevated in the morning and gradually decrease throughout the day. But with improper diet and consistent stress, you can wind up with higher cortisol at night, which makes you feel "tired and wired"- tired but unable to sleep. You just toss and turn, then finally fall asleep and wake up groggy and tired, drag through the day until you catch that "second wind" in the evening, and once again you are unable to sleep. Stress isn't an easy thing to eliminate, obviously. If it were me, I would start my omitting not only gluten, but grains of any kind, because of their effects on hormones (check out www.robbwolf.com- his book "the paleo solution" is a great resource for diet issues and he gives other resources on his site). I'd also supplement with Rhodiola and other adaptogens which can help your body deal with excess cortisol (www.charlespoliquin.com is a good resource for this. Check out the supplements for cortisol issues). Magnesium could also be very beneficial as it is necessary to help your muscles and vascular system relax (I think I've got that right!) and it promotes good sleep. Most people are magnesium deficient because of our modern diet- stick with chelated magnesium or any form that ends with -ate. For example, don't get magnesium oxide. I really like Natural Calm, which is an effervescent magnesium citrate drink which I have in the evenings and it really puts me to sleep. I haven't yet read it, but I've heard that the book "Lights Out" is an invaluable resource for attaining better sleep. I hope this gives you something to go on! Good luck!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 7, 2010
    • 03:25 PM
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  • I suffer this as a symptom of postural tachycardia syndrome.
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